• OT: An honour...

    From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 17 12:39:06 2022
    XPost: rec.autos.sport.f1

    ...or did I just draw the short straw? :-)

    The Race Drivers Committee (RDC) of the Sports Car Club of British
    Columbia (SCCBC) met last night for our end-of-season meeting to discuss
    issues impacting road racing with the SCCBC (and the other groups who
    run races at our facility), and somehow, I was nominated and accepted to
    be the RDC Chairman for 2023.

    It's not that onerous a job (so I'm told), but for this coming season,
    we decided as a group that we'd like to see some changes in the way we
    hold drivers accountable for on-track incidents, and my very first duty
    as chair is going to be writing a letter to one of the RDC to officially
    inform him that he has been suspended from the committee for the coming
    year, due to a number of on-track incidents that we feel don't meet the standard of driving that every race driver should meet.

    There's an odd dichotomy about this "sport":

    We all want to compete to one degree or another.

    But we all should also acknowledge that there are lines of
    aggressiveness that we shouldn't cross.

    Even at the highest levels of motorsport, there should never be
    incidents where one driver basically offers the options: "I win, or we
    both crash".

    And we saw a little too much of that mentality (probably to a lesser
    degree, but still in the ballpark)—particularly at our last race of the
    year.

    The actual incident that I think galvanized us to change our system (in
    ways yet to be determined) was between two drivers who were both in the
    running to win their class championship, and running 1-2 in the race as
    it came near its finish.

    They came up on a car on the exit of turn 9 onto the front straight and
    as both moved to lap it the driver behind feinted as if he would go to
    the left of the car ahead and then moved over and drove to the right of
    the lead car, and the lead car then tried too late to "block" the pass,
    ending up with both of them crashing out with the trailing car hitting
    the concrete block wall so hard that one of the blocks broken in half.

    The contact with the wall peeled of the sheet metal door panel from
    right ride side and it went flying into the tech area (where cars are safety-checked and weighed) where three of the emeritus members of the
    club were sitting as they always do.

    It was only luck that there were no serious injuries, but the car that
    hit the wall is almost certainly a complete write-off.

    Need I say that the lead driver was found to be mostly at fault for an
    (at best) ill-advised, too late attempt to prevent the car behind from
    passing when that car had in fact already got an overlap, and that that
    lead driver was the RDC member whom I must inform of his suspension?

    So I'm honoured...I guess.

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Nov 18 11:47:19 2022
    XPost: rec.autos.sport.f1

    On 18/11/2022 9:39 am, Alan wrote:
    ...or did I just draw the short straw? :-)

    The Race Drivers Committee (RDC) of the Sports Car Club of British
    Columbia (SCCBC) met last night for our end-of-season meeting to discuss issues impacting road racing with the SCCBC (and the other groups who
    run races at our facility), and somehow, I was nominated and accepted to
    be the RDC Chairman for 2023.


    Need I say that the lead driver was found to be mostly at fault for an
    (at best) ill-advised, too late attempt to prevent the car behind from passing when that car had in fact already got an overlap, and that that
    lead driver was the RDC member whom I must inform of his suspension?

    So I'm honoured...I guess.

    Will you be informing yourself ?

    geoff

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to geoff on Thu Nov 17 15:17:46 2022
    XPost: rec.autos.sport.f1

    On 2022-11-17 14:47, geoff wrote:
    On 18/11/2022 9:39 am, Alan wrote:
    ...or did I just draw the short straw? :-)

    The Race Drivers Committee (RDC) of the Sports Car Club of British
    Columbia (SCCBC) met last night for our end-of-season meeting to
    discuss issues impacting road racing with the SCCBC (and the other
    groups who run races at our facility), and somehow, I was nominated
    and accepted to be the RDC Chairman for 2023.


    Need I say that the lead driver was found to be mostly at fault for an
    (at best) ill-advised, too late attempt to prevent the car behind from
    passing when that car had in fact already got an overlap, and that
    that lead driver was the RDC member whom I must inform of his suspension?

    So I'm honoured...I guess.

    Will you be informing yourself ?

    Hilarious...

