• Re: Have the newsgroups all gone quiet?

    From Dave@21:1/5 to Richard Porter on Thu Oct 13 12:06:38 2022
    In article <e94faf365a.news@user.minijem.plus.com>,
    Richard Porter <ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:
    Could someone using news.plus.net (or otherwise) confirm that this is
    getting through.

    I've been getting connection failures from the server and haven't
    received any articles since 8th October.

    Yes, it came through okay Richard.

    News.Individual.NET is the service I use for the comp.sys.acorn newsgroups.

    Dave

    News has been very quiet in recent times.

    From the beginning of August to now (13/10/22) I've had...

    news.eternal-september.org
    --------------------------
    alt.comp.software.firefox 336
    alt.comp.software.thunderbird 429

    News.Individual.NET
    -------------------
    comp.sys.acorn.announce 9
    comp.sys.acorn.apps 20
    comp.sys.acorn.hardware 2
    comp.sys.acorn.misc 29
    comp.sys.acorn.networking 0
    comp.sys.acorn.programmer 1

    Dave

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    Dave Triffid

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Richard Porter on Thu Oct 13 11:29:22 2022
    In message <e94faf365a.news@user.minijem.plus.com>
    Richard Porter <ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:

    Could someone using news.plus.net (or otherwise) confirm that this is
    getting through.

    I've been getting connection failures from the server and haven't received any articles since 8th October.

    Received here OK.

    news.plus.net is an alias to the giganews servers (i.e. not part of
    PlusNet)

    --
    Chris Hughes

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  • From Richard Porter@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 13 11:19:15 2022
    Could someone using news.plus.net (or otherwise) confirm that this is
    getting through.

    I've been getting connection failures from the server and haven't received
    any articles since 8th October.

    --
    Richard Porter

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 13 13:04:11 2022
    In article <5a36b3a663dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk>
    wrote:
    In article <e94faf365a.news@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter
    <ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:
    Could someone using news.plus.net (or otherwise) confirm that this is getting through.

    I've been getting connection failures from the server and haven't
    received any articles since 8th October.

    Yes, it came through okay Richard.

    News.Individual.NET is the service I use for the comp.sys.acorn
    newsgroups.


    News has been very quiet in recent times.

    I've noticed here how little traffic there has been lately. All quiet on
    the western front.

    --
    Chris Newman

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  • From SG nws@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Thu Oct 13 19:19:16 2022
    Chris Newman wrote:
    I've noticed here how little traffic there has been lately.

    The majority of comms. has moved to
    https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/

    --
    Stewart Goldwater

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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to SG nws on Thu Oct 13 20:42:45 2022
    In article <mpro.rjpew40003yf506vk.nwsgrp@ntlworld.com>,
    SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    Chris Newman wrote:
    I've noticed here how little traffic there has been lately.

    The majority of comms. has moved to
    https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/

    How unfortunate, such a time wasting blob to wade through. :-(

    Dave

    Yes, I know, I've been subscribed to it for years, but I only visit when I really have to.

    D.

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    Dave Triffid

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  • From Harriet Bazley@21:1/5 to Dave on Thu Oct 13 21:17:36 2022
    On 13 Oct 2022 as I do recall,
    Dave wrote:

    In article <mpro.rjpew40003yf506vk.nwsgrp@ntlworld.com>,
    SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    The majority of comms. has moved to
    https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/

    How unfortunate, such a time wasting blob to wade through. :-(

    Dave

    Yes, I know, I've been subscribed to it for years, but I only visit when I really have to.

    I only see it when it occasionally turns up as a Web search result -- I
    tend to forget about its existence in the interim....


    --
    Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

    Strategic withdrawal - running away with dignity!

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  • From David Higton@21:1/5 to Dave on Thu Oct 13 23:09:26 2022
    In message <5a36e2e6f8dave@triffid.co.uk>
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <mpro.rjpew40003yf506vk.nwsgrp@ntlworld.com>,
    SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    Chris Newman wrote:
    I've noticed here how little traffic there has been lately.

    The majority of comms. has moved to https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/

    How unfortunate, such a time wasting blob to wade through. :-(

    How sad that you think so.

    I think of it as a much richer resource, much better curated.

    David

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  • From John Williams (News)@21:1/5 to Dave on Thu Oct 13 21:07:36 2022
    In article <5a36e2e6f8dave@triffid.co.uk>,
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    Yes, I know, I've been subscribed to it for years, but I only visit when I really have to.

    for which consideration we are extremely grateful!

