• A good desktop hub for USB 2/3?

    From -hh@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 21 11:45:23 2022
    Been slowly tinkering with my glacial desktop transition.

    One of the next things up is to figure out a reasonable approach
    to provisioning with an ample number of USB 2/3 ports.
    Insofar as how many, I'd guess that the Mac Pro probably has
    somewhere around 15-20. Probably don't technically need that
    many, but its fast/easy/lazy to leave stuff plugged in when not
    in active use, as well as to have a USB/Lightning prepositioned
    for whatever mobile device synch, etc.

    In looking at Thunderbolt & USB-C hubs, the general trend seems
    to be that they have a wide variety of interfaces on them
    (eg, HDMI, Ethernet, SDXC), but I already have these pretty well
    covered; just looking for mostly just "more USB's" than the others.

    Is this use case to just keep on using a bog-standard old school
    USB hub to branch off an existing USB 2/3 port? Or is there a
    USB-C/TB modernized equivalent that's worthwhile?

    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Jul 21 12:23:48 2022
    On 2022-07-21 11:45, -hh wrote:
    Been slowly tinkering with my glacial desktop transition.

    One of the next things up is to figure out a reasonable approach
    to provisioning with an ample number of USB 2/3 ports.
    Insofar as how many, I'd guess that the Mac Pro probably has
    somewhere around 15-20. Probably don't technically need that
    many, but its fast/easy/lazy to leave stuff plugged in when not
    in active use, as well as to have a USB/Lightning prepositioned
    for whatever mobile device synch, etc.

    In looking at Thunderbolt & USB-C hubs, the general trend seems
    to be that they have a wide variety of interfaces on them
    (eg, HDMI, Ethernet, SDXC), but I already have these pretty well
    covered; just looking for mostly just "more USB's" than the others.

    Is this use case to just keep on using a bog-standard old school
    USB hub to branch off an existing USB 2/3 port? Or is there a
    USB-C/TB modernized equivalent that's worthwhile?

    I don't have the entire answer you need, but I will say that I've
    recently seen a problem for a client that appears to be related to a USB-C/Thunderbolt 4 multi-interface hub he purchased.

    I haven't yet had enough time to diagnose it thoroughly, but I have a
    strong suspicion that the issue is with the external monitor functionality.

    So I'd definitely lean towards a simple USB hub if USB ports are all you
    need.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Jul 21 12:39:51 2022
    On 2022-07-21 11:45, -hh wrote:
    Been slowly tinkering with my glacial desktop transition.

    One of the next things up is to figure out a reasonable approach
    to provisioning with an ample number of USB 2/3 ports.
    Insofar as how many, I'd guess that the Mac Pro probably has
    somewhere around 15-20. Probably don't technically need that
    many, but its fast/easy/lazy to leave stuff plugged in when not
    in active use, as well as to have a USB/Lightning prepositioned
    for whatever mobile device synch, etc.

    In looking at Thunderbolt & USB-C hubs, the general trend seems
    to be that they have a wide variety of interfaces on them
    (eg, HDMI, Ethernet, SDXC), but I already have these pretty well
    covered; just looking for mostly just "more USB's" than the others.

    Is this use case to just keep on using a bog-standard old school
    USB hub to branch off an existing USB 2/3 port? Or is there a
    USB-C/TB modernized equivalent that's worthwhile?

    I've found the NYTimes Wirecutter to be a good source and they suggest
    this for maximum USB-A style ports:

    <https://www.anker.com/products/a7515?_pos=2&_sid=683f58b73&_ss=r>

    7 ports of USB-A SuperSpeed and 3 charging ports (for which they don't
    mention the transfer speed, if any).

    And there's another one with 10 ports which all deliver SuperSpeed and
    one of which is a charging port:

    <https://www.anker.com/products/o7510?_pos=1&_sid=683f58b73&_ss=r>

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Aug 29 05:02:30 2022
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 3:39:55 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-07-21 11:45, -hh wrote:
    Been slowly tinkering with my glacial desktop transition.

    One of the next things up is to figure out a reasonable approach
    to provisioning with an ample number of USB 2/3 ports.
    Insofar as how many, I'd guess that the Mac Pro probably has
    somewhere around 15-20. Probably don't technically need that
    many, but its fast/easy/lazy to leave stuff plugged in when not
    in active use, as well as to have a USB/Lightning prepositioned
    for whatever mobile device synch, etc.

    In looking at Thunderbolt & USB-C hubs, the general trend seems
    to be that they have a wide variety of interfaces on them
    (eg, HDMI, Ethernet, SDXC), but I already have these pretty well
    covered; just looking for mostly just "more USB's" than the others.