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  • From Thomas E.@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Nov 22 07:51:03 2022
    On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    ...or did I just draw the short straw? :-)

    The Race Drivers Committee (RDC) of the Sports Car Club of British
    Columbia (SCCBC) met last night for our end-of-season meeting to discuss issues impacting road racing with the SCCBC (and the other groups who
    run races at our facility), and somehow, I was nominated and accepted to
    be the RDC Chairman for 2023.

    It's not that onerous a job (so I'm told), but for this coming season,
    we decided as a group that we'd like to see some changes in the way we
    hold drivers accountable for on-track incidents, and my very first duty
    as chair is going to be writing a letter to one of the RDC to officially inform him that he has been suspended from the committee for the coming year, due to a number of on-track incidents that we feel don't meet the standard of driving that every race driver should meet.

    There's an odd dichotomy about this "sport":

    We all want to compete to one degree or another.

    But we all should also acknowledge that there are lines of
    aggressiveness that we shouldn't cross.

    Even at the highest levels of motorsport, there should never be
    incidents where one driver basically offers the options: "I win, or we
    both crash".

    And we saw a little too much of that mentality (probably to a lesser
    degree, but still in the ballpark)—particularly at our last race of the year.

    The actual incident that I think galvanized us to change our system (in
    ways yet to be determined) was between two drivers who were both in the running to win their class championship, and running 1-2 in the race as
    it came near its finish.

    They came up on a car on the exit of turn 9 onto the front straight and
    as both moved to lap it the driver behind feinted as if he would go to
    the left of the car ahead and then moved over and drove to the right of
    the lead car, and the lead car then tried too late to "block" the pass, ending up with both of them crashing out with the trailing car hitting
    the concrete block wall so hard that one of the blocks broken in half.

    The contact with the wall peeled of the sheet metal door panel from
    right ride side and it went flying into the tech area (where cars are safety-checked and weighed) where three of the emeritus members of the
    club were sitting as they always do.

    It was only luck that there were no serious injuries, but the car that
    hit the wall is almost certainly a complete write-off.

    Need I say that the lead driver was found to be mostly at fault for an
    (at best) ill-advised, too late attempt to prevent the car behind from passing when that car had in fact already got an overlap, and that that
    lead driver was the RDC member whom I must inform of his suspension?

    So I'm honoured...I guess.

    Given the way you treat people in this group you will relish the duty.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Tue Nov 22 10:14:34 2022
    On 2022-11-22 07:51, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    ...or did I just draw the short straw? :-)

    The Race Drivers Committee (RDC) of the Sports Car Club of British
    Columbia (SCCBC) met last night for our end-of-season meeting to discuss
    issues impacting road racing with the SCCBC (and the other groups who
    run races at our facility), and somehow, I was nominated and accepted to
    be the RDC Chairman for 2023.

    It's not that onerous a job (so I'm told), but for this coming season,
    we decided as a group that we'd like to see some changes in the way we
    hold drivers accountable for on-track incidents, and my very first duty
    as chair is going to be writing a letter to one of the RDC to officially
    inform him that he has been suspended from the committee for the coming
    year, due to a number of on-track incidents that we feel don't meet the
    standard of driving that every race driver should meet.

    There's an odd dichotomy about this "sport":

    We all want to compete to one degree or another.

    But we all should also acknowledge that there are lines of
    aggressiveness that we shouldn't cross.

    Even at the highest levels of motorsport, there should never be
    incidents where one driver basically offers the options: "I win, or we
    both crash".

    And we saw a little too much of that mentality (probably to a lesser
    degree, but still in the ballpark)—particularly at our last race of the
    year.

    The actual incident that I think galvanized us to change our system (in
    ways yet to be determined) was between two drivers who were both in the
    running to win their class championship, and running 1-2 in the race as
    it came near its finish.

    They came up on a car on the exit of turn 9 onto the front straight and
    as both moved to lap it the driver behind feinted as if he would go to
    the left of the car ahead and then moved over and drove to the right of
    the lead car, and the lead car then tried too late to "block" the pass,
    ending up with both of them crashing out with the trailing car hitting
    the concrete block wall so hard that one of the blocks broken in half.

    The contact with the wall peeled of the sheet metal door panel from
    right ride side and it went flying into the tech area (where cars are
    safety-checked and weighed) where three of the emeritus members of the
    club were sitting as they always do.

    It was only luck that there were no serious injuries, but the car that
    hit the wall is almost certainly a complete write-off.

