• Re: AirDrop 10-minute limit for Everyone in iOS 16.2

    From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Fri Dec 9 16:20:27 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    nospam wrote:

    Would be nice to have an option to turn off that 10 minute limit for say
    12 hours. I'm thinking of long rides on charter buses, something that's
    pretty common for high school trips where the students like exchanging
    photos, etc..

    fabricated scenario. they do that in other ways, such as imessage,
    instagram, etc.

    I don't use AirDrop, mostly because it's only useful inside the walled
    garden, but one has to wonder why Apple didn't do the decent thing here.

    Apple clearly surrendered to China, at our expense.

    It's either that, or Apple coders don't know selectable time algorithms
    (which even the sophomoric Apple developers should be able to figure out).

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Fri Dec 9 16:24:52 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    Jolly Roger wrote:

    Go ahead and show us verified instances of
    successful Bluetooth attacks against up-to-date iPhones in the wild
    outside of a lab, "smart" guy. Not holding our breaths, because we
    already know you have nothing.

    While the topic is Apple's abject surrender to China at our expense...

    I wonder if Jolly Roger ran a simple search before posting that drivel?
    <https://duckduckgo.com/?q=apple+iphone+bluetooth+vulnerability>

    From the hits, it's pretty clear that Apple has never sufficiently tested Bluetooth for vulnerabilities - since Apple never seems to find the holes.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Fri Dec 9 17:52:06 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    On 2022-12-09, Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:

    Go ahead and show us verified instances of successful Bluetooth
    attacks against up-to-date iPhones in the wild outside of a lab,
    "smart" guy. Not holding our breaths, because we already know you
    have nothing.

    I wonder if Jolly Roger ran a simple search before posting that drivel? <https://duckduckgo.com/?q=apple+iphone+bluetooth+vulnerability>

    As predicted, you can't produce one actual instance of a successful
    Bluetooth attack against up-to-date iPhones in the wild outside of a
    lab, so you resort to posting a web search instead. You and your little
    troll gang are the weakest, most ineffective trolls on Usenet. You're
    all pathetic. : )

    --
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    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Fri Dec 9 20:21:13 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2022-12-09, Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:

    Go ahead and show us verified instances of successful Bluetooth
    attacks against up-to-date iPhones in the wild outside of a lab,
    "smart" guy. Not holding our breaths, because we already know you
    have nothing.

    I wonder if Jolly Roger ran a simple search before posting that drivel?
    <https://duckduckgo.com/?q=apple+iphone+bluetooth+vulnerability>

    As predicted, you can't produce one actual instance of a successful
    Bluetooth attack against up-to-date iPhones in the wild outside of a
    lab, so you resort to posting a web search instead. You and your little
    troll gang are the weakest, most ineffective trolls on Usenet. You're
    all pathetic. : )

    Arlen is famous for posting links that do not support his Absurd Claim Of
    The Day.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Fri Dec 9 21:22:44 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    Jolly Roger wrote:

    As predicted, you can't produce one actual instance of a successful
    Bluetooth attack against up-to-date iPhones in the wild outside of a
    lab, so you resort to posting a web search instead.

    Hi Jolly Roger,

    *It's a fact no smartphone has more zero-day holes than Apple iPhones.*

    It's long been published that even Apple executives deplore how poorly
    Apple software quality control is, where we published Federighi's letter himself sent out to engineering asking them to stop fucking up (e.g., Apple shipped the _same_ zero-day bug twice in two non-consecutive releases!).

    It's also well published Apple coding is so bad that no smart phone on this planet has _more_ zero-day holes than do the latest iOS releases, where the whole world knows Apple _adds_ a new zero day hole in iOS once a month!

    The fact Apple has never in its entire history ever found these published zero-day holes, means Apple can't fix them until _someone else_ tells Apple about them (and only the "good guys" are going to be doing that).