    Is this use case to just keep on using a bog-standard old school
    USB hub to branch off an existing USB 2/3 port? Or is there a
    USB-C/TB modernized equivalent that's worthwhile?
    I've found the NYTimes Wirecutter to be a good source and they suggest
    this for maximum USB-A style ports:

    <https://www.anker.com/products/a7515?_pos=2&_sid=683f58b73&_ss=r>

    7 ports of USB-A SuperSpeed and 3 charging ports (for which they don't mention the transfer speed, if any).

    And there's another one with 10 ports which all deliver SuperSpeed and
    one of which is a charging port:

    <https://www.anker.com/products/o7510?_pos=1&_sid=683f58b73&_ss=r>

    Finally getting back around to this.

    I think in general I'm not looking for charging, so I'd go with the simpler of the above.

    Another that I've found while causally browsing is this one:

    <https://www.amazon.com/Rybozen-7-Port-Aluminum-Adapter-Desktop/dp/B07FQ94LV7>

    I'll admit that the visual appearance is a hook; I'm not familiar with Rybozen as a brand.


    -hh

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  • From MuahMan@21:1/5 to -hh on Mon Aug 29 09:01:37 2022
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 2:45:24 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
    Been slowly tinkering with my glacial desktop transition.

    One of the next things up is to figure out a reasonable approach
    to provisioning with an ample number of USB 2/3 ports.
    Insofar as how many, I'd guess that the Mac Pro probably has
    somewhere around 15-20. Probably don't technically need that
    many, but its fast/easy/lazy to leave stuff plugged in when not
    in active use, as well as to have a USB/Lightning prepositioned
    for whatever mobile device synch, etc.

    In looking at Thunderbolt & USB-C hubs, the general trend seems
    to be that they have a wide variety of interfaces on them
    (eg, HDMI, Ethernet, SDXC), but I already have these pretty well
    covered; just looking for mostly just "more USB's" than the others.

    Is this use case to just keep on using a bog-standard old school
    USB hub to branch off an existing USB 2/3 port? Or is there a
    USB-C/TB modernized equivalent that's worthwhile?

    -hh

    Just use the plethora of USB ports that come on your MacBook... Oh wait.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to MuahMan on Mon Aug 29 09:55:12 2022
    On 2022-08-29 09:01, MuahMan wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 2:45:24 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
    Been slowly tinkering with my glacial desktop transition.

    One of the next things up is to figure out a reasonable approach
    to provisioning with an ample number of USB 2/3 ports.
    Insofar as how many, I'd guess that the Mac Pro probably has
    somewhere around 15-20. Probably don't technically need that
    many, but its fast/easy/lazy to leave stuff plugged in when not
    in active use, as well as to have a USB/Lightning prepositioned
    for whatever mobile device synch, etc.

    In looking at Thunderbolt & USB-C hubs, the general trend seems
    to be that they have a wide variety of interfaces on them
    (eg, HDMI, Ethernet, SDXC), but I already have these pretty well
    covered; just looking for mostly just "more USB's" than the others.

    Is this use case to just keep on using a bog-standard old school
    USB hub to branch off an existing USB 2/3 port? Or is there a
    USB-C/TB modernized equivalent that's worthwhile?

    -hh

    Just use the plethora of USB ports that come on your MacBook... Oh wait.

    What's your computer, Brian?

    How many USB ports does it have?

    :-)

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Mon Aug 29 10:00:43 2022
    On 2022-08-29 05:02, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 3:39:55 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-07-21 11:45, -hh wrote:
    Been slowly tinkering with my glacial desktop transition.

    One of the next things up is to figure out a reasonable approach
    to provisioning with an ample number of USB 2/3 ports.
    Insofar as how many, I'd guess that the Mac Pro probably has
    somewhere around 15-20. Probably don't technically need that
    many, but its fast/easy/lazy to leave stuff plugged in when not
    in active use, as well as to have a USB/Lightning prepositioned
    for whatever mobile device synch, etc.

    In looking at Thunderbolt & USB-C hubs, the general trend seems
    to be that they have a wide variety of interfaces on them
    (eg, HDMI, Ethernet, SDXC), but I already have these pretty well
    covered; just looking for mostly just "more USB's" than the others.

    Is this use case to just keep on using a bog-standard old school
    USB hub to branch off an existing USB 2/3 port? Or is there a
    USB-C/TB modernized equivalent that's worthwhile?
    I've found the NYTimes Wirecutter to be a good source and they suggest
    this for maximum USB-A style ports:

    <https://www.anker.com/products/a7515?_pos=2&_sid=683f58b73&_ss=r>

    7 ports of USB-A SuperSpeed and 3 charging ports (for which they don't
    mention the transfer speed, if any).