    Need I say that the lead driver was found to be mostly at fault for an
    (at best) ill-advised, too late attempt to prevent the car behind from
    passing when that car had in fact already got an overlap, and that that
    lead driver was the RDC member whom I must inform of his suspension?

    So I'm honoured...I guess.

    Given the way you treat people in this group you will relish the duty.

    That comment is far more telling of you than it is of me, you little shit.

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  • From Thomas E.@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Nov 27 07:54:05 2022
    On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 1:14:41 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-22 07:51, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    ...or did I just draw the short straw? :-)

    The Race Drivers Committee (RDC) of the Sports Car Club of British
    Columbia (SCCBC) met last night for our end-of-season meeting to discuss >> issues impacting road racing with the SCCBC (and the other groups who
    run races at our facility), and somehow, I was nominated and accepted to >> be the RDC Chairman for 2023.

    It's not that onerous a job (so I'm told), but for this coming season,
    we decided as a group that we'd like to see some changes in the way we
    hold drivers accountable for on-track incidents, and my very first duty >> as chair is going to be writing a letter to one of the RDC to officially >> inform him that he has been suspended from the committee for the coming >> year, due to a number of on-track incidents that we feel don't meet the >> standard of driving that every race driver should meet.

    There's an odd dichotomy about this "sport":

    We all want to compete to one degree or another.

    But we all should also acknowledge that there are lines of
    aggressiveness that we shouldn't cross.

    Even at the highest levels of motorsport, there should never be
    incidents where one driver basically offers the options: "I win, or we
    both crash".

    And we saw a little too much of that mentality (probably to a lesser
    degree, but still in the ballpark)—particularly at our last race of the >> year.

    The actual incident that I think galvanized us to change our system (in >> ways yet to be determined) was between two drivers who were both in the >> running to win their class championship, and running 1-2 in the race as >> it came near its finish.

    They came up on a car on the exit of turn 9 onto the front straight and >> as both moved to lap it the driver behind feinted as if he would go to
    the left of the car ahead and then moved over and drove to the right of >> the lead car, and the lead car then tried too late to "block" the pass, >> ending up with both of them crashing out with the trailing car hitting
    the concrete block wall so hard that one of the blocks broken in half.

    The contact with the wall peeled of the sheet metal door panel from
    right ride side and it went flying into the tech area (where cars are
    safety-checked and weighed) where three of the emeritus members of the
    club were sitting as they always do.

    It was only luck that there were no serious injuries, but the car that
    hit the wall is almost certainly a complete write-off.

    Need I say that the lead driver was found to be mostly at fault for an
    (at best) ill-advised, too late attempt to prevent the car behind from
    passing when that car had in fact already got an overlap, and that that >> lead driver was the RDC member whom I must inform of his suspension?

    So I'm honoured...I guess.

    Given the way you treat people in this group you will relish the duty.
    That comment is far more telling of you than it is of me, you little shit.

    You have treated people poorly in Usenet for decades. You live to insult those who disagree with you. You are truly despicable.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Sun Nov 27 09:09:59 2022
    On 2022-11-27 07:54, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 1:14:41 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-22 07:51, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    ...or did I just draw the short straw? :-)

    The Race Drivers Committee (RDC) of the Sports Car Club of British
    Columbia (SCCBC) met last night for our end-of-season meeting to discuss >>>> issues impacting road racing with the SCCBC (and the other groups who
    run races at our facility), and somehow, I was nominated and accepted to >>>> be the RDC Chairman for 2023.

    It's not that onerous a job (so I'm told), but for this coming season, >>>> we decided as a group that we'd like to see some changes in the way we >>>> hold drivers accountable for on-track incidents, and my very first duty >>>> as chair is going to be writing a letter to one of the RDC to officially >>>> inform him that he has been suspended from the committee for the coming >>>> year, due to a number of on-track incidents that we feel don't meet the >>>> standard of driving that every race driver should meet.

    There's an odd dichotomy about this "sport":

    We all want to compete to one degree or another.

    But we all should also acknowledge that there are lines of
    aggressiveness that we shouldn't cross.

    Even at the highest levels of motorsport, there should never be
    incidents where one driver basically offers the options: "I win, or we >>>> both crash".