    With Apple's coding well documented to be the absolute _worst_ in the
    world, and with all those bluetooth holes in Apple products, on what basis
    are you so very confident that the current bluetooth holes are all found?

    Bear in mind, no smartphone has more zero day holes than Apple smartphones.

    SUGGESTION: Try to refute that fact, Jolly Roger. See if you can.
    HINT: You can't. Apple is the worst in the entire world, bar none.
    --
    Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
    which, in this case, is to point out how atrocious Apple coding truly is.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Fri Dec 9 13:58:35 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    On 2022-12-09 13:22, Andy Burnelli wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:

    As predicted, you can't produce one actual instance of a successful
    Bluetooth attack against up-to-date iPhones in the wild outside of a
    lab, so you resort to posting a web search instead.

    Hi Jolly Roger,

    *It's a fact no smartphone has more zero-day holes than Apple iPhones.*

    That's not a fact.

    It's an assertion.

    You should look up those words:

    "fact"

    "assertion"


    It's long been published that even Apple executives deplore how poorly
    Apple software quality control is, where we published Federighi's letter himself sent out to engineering asking them to stop fucking up (e.g., Apple shipped the _same_ zero-day bug twice in two non-consecutive releases!).

    And yet you present not a single example...


    It's also well published Apple coding is so bad that no smart phone on this planet has _more_ zero-day holes than do the latest iOS releases, where the whole world knows Apple _adds_ a new zero day hole in iOS once a month!

    You said that already...

    ...and you still haven't provided a single supporting link.


    The fact Apple has never in its entire history ever found these published zero-day holes, means Apple can't fix them until _someone else_ tells Apple about them (and only the "good guys" are going to be doing that).

    Also not a fact.


    With Apple's coding well documented to be the absolute _worst_ in the
    world, and with all those bluetooth holes in Apple products, on what basis are you so very confident that the current bluetooth holes are all found?

    "Well documented"...

    ...but you can't provide an example.

    Got it.


    Bear in mind, no smartphone has more zero day holes than Apple smartphones.

    SUGGESTION: Try to refute that fact, Jolly Roger. See if you can.

    Suggestion: Try to show that it's actually a fact first.

    HINT: You can't. Apple is the worst in the entire world, bar none.

    LOL!

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Sat Dec 10 02:08:06 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    nospam wrote:

    Yeah. Customizable for the user.

    Hopefully we'll see that in a future iOS version.

    Let's leave a feedback in https://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone/ so
    Apple can add it to v16.3 or later.

    don't hold your breath on that. it's not gonna happen.

    I have to admire the naive gullibility of those who actually believed
    Apple's (brilliant) propaganda on privacy, where, in doing so, I must pragmatically echo nospam's sentiment that if Apple already surrendered all your privacy to China, why on earth would Apple give you any options?

    Not gonna happen.

    The fact is Apple whored out your privacy to both Google and to China.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Dec 10 15:39:38 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    On 2022-12-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2022-12-09 13:22, Andy Burnelli wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:

    As predicted, you can't produce one actual instance of a successful
    Bluetooth attack against up-to-date iPhones in the wild outside of a
    lab, so you resort to posting a web search instead.

    Hi Jolly Roger,

    *It's a fact no smartphone has more zero-day holes than Apple
    iPhones.*

    That's not a fact.

    It's an assertion.

    You should look up those words:

    "fact"

    "assertion"

    He doesn't care about words. Like Trump and his lame-brain supporters,
    words are just weapons of hate to sling around without care of their
    actual meanings. Arlen and his little trollboi gang don't care about
    factual and honest discourse. They are happy to make bullshit claims and
    bad faith arguments in order to try to disrupt what would otherwise be
    peaceful and useful newsgroups. They are here for one purpose:
    disruption.

    But with all of his words, Arlen still can't produce one actual instance
    of a successful Bluetooth attack against up-to-date iPhones in the wild
    outside of a lab. Like the rest of them, his troll is a *failure*.