    John

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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to David Higton on Fri Oct 14 06:39:51 2022
    In article <ad54f0365a.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
    In message <5a36e2e6f8dave@triffid.co.uk>
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <mpro.rjpew40003yf506vk.nwsgrp@ntlworld.com>,
    SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    Chris Newman wrote:
    I've noticed here how little traffic there has been lately.

    The majority of comms. has moved to https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/

    How unfortunate, such a time wasting blob to wade through. :-(

    How sad that you think so.

    I agree entirely, sometimes it depends which side of the bed he got out
    of... Grumpy old sod. ;-)

    I think of it as a much richer resource, much better curated.

    David

    Undoubtedly a rich source of stuff... That's not the problem... The time
    it takes to find stuff...

    Dave

    --

    Dave Triffid

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  • From T M Smith@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 14 11:17:19 2022
    In article <ad54f0365a.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
    In message <5a36e2e6f8dave@triffid.co.uk>
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <mpro.rjpew40003yf506vk.nwsgrp@ntlworld.com>,
    SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    Chris Newman wrote:
    I've noticed here how little traffic there has been lately.

    The majority of comms. has moved to https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/

    How unfortunate, such a time wasting blob to wade through. :-(

    How sad that you think so.

    I agree entirely, sometimes it depends which side of the bed he got out
    of... Grumpy old sod. ;-)

    I think of it as a much richer resource, much better curated.

    David

    Undoubtedly a rich source of stuff... That's not the problem... The time
    it takes to find stuff...

    Dave

    Having tried to sign into the site and been refused because I cannot prove
    I am not a robot what do I do ?
    Malcolm Smith


    --
    T M Smith
    Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.29 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to T M Smith on Fri Oct 14 11:50:48 2022
    In message <8df832375a.Broadband@tmsmith36.plus.com>
    T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:



    In article <ad54f0365a.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
    In message <5a36e2e6f8dave@triffid.co.uk>
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <mpro.rjpew40003yf506vk.nwsgrp@ntlworld.com>,
    SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    Chris Newman wrote:
    I've noticed here how little traffic there has been lately.

    The majority of comms. has moved to https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/ >>>>
    How unfortunate, such a time wasting blob to wade through. :-(

    How sad that you think so.

    I agree entirely, sometimes it depends which side of the bed he got out
    of... Grumpy old sod. ;-)

    I think of it as a much richer resource, much better curated.

    David

    Undoubtedly a rich source of stuff... That's not the problem... The time
    it takes to find stuff...

    Dave

    Having tried to sign into the site and been refused because I cannot prove
    I am not a robot what do I do ?

    Which browser did you use to try and register?

    Was there no tick box below the text that says "Please prove that you're a human" the box can take a few seconds to appear, just tested it here with !Iris. But justed tested with NetSurf 3.10 and also a latest build and the
    box below the text does not appear - could be a bug in !NetSurf

    --
    Chris Hughes

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  • From SG nws@21:1/5 to T M Smith on Fri Oct 14 11:27:19 2022
    T M Smith wrote:
    Having tried to sign into the site [https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/]
    and been refused because I cannot prove I am not a robot what do I do ?

    Turn to drink?
    --
    Stewart Goldwater

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  • From Alan Calder BT@21:1/5 to tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com on Fri Oct 14 11:35:30 2022
    In article <8df832375a.Broadband@tmsmith36.plus.com>, T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:


    [Snip]

    Having tried to sign into the site and been refused because I cannot
    prove I am not a robot what do I do ? Malcolm Smith

    Ask the nearest human to help you? Maybe your battery needs charging?

    Good luck

    Alan

    --
    Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.

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  • From News@21:1/5 to Richard Porter on Fri Oct 14 12:38:07 2022
    In article <e94faf365a.news@user.minijem.plus.com>,
    Richard Porter <ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:
    Could someone using news.plus.net (or otherwise) confirm that this
    is getting through.

    I've been getting connection failures from the server and haven't
    received any articles since 8th October.

    Are you using the new internet stack? I have found that when the ip6
    stack is installed it fails to resolve the news.plus.net address.
    Going back to the standard ROM internet stack and things are fine. At
    the moment I am not bothering with the ip6 stack.