    And we saw a little too much of that mentality (probably to a lesser
    degree, but still in the ballpark)—particularly at our last race of the >>>> year.

    The actual incident that I think galvanized us to change our system (in >>>> ways yet to be determined) was between two drivers who were both in the >>>> running to win their class championship, and running 1-2 in the race as >>>> it came near its finish.

    They came up on a car on the exit of turn 9 onto the front straight and >>>> as both moved to lap it the driver behind feinted as if he would go to >>>> the left of the car ahead and then moved over and drove to the right of >>>> the lead car, and the lead car then tried too late to "block" the pass, >>>> ending up with both of them crashing out with the trailing car hitting >>>> the concrete block wall so hard that one of the blocks broken in half. >>>>
    The contact with the wall peeled of the sheet metal door panel from
    right ride side and it went flying into the tech area (where cars are
    safety-checked and weighed) where three of the emeritus members of the >>>> club were sitting as they always do.

    It was only luck that there were no serious injuries, but the car that >>>> hit the wall is almost certainly a complete write-off.

    Need I say that the lead driver was found to be mostly at fault for an >>>> (at best) ill-advised, too late attempt to prevent the car behind from >>>> passing when that car had in fact already got an overlap, and that that >>>> lead driver was the RDC member whom I must inform of his suspension?

    So I'm honoured...I guess.

    Given the way you treat people in this group you will relish the duty.
    That comment is far more telling of you than it is of me, you little shit.

    You have treated people poorly in Usenet for decades. You live to insult those who disagree with you. You are truly despicable.


    As despicable as someone who posts personal information repeatedly, you
    little shit?

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  • From Thomas E.@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Nov 28 07:06:33 2022
    On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 12:10:08 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-27 07:54, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 1:14:41 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-22 07:51, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    ...or did I just draw the short straw? :-)

    The Race Drivers Committee (RDC) of the Sports Car Club of British
    Columbia (SCCBC) met last night for our end-of-season meeting to discuss
    issues impacting road racing with the SCCBC (and the other groups who >>>> run races at our facility), and somehow, I was nominated and accepted to
    be the RDC Chairman for 2023.

    It's not that onerous a job (so I'm told), but for this coming season, >>>> we decided as a group that we'd like to see some changes in the way we >>>> hold drivers accountable for on-track incidents, and my very first duty >>>> as chair is going to be writing a letter to one of the RDC to officially
    inform him that he has been suspended from the committee for the coming >>>> year, due to a number of on-track incidents that we feel don't meet the >>>> standard of driving that every race driver should meet.

    There's an odd dichotomy about this "sport":

    We all want to compete to one degree or another.

    But we all should also acknowledge that there are lines of
    aggressiveness that we shouldn't cross.

    Even at the highest levels of motorsport, there should never be
    incidents where one driver basically offers the options: "I win, or we >>>> both crash".

    And we saw a little too much of that mentality (probably to a lesser >>>> degree, but still in the ballpark)—particularly at our last race of the
    year.

    The actual incident that I think galvanized us to change our system (in >>>> ways yet to be determined) was between two drivers who were both in the >>>> running to win their class championship, and running 1-2 in the race as >>>> it came near its finish.

    They came up on a car on the exit of turn 9 onto the front straight and >>>> as both moved to lap it the driver behind feinted as if he would go to >>>> the left of the car ahead and then moved over and drove to the right of >>>> the lead car, and the lead car then tried too late to "block" the pass, >>>> ending up with both of them crashing out with the trailing car hitting >>>> the concrete block wall so hard that one of the blocks broken in half. >>>>
    The contact with the wall peeled of the sheet metal door panel from >>>> right ride side and it went flying into the tech area (where cars are >>>> safety-checked and weighed) where three of the emeritus members of the >>>> club were sitting as they always do.

    It was only luck that there were no serious injuries, but the car that >>>> hit the wall is almost certainly a complete write-off.

    Need I say that the lead driver was found to be mostly at fault for an >>>> (at best) ill-advised, too late attempt to prevent the car behind from >>>> passing when that car had in fact already got an overlap, and that that >>>> lead driver was the RDC member whom I must inform of his suspension? >>>>
    So I'm honoured...I guess.

    Given the way you treat people in this group you will relish the duty. >> That comment is far more telling of you than it is of me, you little shit.