    And there's another one with 10 ports which all deliver SuperSpeed and
    one of which is a charging port:

    <https://www.anker.com/products/o7510?_pos=1&_sid=683f58b73&_ss=r>

    Finally getting back around to this.

    I think in general I'm not looking for charging, so I'd go with the simpler of the above.

    Another that I've found while causally browsing is this one:

    <https://www.amazon.com/Rybozen-7-Port-Aluminum-Adapter-Desktop/dp/B07FQ94LV7>

    I'll admit that the visual appearance is a hook; I'm not familiar with Rybozen as a brand.

    Yes, well. There are LOTS of brands on Amazon no one has ever heard of... 😂

    But more importantly, that hub is USB-A for the attachment to the Mac,
    and so you could run into more of a bottleneck if you have a couple of
    high bandwidth devices attached.

    I'd be looking for a hub that is lots of USB ports but which connects to
    the Mac via Thunderbolt/USB-C

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 30 06:01:42 2022
    On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 1:00:48 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-29 05:02, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 3:39:55 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-07-21 11:45, -hh wrote:
    Been slowly tinkering with my glacial desktop transition.

    One of the next things up is to figure out a reasonable approach
    to provisioning with an ample number of USB 2/3 ports.
    Insofar as how many, I'd guess that the Mac Pro probably has
    somewhere around 15-20. Probably don't technically need that
    many, but its fast/easy/lazy to leave stuff plugged in when not
    in active use, as well as to have a USB/Lightning prepositioned
    for whatever mobile device synch, etc.

    In looking at Thunderbolt & USB-C hubs, the general trend seems
    to be that they have a wide variety of interfaces on them
    (eg, HDMI, Ethernet, SDXC), but I already have these pretty well
    covered; just looking for mostly just "more USB's" than the others.

    Is this use case to just keep on using a bog-standard old school
    USB hub to branch off an existing USB 2/3 port? Or is there a
    USB-C/TB modernized equivalent that's worthwhile?
    I've found the NYTimes Wirecutter to be a good source and they suggest
    this for maximum USB-A style ports:

    <https://www.anker.com/products/a7515?_pos=2&_sid=683f58b73&_ss=r>

    7 ports of USB-A SuperSpeed and 3 charging ports (for which they don't
    mention the transfer speed, if any).

    And there's another one with 10 ports which all deliver SuperSpeed and
    one of which is a charging port:

    <https://www.anker.com/products/o7510?_pos=1&_sid=683f58b73&_ss=r>

    Finally getting back around to this.

    I think in general I'm not looking for charging, so I'd go with the simpler of the above.

    Another that I've found while causally browsing is this one:

    <https://www.amazon.com/Rybozen-7-Port-Aluminum-Adapter-Desktop/dp/B07FQ94LV7>

    I'll admit that the visual appearance is a hook; I'm not familiar with Rybozen as a brand.
    Yes, well. There are LOTS of brands on Amazon no one has ever heard of... 😂

    But more importantly, that hub is USB-A for the attachment to the Mac,
    and so you could run into more of a bottleneck if you have a couple of
    high bandwidth devices attached.

    Yes, I'm aware of that; the same was true for the above Anker hubs too.
    My general thoughts are mostly that its a desktop, so 'set it and forget it' is preferred over having to plug/unplug the different peripherals. For what's to be hooked up in this fashion, USB-3 isgood enough.

    I'd be looking for a hub that is lots of USB ports but which connects to
    the Mac via Thunderbolt/USB-C

    Been considering that some, as there's more TB ports than USB-A style on
    the Studio, but I've not really found a TB/USB-C -to- "many" USB-A hub config.

    I already have one such hub with 4 USB-A's and it seems that most such hubs seem offer just ~4 USB/(C or A) ports and if there's more ports, the others
    are some variation of "not USB": Ethernet, video, memory card slots, etc,
    most of which would go empty for my use case.

    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to MuahMan on Tue Aug 30 06:15:30 2022
    On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 12:01:38 PM UTC-4, MuahMan wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 2:45:24 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
    Been slowly tinkering with my glacial desktop transition.
    ...

    Just use the plethora of USB ports that come on your MacBook... Oh wait.


    Brian! Long time.
    Stimulus checks run out, so you're looking for work again? <g>

    Ports on the MacBook Pro aren't the topic ... as it says above, this is for transitioning my desktop iron to new iron; Its base configuration has
    eight (8) USB ports (4* TB4 + 2* USB-C + 2* USB-A), plus also SDXC,
    10gbE, HDMI, WiFi & Bluetooth...don't think you'll be finding that built in
    on most of today's laptops.

    But if your laptop does have more than 8, feel free to post a pic like you
    had been so prolific at doing...Irving apparently loves egotistical brags. /s

    -hh

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