    --
    Chris Johnson

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  • From Jean-Michel@21:1/5 to SG nws on Fri Oct 14 13:15:24 2022
    In message <mpro.rjpew40003yf506vk.nwsgrp@ntlworld.com>
    SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    Chris Newman wrote:
    I've noticed here how little traffic there has been lately.

    The majority of comms. has moved to
    https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/

    I use !Sargasso

    But I also like the news group comp.sys.acorn.

    --
    Jean-Michel

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to News on Fri Oct 14 13:34:45 2022
    In message <5a373a5e5echrisjohnson@spamcop.net>
    News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:

    In article <e94faf365a.news@user.minijem.plus.com>,
    Richard Porter <ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:
    Could someone using news.plus.net (or otherwise) confirm that this
    is getting through.

    I've been getting connection failures from the server and haven't
    received any articles since 8th October.

    Are you using the new internet stack? I have found that when the ip6
    stack is installed it fails to resolve the news.plus.net address.
    Going back to the standard ROM internet stack and things are fine. At
    the moment I am not bothering with the ip6 stack.

    Have you reported the issue. Otherwise it will not get fixed. In any case news.plus.net is not using IPv6 as PlusNet don't support IPv6 yet.

    You don't have to have the IPv6 stack enabled on the on the new stack.
    It's a button choice in configure. If not ticked then IPv6 not in use.

    --
    Chris Hughes

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  • From News@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Fri Oct 14 14:26:11 2022
    In article <7d8d3f375a.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    You don't have to have the IPv6 stack enabled on the on the new
    stack. It's a button choice in configure. If not ticked then IPv6
    not in use.

    I realise that, and I have never enabled the ip6 option. I actually
    checked that the option was not enabled. It is the address
    news.plus.net that will not resolve, everything that is not a news
    server resolves fine. I tried pinging the giga news addresses that
    the plusnet address aliases to and none of those resolve either. It
    appears to be a problem with news servers.

    --
    Chris Johnson

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to News on Fri Oct 14 15:03:30 2022
    In article <5a373a5e5echrisjohnson@spamcop.net>,
    News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:
    In article <e94faf365a.news@user.minijem.plus.com>,
    Richard Porter <ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:
    Could someone using news.plus.net (or otherwise) confirm that this
    is getting through.

    I use giganews (like news.plus.net), and saw all these posts.

    I've been getting connection failures from the server and haven't
    received any articles since 8th October.

    Are you using the new internet stack? I have found that when the
    ip6 stack is installed it fails to resolve the news.plus.net
    address. Going back to the standard ROM internet stack and things
    are fine. At the moment I am not bothering with the ip6 stack.

    Strange - I have been using the new stack since early this year, and
    have never seen that. Mind you, I use usenet.f9.net.uk, but that
    resolves to giganews as does news.force9.net. I have also just tried
    pinging news.plus.net and that resolves and works ok.

    --
    Martin Avison
    Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
    without notice if (when) any spam is received.

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  • From T M Smith@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Fri Oct 14 17:11:36 2022
    In message <6c0936375a.chris@mytardis>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    In message <8df832375a.Broadband@tmsmith36.plus.com>
    T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:



    In article <ad54f0365a.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
    In message <5a36e2e6f8dave@triffid.co.uk>
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <mpro.rjpew40003yf506vk.nwsgrp@ntlworld.com>,
    SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    Chris Newman wrote:
    I've noticed here how little traffic there has been lately.

    The majority of comms. has moved to https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/ >>>>>
    How unfortunate, such a time wasting blob to wade through. :-(

    How sad that you think so.

    I agree entirely, sometimes it depends which side of the bed he got out
    of... Grumpy old sod. ;-)

    I think of it as a much richer resource, much better curated.

    David

    Undoubtedly a rich source of stuff... That's not the problem... The time >>> it takes to find stuff...

    Dave

    Having tried to sign into the site and been refused because I cannot prove >> I am not a robot what do I do ?

    Which browser did you use to try and register?

    Was there no tick box below the text that says "Please prove that you're a human" the box can take a few seconds to appear, just tested it here with !Iris. But justed tested with NetSurf 3.10 and also a latest build and the box below the text does not appear - could be a bug in !NetSurf

    Yes but when clicked nothing happens!?