    You have treated people poorly in Usenet for decades. You live to insult those who disagree with you. You are truly despicable.

    As despicable as someone who posts personal information repeatedly, you little shit?

    LOL! You posted your personal information! There is nothing cited that is not in the public domain, all of it your stuff. Cite one thing that I mentioned that did not originally come from you.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Mon Nov 28 09:49:50 2022
    On 2022-11-28 07:06, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 12:10:08 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-27 07:54, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 1:14:41 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-22 07:51, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, Alan
    wrote:
    ...or did I just draw the short straw? :-)

    The Race Drivers Committee (RDC) of the Sports Car Club of
    British Columbia (SCCBC) met last night for our
    end-of-season meeting to discuss issues impacting road
    racing with the SCCBC (and the other groups who run races
    at our facility), and somehow, I was nominated and accepted
    to be the RDC Chairman for 2023.

    It's not that onerous a job (so I'm told), but for this
    coming season, we decided as a group that we'd like to see
    some changes in the way we hold drivers accountable for
    on-track incidents, and my very first duty as chair is
    going to be writing a letter to one of the RDC to
    officially inform him that he has been suspended from the
    committee for the coming year, due to a number of on-track
    incidents that we feel don't meet the standard of driving
    that every race driver should meet.

    There's an odd dichotomy about this "sport":

    We all want to compete to one degree or another.

    But we all should also acknowledge that there are lines of
    aggressiveness that we shouldn't cross.

    Even at the highest levels of motorsport, there should
    never be incidents where one driver basically offers the
    options: "I win, or we both crash".

    And we saw a little too much of that mentality (probably to
    a lesser degree, but still in the ballpark)—particularly at
    our last race of the year.

    The actual incident that I think galvanized us to change
    our system (in ways yet to be determined) was between two
    drivers who were both in the running to win their class
    championship, and running 1-2 in the race as it came near
    its finish.

    They came up on a car on the exit of turn 9 onto the front
    straight and as both moved to lap it the driver behind
    feinted as if he would go to the left of the car ahead and
    then moved over and drove to the right of the lead car, and
    the lead car then tried too late to "block" the pass,
    ending up with both of them crashing out with the trailing
    car hitting the concrete block wall so hard that one of the
    blocks broken in half.

    The contact with the wall peeled of the sheet metal door
    panel from right ride side and it went flying into the tech
    area (where cars are safety-checked and weighed) where
    three of the emeritus members of the club were sitting as
    they always do.

    It was only luck that there were no serious injuries, but
    the car that hit the wall is almost certainly a complete
    write-off.

    Need I say that the lead driver was found to be mostly at
    fault for an (at best) ill-advised, too late attempt to
    prevent the car behind from passing when that car had in
    fact already got an overlap, and that that lead driver was
    the RDC member whom I must inform of his suspension?

    So I'm honoured...I guess.

    Given the way you treat people in this group you will relish
    the duty.
    That comment is far more telling of you than it is of me, you
    little shit.

    You have treated people poorly in Usenet for decades. You live to
    insult those who disagree with you. You are truly despicable.

    As despicable as someone who posts personal information repeatedly,
    you little shit?

    LOL! You posted your personal information! There is nothing cited
    that is not in the public domain, all of it your stuff. Cite one
    thing that I mentioned that did not originally come from you.

    And you think that collecting it and posting it HERE is the same as
    there being information that can be collected, you Lying Little Shit?

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  • From Thomas E.@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Nov 28 10:26:36 2022
    On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 12:49:53 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-28 07:06, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 12:10:08 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-27 07:54, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 1:14:41 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-22 07:51, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, Alan
    wrote:
    ...or did I just draw the short straw? :-)

    The Race Drivers Committee (RDC) of the Sports Car Club of
    British Columbia (SCCBC) met last night for our
    end-of-season meeting to discuss issues impacting road
    racing with the SCCBC (and the other groups who run races
    at our facility), and somehow, I was nominated and accepted
    to be the RDC Chairman for 2023.

    It's not that onerous a job (so I'm told), but for this
    coming season, we decided as a group that we'd like to see
    some changes in the way we hold drivers accountable for
    on-track incidents, and my very first duty as chair is
    going to be writing a letter to one of the RDC to
    officially inform him that he has been suspended from the
    committee for the coming year, due to a number of on-track
    incidents that we feel don't meet the standard of driving
    that every race driver should meet.

