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  • Re: RISC OS Direct 5.31 upgrade with Wifi and Web Browser

    From Harriet Bazley@21:1/5 to A Rawnsley on Fri Oct 25 01:59:50 2024
    On 24 Oct 2024 as I do recall,
    A Rawnsley wrote:


    RISC OS Developments is pleased to announce the release of RISC OS Direct 5.31, complete with wifi and a JavaScript/CSS web browser to deliver what
    we believe to be the best possible experience of RISC OS 5 on Raspberry Pi
    4 and below.


    I went through all the download/upgrade disc image etc. business, but
    obviously didn't read carefully enough, as I don't have a Raspberry Pi but
    an ARMX6....

    My desktop has been completely changed, including a WiFi icon for the WiFi
    that I presumably don't have the hardware to acess, but the displayed
    version of RISC OS still reads 5.29, presumably as a result of the error
    about something or other 4te not being found.

    The only files from !Boot that got saved in "Direct Backups" are
    MimeMap, PreDesktop and an Internet directory, so all my Look at/Run
    list got wiped somehow. Fortunately I have a manual backup of
    Boot:Choices from which to try to reconstruct it.


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  • From Jean-Michel@21:1/5 to Harriet Bazley on Fri Oct 25 10:33:16 2024
    In message <b1321eb55b.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
    Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

    On 24 Oct 2024 as I do recall,
    A Rawnsley wrote:


    RISC OS Developments is pleased to announce the release of RISC OS Direct
    5.31, complete with wifi and a JavaScript/CSS web browser to deliver what
    we believe to be the best possible experience of RISC OS 5 on Raspberry Pi >> 4 and below.


    I went through all the download/upgrade disc image etc. business, but obviously didn't read carefully enough, as I don't have a Raspberry Pi but
    an ARMX6....

    My desktop has been completely changed, including a WiFi icon for the WiFi that I presumably don't have the hardware to acess,
    To not have the WIFI icon you must use !Configure/!NetWorks: Legacy option
    The ARMX6 has the hardware to connect via WIFI, it just needs an antenna,
    I tried it and it works.

    but the displayed version of RISC OS still reads 5.29, presumably as a >result of the error about something or other 4te not being found.
    In the upgrade zip folder (provided by Rcomp) there is a !System folder
    that you should not forget to install.

    The only files from !Boot that got saved in "Direct Backups" are
    MimeMap, PreDesktop and an Internet directory, so all my Look at/Run
    list got wiped somehow. Fortunately I have a manual backup of
    Boot:Choices from which to try to reconstruct it.




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    Jean-Michel

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  • From Paul Sprangers@21:1/5 to Harriet Bazley on Fri Oct 25 18:00:40 2024
    In article <b1321eb55b.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
    Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

    WiFi that I presumably don't have the hardware to acess

    I wouldn't bother too much about not having WiFi. Although it may be a
    great achievement that WiFi is now working with RISC OS, I nevertheless
    never use it, because of the huge difference in speed compared to ethernet.

    Actually, I was hoping for a new version of Iris in this distribution, now
    that it seems to be generally released. Unfortunately, it's still the same version that I use since nearly a year - so we still can't copy and paste
    text within it.

    Paul

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  • From Harriet Bazley@21:1/5 to Jean-Michel on Fri Oct 25 19:49:53 2024
    On 25 Oct 2024 as I do recall,
    Jean-Michel wrote:

    In message <b1321eb55b.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
    Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

    [snip]


    but the displayed version of RISC OS still reads 5.29, presumably as a >result of the error about something or other 4te not being found.
    In the upgrade zip folder (provided by Rcomp) there is a !System folder
    that you should not forget to install.

    Not in this case, because I got the Raspberry Pi version by mistake....

    Although the archive does contain an upgrade !Boot that seems to have a
    new !System inside it - I think the installer was simply looking for OS
    files that don't exist on the !Boot structure supplied with this
    hardware.

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  • From Harriet Bazley@21:1/5 to Paul Sprangers on Fri Oct 25 19:46:21 2024
    On 25 Oct 2024 as I do recall,
    Paul Sprangers wrote:

    In article <b1321eb55b.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
    Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

    WiFi that I presumably don't have the hardware to acess

    I wouldn't bother too much about not having WiFi. Although it may be a
    great achievement that WiFi is now working with RISC OS, I nevertheless
    never use it, because of the huge difference in speed compared to ethernet.

    It looks as if the ARMX6 actually does include WiFi hardware on the
    circuit board - https://www.svrsig.org/images/Page35.htm

    On a machine that is already attached to an Ethernet cable it isn't of
    any practical use, of course. And as Jean-Michel says, you presumably
    need some kind of receiving aerial.


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  • From Harriet Bazley@21:1/5 to Harriet Bazley on Mon Oct 28 05:17:02 2024
    On 25 Oct 2024 as I do recall,
    Harriet Bazley wrote:

    On 24 Oct 2024 as I do recall,
    A Rawnsley wrote:


    RISC OS Developments is pleased to announce the release of RISC OS Direct 5.31, complete with wifi and a JavaScript/CSS web browser to deliver what we believe to be the best possible experience of RISC OS 5 on Raspberry Pi 4 and below.


    I went through all the download/upgrade disc image etc. business, but obviously didn't read carefully enough, as I don't have a Raspberry Pi but
    an ARMX6....

    I have now applied what I think is the correct upgrade for the ARMX6,
    which is reporting itself as having RISC OS 5.31 of 21 July 2024, and
    the new NetworkManager. However, one very noticeable change is that it
    takes 30 seconds to negotiate DHCP in the pre-desktop sequence and then
    spends another 15 seconds or so displaying the new banner before the
    desktop is usable, which is definitely much longer than before; the
    original introduction of DHCP slowed things down a good deal, but not to anything like this extent. Is this normal, or is it an indication that
    it is looking for files it can't find and then eventually timing-out?


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