    --
    T M Smith
    Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.29 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

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  • From David Higton@21:1/5 to T M Smith on Fri Oct 14 22:40:46 2022
    In message <8df832375a.Broadband@tmsmith36.plus.com>
    T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:



    In article <ad54f0365a.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
    In message <5a36e2e6f8dave@triffid.co.uk>
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <mpro.rjpew40003yf506vk.nwsgrp@ntlworld.com>,
    SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    Chris Newman wrote:
    I've noticed here how little traffic there has been lately.

    The majority of comms. has moved to
    https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/

    How unfortunate, such a time wasting blob to wade through. :-(

    How sad that you think so.

    I agree entirely, sometimes it depends which side of the bed he got out of... Grumpy old sod. ;-)

    I think of it as a much richer resource, much better curated.

    David

    Undoubtedly a rich source of stuff... That's not the problem... The time
    it takes to find stuff...

    Dave

    Having tried to sign into the site and been refused because I cannot prove
    I am not a robot what do I do ?

    I assume this is when trying to create an account, rather than signing
    in to an existing account?

    David

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  • From David Higton@21:1/5 to News on Fri Oct 14 22:37:40 2022
    In message <5a37444328chrisjohnson@spamcop.net>
    News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:

    In article <7d8d3f375a.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    You don't have to have the IPv6 stack enabled on the on the new stack.
    It's a button choice in configure. If not ticked then IPv6 not in use.

    I realise that, and I have never enabled the ip6 option. I actually checked that the option was not enabled. It is the address news.plus.net that will not resolve, everything that is not a news server resolves fine. I tried pinging the giga news addresses that the plusnet address aliases to and
    none of those resolve either. It appears to be a problem with news servers.

    I've just tried pinging news.plus.net and it resolves fine for me. 69.80.102.133

    I've no idea what might be causing your problem, though, sorry.

    In desperation you could add the above address as an entry in your Hosts
    file.

    David

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  • From David Pitt@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 15 12:09:01 2022
    News, on 14 Oct, wrote:

    In article <e94faf365a.news@user.minijem.plus.com>,
    Richard Porter <ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:
    Could someone using news.plus.net (or otherwise) confirm that this
    is getting through.

    I've been getting connection failures from the server and haven't
    received any articles since 8th October.

    Are you using the new internet stack? I have found that when the ip6
    stack is installed it fails to resolve the news.plus.net address.
    Going back to the standard ROM internet stack and things are fine. At
    the moment I am not bothering with the ip6 stack.

    There is more here :-

    https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Usenet-not-working/td-p/1880679

    and specifically :-

    https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Usenet-not-working/m-p/1883750#M29278

    It's all a bit wierd.

    --
    David Pitt

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  • From News@21:1/5 to David Higton on Sat Oct 15 12:01:27 2022
    In article <3f4271375a.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
    In desperation you could add the above address as an entry in your
    Hosts file.

    It's a thought. I should add that this was not a single test. It
    started on Aug 14th, according to the NewsHound logs. I assumed
    initially the problem was down to PlusNet, since the new stack had
    been working ok. By chance I uninstalled the new stack at some point
    and news started working again. I have installed and uninstalled the
    new stack (12th and 18th May versions and the 1st June ROD version)
    on numerous occasions since then, but the behaviour is still the same.

    I have racked my brains to check whether I installed something else
    around that time that could be the cause but have come up with
    nothing. It is baffling that it is news servers that fail to resolve
    - everything else seems ok.

    --
    Chris Johnson

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  • From David Pitt@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 15 12:16:48 2022
    David Higton, on 13 Oct, wrote:

    In message <5a36e2e6f8dave@triffid.co.uk>
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <mpro.rjpew40003yf506vk.nwsgrp@ntlworld.com>,
    SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    Chris Newman wrote:
    I've noticed here how little traffic there has been lately.

    The majority of comms. has moved to https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/

    How unfortunate, such a time wasting blob to wade through. :-(

    How sad that you think so.

    I think of it as a much richer resource, much better curated.

    It is the only game in town now, but the signal to noise is dreadful.

    --
    David Pitt

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  • From Thomas Milius@21:1/5 to Dave on Sat Oct 15 14:16:59 2022
    In message <5a36b3a663dave@triffid.co.uk>
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    News has been very quiet in recent times.


    Unfortunately this seems to be the case. May be there is other technical trouble at some servers too. E.g. I posted three announcements to comp.sys.acorn.announce ten days ago. That had not been published yet
    so I assume that they were lost however.