    There's an odd dichotomy about this "sport":

    We all want to compete to one degree or another.

    But we all should also acknowledge that there are lines of
    aggressiveness that we shouldn't cross.

    Even at the highest levels of motorsport, there should
    never be incidents where one driver basically offers the
    options: "I win, or we both crash".

    And we saw a little too much of that mentality (probably to
    a lesser degree, but still in the ballpark)—particularly at
    our last race of the year.

    The actual incident that I think galvanized us to change
    our system (in ways yet to be determined) was between two
    drivers who were both in the running to win their class
    championship, and running 1-2 in the race as it came near
    its finish.

    They came up on a car on the exit of turn 9 onto the front
    straight and as both moved to lap it the driver behind
    feinted as if he would go to the left of the car ahead and
    then moved over and drove to the right of the lead car, and
    the lead car then tried too late to "block" the pass,
    ending up with both of them crashing out with the trailing
    car hitting the concrete block wall so hard that one of the
    blocks broken in half.

    The contact with the wall peeled of the sheet metal door
    panel from right ride side and it went flying into the tech
    area (where cars are safety-checked and weighed) where
    three of the emeritus members of the club were sitting as
    they always do.

    It was only luck that there were no serious injuries, but
    the car that hit the wall is almost certainly a complete
    write-off.

    Need I say that the lead driver was found to be mostly at
    fault for an (at best) ill-advised, too late attempt to
    prevent the car behind from passing when that car had in
    fact already got an overlap, and that that lead driver was
    the RDC member whom I must inform of his suspension?

    So I'm honoured...I guess.

    Given the way you treat people in this group you will relish
    the duty.
    That comment is far more telling of you than it is of me, you
    little shit.

    You have treated people poorly in Usenet for decades. You live to
    insult those who disagree with you. You are truly despicable.

    As despicable as someone who posts personal information repeatedly,
    you little shit?

    LOL! You posted your personal information! There is nothing cited
    that is not in the public domain, all of it your stuff. Cite one
    thing that I mentioned that did not originally come from you.
    And you think that collecting it and posting it HERE is the same as
    there being information that can be collected, you Lying Little Shit?

    LOL! All I have done is asked questions about information that you made available. Questions that if honestly answered would be embarrassing to you. Therefore you choose to deflect rather than answer! Be more careful about what you post all over the
    place. I'm no Sherlock Holmes, this is all obvious! You just need to be smarter.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Mon Nov 28 10:29:04 2022
    On 2022-11-28 10:26, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 12:49:53 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-28 07:06, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 12:10:08 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-27 07:54, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 1:14:41 PM UTC-5, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-11-22 07:51, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, Alan
    wrote:
    ...or did I just draw the short straw? :-)

    The Race Drivers Committee (RDC) of the Sports Car Club
    of British Columbia (SCCBC) met last night for our
    end-of-season meeting to discuss issues impacting road
    racing with the SCCBC (and the other groups who run
    races at our facility), and somehow, I was nominated
    and accepted to be the RDC Chairman for 2023.

    It's not that onerous a job (so I'm told), but for
    this coming season, we decided as a group that we'd
    like to see some changes in the way we hold drivers
    accountable for on-track incidents, and my very first
    duty as chair is going to be writing a letter to one of
    the RDC to officially inform him that he has been
    suspended from the committee for the coming year, due
    to a number of on-track incidents that we feel don't
    meet the standard of driving that every race driver
    should meet.

    There's an odd dichotomy about this "sport":

    We all want to compete to one degree or another.

    But we all should also acknowledge that there are lines
    of aggressiveness that we shouldn't cross.

    Even at the highest levels of motorsport, there should
    never be incidents where one driver basically offers
    the options: "I win, or we both crash".

    And we saw a little too much of that mentality
    (probably to a lesser degree, but still in the
    ballpark)—particularly at our last race of the year.

    The actual incident that I think galvanized us to
    change our system (in ways yet to be determined) was
    between two drivers who were both in the running to win
    their class championship, and running 1-2 in the race
    as it came near its finish.