    Thomas Milius

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  • From News@21:1/5 to David Pitt on Sat Oct 15 14:27:34 2022
    In article <mpro.rjskaz0065fr900wz.news2@pittdj.co.uk>,
    David Pitt <news2@pittdj.co.uk> wrote:
    https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Usenet-not-working/m-p/1883750#M29278

    It's all a bit wierd.

    I see that that these reports relate to the middle of August, which
    is when mine broke.

    Looks like it is something changed at PlusNet/GigaNews (the DNS
    response?) that effects the new RISC OS stack, but not the ROM based
    stack.

    I see also that David has seen the same as me - ROD stack fails but
    ROOL ROM is ok, as does 'BernardinSussex'.

    That thread looks very relevant - a contributing factor may be the
    ISP router version.

    --
    Chris Johnson

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Thomas Milius on Sat Oct 15 14:21:33 2022
    In message <5dc3c1375a.Thomas@tms_netz.vodafonemail.de>
    Thomas Milius <Thomas-Milius@vodafonemail.de> wrote:

    In message <5a36b3a663dave@triffid.co.uk>
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    News has been very quiet in recent times.


    Unfortunately this seems to be the case. May be there is other technical trouble at some servers too. E.g. I posted three announcements to comp.sys.acorn.announce ten days ago. That had not been published yet
    so I assume that they were lost however.

    Thomas, did you send them to the Submissions to csaa@owlart.net
    address. Thats the address for sending stuff for putting on CSA.Announce



    --
    Chris Hughes

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  • From Jim Lesurf@21:1/5 to chrisjohnson@spamcop.net on Sat Oct 15 10:11:31 2022
    In article <5a373a5e5echrisjohnson@spamcop.net>, News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:
    In article <e94faf365a.news@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter
    <ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:
    Could someone using news.plus.net (or otherwise) confirm that this is getting through.

    I've been getting connection failures from the server and haven't
    received any articles since 8th October.

    Are you using the new internet stack? I have found that when the ip6
    stack is installed it fails to resolve the news.plus.net address. Going
    back to the standard ROM internet stack and things are fine. At the
    moment I am not bothering with the ip6 stack.

    I've not had usenet access for some weeks. According to Oprheus this was because the place he gets it via had cut off service due to "too much use". Just prior to that I'd got *thousands* of old repeated postings. However
    this morning I got usenet to fetch OK.

    Jim

    --
    Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm
    biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html
    Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

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  • From Stuart@21:1/5 to David Higton on Sat Oct 15 15:23:27 2022
    In article <ad54f0365a.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
    The majority of comms. has moved to https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/

    How unfortunate, such a time wasting blob to wade through. :-(

    How sad that you think so.

    I think of it as a much richer resource, much better curated.

    Much less satisfactory the newsnet or a mailing list.

    With both systems stuff just pops in nicely, daily. !Pluto just filters
    stuff into boxes and I read, dump or archive as required. No need to go
    through a login and search process. You can call me lazy if you like but
    forums are simply too much hassle and I still cannot understand why ROOL
    went down this route when the former are much easier to use.

    --
    Stuart Winsor

    Tools With A Mission
    sending tools across the world
    http://www.twam.co.uk/

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  • From Stuart@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Sat Oct 15 15:24:46 2022
    In article <fb3cb0365a.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <e94faf365a.news@user.minijem.plus.com>
    Richard Porter <ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:

    Could someone using news.plus.net (or otherwise) confirm that this is getting through.

    I've been getting connection failures from the server and haven't received any articles since 8th October.

    Received here OK.

    news.plus.net is an alias to the giganews servers (i.e. not part of
    PlusNet)

    Orpheus also use Giganews and have had problems of late, just back to
    normal now.

    --
    Stuart Winsor

    Tools With A Mission
    sending tools across the world
    http://www.twam.co.uk/

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  • From Thomas Milius@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Sat Oct 15 17:54:34 2022
    In message <a5acc7375a.chris@mytardis>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    In message <5dc3c1375a.Thomas@tms_netz.vodafonemail.de>
    Thomas Milius <Thomas-Milius@vodafonemail.de> wrote:

    In message <5a36b3a663dave@triffid.co.uk>
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    News has been very quiet in recent times.


    Unfortunately this seems to be the case. May be there is other technical trouble at some servers too. E.g. I posted three announcements to comp.sys.acorn.announce ten days ago. That had not been published yet
    so I assume that they were lost however.

    Thomas, did you send them to the Submissions to csaa@owlart.net
    address. Thats the address for sending stuff for putting on CSA.Announce


    I simply wrote the announces with Messenger (now Version 9) for newsgroup comp.sys.acorn.announce. Until now this this was automatically redirected
    in which way ever to csaa@owlart.net and after hours or one or two days
    I got a reply from Andrew that my submissions have been published.

    However this time I didn't got any reply from him :-(. My news provider
    is eternal september. May be something went wrong there. I also had trouble contactiing ROOL a while. One internal forwarding at their side ended up in a spam classfication which was sent back to me. Reason for it was a missing certificate. May be its something similar here but in this case I won't get aware of it but only perhaps a person at eternal september :-(. I shall try
    to resend the submissions directly to csaa@owlart.net. However it would be interesting to find the reason for the loss. Perhaps there is a general bug affecting other groups too. But I don't have a clue how a can examine this
    from my side in more detail.

    Thomas Milius

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  • From News@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 15 17:07:53 2022
    Your posts, and several others have now appeared.

    --
    Chris Johnson

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  • From Steve Fryatt@21:1/5 to Stuart on Sat Oct 15 17:43:42 2022
    On 15 Oct, Stuart wrote in message
    <5a37cd574fSpambin@argonet.co.uk>:

    I still cannot understand why ROOL went down this route

    Because new people coming to the platform will expect a forum.

    when the former are much easier to use.

    If you know what they are and have a system set up for them. Many won't have access to Usenet, or a threading-aware mail reader -- and most of those
    won't want to get either of them.

    I'd still prefer newsgroups or a mailing list, but I'm aware enough of the
    big, wide world outside of RISC OS[1] to know that I'm in a minority.


    1. And 32-bit RISC OS, at that: see the recent MUG meeting discussions[2]
    and where it was noted that the _rest_ of the RISC OS users are these days. Clue: it's not usenet or a mailing list.

    2. Or even the discussion about it on the ROOL forum recently.

    --
    Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

    http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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  • From Steve Fryatt@21:1/5 to Thomas Milius on Sat Oct 15 17:36:10 2022
    On 15 Oct, Thomas Milius wrote in message
    <d8aed5375a.Thomas@tms_netz.vodafonemail.de>:

    In message <a5acc7375a.chris@mytardis>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    Thomas, did you send them to the Submissions to csaa@owlart.net address. Thats the address for sending stuff for putting on CSA.Announce

    I simply wrote the announces with Messenger (now Version 9) for newsgroup comp.sys.acorn.announce. Until now this this was automatically redirected
    in which way ever to csaa@owlart.net and after hours or one or two days I
    got a reply from Andrew that my submissions have been published.

    From what I remember, this approach is fine for a compliant newsreader. If
    it has been working for you, then it still should work.

    However this time I didn't got any reply from him :-(.

    [...]

    However it would be interesting to find the reason for the loss.

    I'm fairly sure that at the last MUG meeting (which Chris was at, so he
    should have known this too) it was mentioned in passing that there has been
    a problem with CSAA submissions for a while due to an issue at the
    moderator's news server -- which I think is the Orhpeus one. Whether it was actually the server, which I think is Giganews, or the way that Orpheus reference it in their own systems wasn't made clear.

    Effectively there has been no way for approved posts to be sent to the group for about a month; this has certainly affected posts that I've sent. It
    might have been useful if this had been publicised more widely somewhere,
    but to be fair, I might just have missed it.

    As others havs said, this now looks to be fixed.

    --
    Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

    http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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  • From Richard Porter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 15 20:27:45 2022
    The date being 13 Oct 2022, Richard Porter <ricp@minijem.plus.com> decided
    to write:

    Could someone using news.plus.net (or otherwise) confirm that this is
    getting through.

    I've been getting connection failures from the server and haven't received any articles since 8th October.

    Thanks for all the replies. The flood gates opened today and I've received about 60 posts.

    Richard
    --
    Richard Porter

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  • From Steve Fryatt@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Sat Oct 15 20:47:31 2022
    On 15 Oct, Chris Hughes wrote in message
    <a5acc7375a.chris@mytardis>:

    Thomas, did you send them to the Submissions to csaa@owlart.net address. Thats the address for sending stuff for putting on CSA.Announce

    Submissions to CSAA appear to have been borked for a month, reportedly due
    to the problems with the Orpheus news server. It doesn't matter how Thomas submitted his posts: they will not have appeared.