    They came up on a car on the exit of turn 9 onto the
    front straight and as both moved to lap it the driver
    behind feinted as if he would go to the left of the car
    ahead and then moved over and drove to the right of the
    lead car, and the lead car then tried too late to
    "block" the pass, ending up with both of them crashing
    out with the trailing car hitting the concrete block
    wall so hard that one of the blocks broken in half.

    The contact with the wall peeled of the sheet metal
    door panel from right ride side and it went flying into
    the tech area (where cars are safety-checked and
    weighed) where three of the emeritus members of the
    club were sitting as they always do.

    It was only luck that there were no serious injuries,
    but the car that hit the wall is almost certainly a
    complete write-off.

    Need I say that the lead driver was found to be mostly
    at fault for an (at best) ill-advised, too late attempt
    to prevent the car behind from passing when that car
    had in fact already got an overlap, and that that lead
    driver was the RDC member whom I must inform of his
    suspension?

    So I'm honoured...I guess.

    Given the way you treat people in this group you will
    relish the duty.
    That comment is far more telling of you than it is of me,
    you little shit.

    You have treated people poorly in Usenet for decades. You
    live to insult those who disagree with you. You are truly
    despicable.

    As despicable as someone who posts personal information
    repeatedly, you little shit?

    LOL! You posted your personal information! There is nothing
    cited that is not in the public domain, all of it your stuff.
    Cite one thing that I mentioned that did not originally come from
    you.
    And you think that collecting it and posting it HERE is the same
    as there being information that can be collected, you Lying Little
    Shit?

    LOL! All I have done is asked questions about information that you
    made available.

    You're lying some more, you Lying Little Shit.

    You posted that information HERE.

    You CHOSE to do so.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Thomas E.@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Nov 28 10:33:07 2022
    On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 1:29:07 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-28 10:26, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 12:49:53 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-28 07:06, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 12:10:08 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-27 07:54, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 1:14:41 PM UTC-5, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-11-22 07:51, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, Alan
    wrote:
    ...or did I just draw the short straw? :-)

    The Race Drivers Committee (RDC) of the Sports Car Club
    of British Columbia (SCCBC) met last night for our
    end-of-season meeting to discuss issues impacting road
    racing with the SCCBC (and the other groups who run
    races at our facility), and somehow, I was nominated
    and accepted to be the RDC Chairman for 2023.

    It's not that onerous a job (so I'm told), but for
    this coming season, we decided as a group that we'd
    like to see some changes in the way we hold drivers
    accountable for on-track incidents, and my very first
    duty as chair is going to be writing a letter to one of
    the RDC to officially inform him that he has been
    suspended from the committee for the coming year, due
    to a number of on-track incidents that we feel don't
    meet the standard of driving that every race driver
    should meet.

    There's an odd dichotomy about this "sport":

    We all want to compete to one degree or another.

    But we all should also acknowledge that there are lines
    of aggressiveness that we shouldn't cross.

    Even at the highest levels of motorsport, there should
    never be incidents where one driver basically offers
    the options: "I win, or we both crash".

    And we saw a little too much of that mentality
    (probably to a lesser degree, but still in the
    ballpark)—particularly at our last race of the year.

    The actual incident that I think galvanized us to
    change our system (in ways yet to be determined) was
    between two drivers who were both in the running to win
    their class championship, and running 1-2 in the race
    as it came near its finish.

    They came up on a car on the exit of turn 9 onto the
    front straight and as both moved to lap it the driver
    behind feinted as if he would go to the left of the car
    ahead and then moved over and drove to the right of the
    lead car, and the lead car then tried too late to
    "block" the pass, ending up with both of them crashing
    out with the trailing car hitting the concrete block
    wall so hard that one of the blocks broken in half.

    The contact with the wall peeled of the sheet metal
    door panel from right ride side and it went flying into
    the tech area (where cars are safety-checked and
    weighed) where three of the emeritus members of the
    club were sitting as they always do.

    It was only luck that there were no serious injuries,
    but the car that hit the wall is almost certainly a
    complete write-off.

    Need I say that the lead driver was found to be mostly
    at fault for an (at best) ill-advised, too late attempt
    to prevent the car behind from passing when that car
    had in fact already got an overlap, and that that lead
    driver was the RDC member whom I must inform of his
    suspension?

    So I'm honoured...I guess.