    The announcement of the October WROCC meeting was lost for the same reason.

    The problem appears to be fixed this weekend. Coincidentally, people are reporting that Orpheus news server is back, too.

    --
    Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

    http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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  • From Richard Porter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 15 20:24:51 2022
    The date being 14 Oct 2022, Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> decided
    to write:

    In message <5a373a5e5echrisjohnson@spamcop.net>
    News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:

    In article <e94faf365a.news@user.minijem.plus.com>,
    Richard Porter <ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:
    Could someone using news.plus.net (or otherwise) confirm that this
    is getting through.

    I've been getting connection failures from the server and haven't
    received any articles since 8th October.

    Are you using the new internet stack? I have found that when the ip6
    stack is installed it fails to resolve the news.plus.net address.
    Going back to the standard ROM internet stack and things are fine. At
    the moment I am not bothering with the ip6 stack.

    Have you reported the issue. Otherwise it will not get fixed. In any case news.plus.net is not using IPv6 as PlusNet don't support IPv6 yet.

    You don't have to have the IPv6 stack enabled on the on the new stack.
    It's a button choice in configure. If not ticked then IPv6 not in use.

    I'm not using the new comms stack. I have a ticket open with PlusNet.

    Richard

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  • From Jim Lesurf@21:1/5 to Spambin@argonet.co.uk on Sun Oct 16 10:17:06 2022
    In article <5a37cd574fSpambin@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart
    <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

    Much less satisfactory the newsnet or a mailing list.

    With both systems stuff just pops in nicely, daily. !Pluto just filters
    stuff into boxes and I read, dump or archive as required. No need to go through a login and search process. You can call me lazy if you like but forums are simply too much hassle and I still cannot understand why ROOL
    went down this route when the former are much easier to use.

    I also prefer usenet. Most web forums I've looked at seem a PITA to use.
    There are some rare exceptions. e.g. I do use 'Pink Fish', a forum for Hi-Fi/audio. Unusually, it works well with !NetSurf with 'scripting off'.
    That means I don't see the adverts, etc, and the pages are much easier to
    read. Higher content/area factor than many forums. Less clutter.

    Jim

    --
    Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm
    biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html
    Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

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  • From Folderol@21:1/5 to Jim Lesurf on Sun Oct 16 11:18:15 2022
    On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 10:17:06 +0100
    Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <5a37cd574fSpambin@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart
    <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

    Much less satisfactory the newsnet or a mailing list.

    With both systems stuff just pops in nicely, daily. !Pluto just filters
    stuff into boxes and I read, dump or archive as required. No need to go
    through a login and search process. You can call me lazy if you like but
    forums are simply too much hassle and I still cannot understand why ROOL
    went down this route when the former are much easier to use.

    I also prefer usenet. Most web forums I've looked at seem a PITA to use. >There are some rare exceptions. e.g. I do use 'Pink Fish', a forum for >Hi-Fi/audio. Unusually, it works well with !NetSurf with 'scripting off'. >That means I don't see the adverts, etc, and the pages are much easier to >read. Higher content/area factor than many forums. Less clutter.

    Jim

    Horses for courses. I'm happy using both depending on the content. I'm quite picky about which groups or forums I subscribe to.

    --
    Basic

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  • From Jim Lesurf@21:1/5 to general@musically.me.uk on Tue Oct 18 10:44:30 2022
    In article <20221016111815.378a452a@devuan>, Folderol
    <general@musically.me.uk> wrote:
    I also prefer usenet. Most web forums I've looked at seem a PITA to
    use. There are some rare exceptions. e.g. I do use 'Pink Fish', a forum
    for Hi-Fi/audio. Unusually, it works well with !NetSurf with 'scripting >off'. That means I don't see the adverts, etc, and the pages are much >easier to read. Higher content/area factor than many forums. Less
    clutter.

    Jim

    Horses for courses. I'm happy using both depending on the content. I'm
    quite picky about which groups or forums I subscribe to.

    Many web forums I've seen (briefly) tend to suffer from two problems.

    1) Page layout and choice of fonts, colours, etc, presents far less of the visible area as text, with lots of 'glare' from awful colours, 'design
    layout', etc. Hard to read. Makes my eyes hurt.

    2) Ads and tracking of the user.

    Using PFM with scripting off means none of the above is a problem. It is
    also very well moderated by a real person.

    Jim

    --
    Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm
    biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html
    Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

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