    Given the way you treat people in this group you will
    relish the duty.
    That comment is far more telling of you than it is of me,
    you little shit.

    You have treated people poorly in Usenet for decades. You
    live to insult those who disagree with you. You are truly
    despicable.

    As despicable as someone who posts personal information
    repeatedly, you little shit?

    LOL! You posted your personal information! There is nothing
    cited that is not in the public domain, all of it your stuff.
    Cite one thing that I mentioned that did not originally come from
    you.
    And you think that collecting it and posting it HERE is the same
    as there being information that can be collected, you Lying Little
    Shit?

    LOL! All I have done is asked questions about information that you
    made available.
    You're lying some more, you Lying Little Shit.

    You posted that information HERE.

    You CHOSE to do so.

    I reposted information from you.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Mon Nov 28 10:39:45 2022
    On 2022-11-28 10:33, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 1:29:07 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-28 10:26, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 12:49:53 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-28 07:06, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 12:10:08 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-27 07:54, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 1:14:41 PM UTC-5, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-11-22 07:51, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, Alan
    wrote:
    ...or did I just draw the short straw? :-)

    The Race Drivers Committee (RDC) of the Sports Car Club
    of British Columbia (SCCBC) met last night for our
    end-of-season meeting to discuss issues impacting road
    racing with the SCCBC (and the other groups who run
    races at our facility), and somehow, I was nominated
    and accepted to be the RDC Chairman for 2023.

    It's not that onerous a job (so I'm told), but for
    this coming season, we decided as a group that we'd
    like to see some changes in the way we hold drivers
    accountable for on-track incidents, and my very first
    duty as chair is going to be writing a letter to one of
    the RDC to officially inform him that he has been
    suspended from the committee for the coming year, due
    to a number of on-track incidents that we feel don't
    meet the standard of driving that every race driver
    should meet.

    There's an odd dichotomy about this "sport":

    We all want to compete to one degree or another.

    But we all should also acknowledge that there are lines
    of aggressiveness that we shouldn't cross.

    Even at the highest levels of motorsport, there should
    never be incidents where one driver basically offers
    the options: "I win, or we both crash".

    And we saw a little too much of that mentality
    (probably to a lesser degree, but still in the
    ballpark)—particularly at our last race of the year.

    The actual incident that I think galvanized us to
    change our system (in ways yet to be determined) was
    between two drivers who were both in the running to win
    their class championship, and running 1-2 in the race
    as it came near its finish.

    They came up on a car on the exit of turn 9 onto the
    front straight and as both moved to lap it the driver
    behind feinted as if he would go to the left of the car
    ahead and then moved over and drove to the right of the
    lead car, and the lead car then tried too late to
    "block" the pass, ending up with both of them crashing
    out with the trailing car hitting the concrete block
    wall so hard that one of the blocks broken in half.

    The contact with the wall peeled of the sheet metal
    door panel from right ride side and it went flying into
    the tech area (where cars are safety-checked and
    weighed) where three of the emeritus members of the
    club were sitting as they always do.

    It was only luck that there were no serious injuries,
    but the car that hit the wall is almost certainly a
    complete write-off.

    Need I say that the lead driver was found to be mostly
    at fault for an (at best) ill-advised, too late attempt
    to prevent the car behind from passing when that car
    had in fact already got an overlap, and that that lead
    driver was the RDC member whom I must inform of his
    suspension?

    So I'm honoured...I guess.

    Given the way you treat people in this group you will
    relish the duty.
    That comment is far more telling of you than it is of me,
    you little shit.

    You have treated people poorly in Usenet for decades. You
    live to insult those who disagree with you. You are truly
    despicable.

    As despicable as someone who posts personal information
    repeatedly, you little shit?

    LOL! You posted your personal information! There is nothing
    cited that is not in the public domain, all of it your stuff.
    Cite one thing that I mentioned that did not originally come from
    you.
    And you think that collecting it and posting it HERE is the same
    as there being information that can be collected, you Lying Little
    Shit?

    LOL! All I have done is asked questions about information that you
    made available.
    You're lying some more, you Lying Little Shit.

    You posted that information HERE.

    You CHOSE to do so.

    I reposted information from you.

    How does that change anything?

    Are you familiar with the term "doxxing", you Lying Little Shit?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)