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Dec 10 16:08:57 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    Jolly Roger wrote:

    He doesn't care about words. Like Trump and his lame-brain supporters,
    words are just weapons of hate to sling around without care of their
    actual meanings. Arlen and his little trollboi gang don't care about
    factual and honest discourse. They are happy to make bullshit claims and
    bad faith arguments in order to try to disrupt what would otherwise be peaceful and useful newsgroups. They are here for one purpose:
    disruption.

    But with all of his words, Arlen still can't produce one actual instance
    of a successful Bluetooth attack against up-to-date iPhones in the wild outside of a lab. Like the rest of them, his troll is a *failure*.

    Hi Jolly Roger,

    The observation you hate the facts doesn't change that the facts are facts.

    I don't see anything from the likes of Bob Campbell or Alan Baker or Snit,
    so all I can see is you denying all facts about Apple that you happen to
    hate, which, let's be clear, is a _lot_ of facts that you seem to hate.

    FACT: *No smartphone OS has more zero-day holes than does Apple's iOS!*

    The fact is well known iOS has about a zero-day hole every month for years
    on end, so for you to deny that fact simply means that you hate that fact.

    It's also a fact that Apple has _never_ found any iOS zero-day holes, which
    is another fact you happen to hate simply because that fact _is_ a fact.

    The only metric you can possibly argue is if you find that Android has as
    many or more zero-day holes in the same time period as iOS clearly has had.

    And you can't.
    Hence, given you've denied all facts that you hate about Apple, it's my assertion (based on that observation), that you hate this proven fact:

    *No smartphone operating system has more zero-day holes than does iOS*

    That's just a fact.
    That's just a fact you hate.
    That's just a fact you hate about Apple.

    The observation you hate the facts doesn't change that the facts are facts.
    --
    Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
    which, in this case, is to show the iKooks hate facts about Apple iOS.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Sat Dec 10 16:58:57 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    On 2022-12-09, Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2022-12-09, Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:

    Go ahead and show us verified instances of successful Bluetooth
    attacks against up-to-date iPhones in the wild outside of a lab,
    "smart" guy. Not holding our breaths, because we already know you
    have nothing.

    I wonder if Jolly Roger ran a simple search before posting that
    drivel?
    <https://duckduckgo.com/?q=apple+iphone+bluetooth+vulnerability>

    As predicted, you can't produce one actual instance of a successful
    Bluetooth attack against up-to-date iPhones in the wild outside of a
    lab, so you resort to posting a web search instead. You and your
    little troll gang are the weakest, most ineffective trolls on Usenet.
    You're all pathetic. : )

    Arlen is famous for posting links that do not support his Absurd Claim
    Of The Day.

    He's a boring, old one-trick pony of a troll. He thinks repeating
    bullshit gives it more weight, because he assumes everyone is just as
    gullible and foolish as he is, and will confuse repetition for
    authoritative discussion like he does. He's a pathetic excuse of a human
    being.

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Sat Dec 10 16:53:56 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    On 2022-12-10, Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:

    He doesn't care about words. Like Trump and his lame-brain
    supporters, words are just weapons of hate to sling around without
    care of their actual meanings. Arlen and his little trollboi gang
    don't care about factual and honest discourse. They are happy to make
    bullshit claims and bad faith arguments in order to try to disrupt
    what would otherwise be peaceful and useful newsgroups. They are here
    for one purpose: disruption.

    But with all of his words, Arlen still can't produce one actual
    instance of a successful Bluetooth attack against up-to-date iPhones
    in the wild outside of a lab. Like the rest of them, his troll is a
    *failure*.

    you hate the facts

    You're a one-trick pony, Arlen, continuously repeating the same old,
    tired talking points because you have nothing else to offer. With all of
    your pointless babbling, you still can't produce one actual instance of
    a successful Bluetooth attack against up-to-date iPhones in the wild
    outside of a lab. The claim that leaving Bluetooth enabled on iPhones is supposedly a bad practice is an unwarranted and unproven claim. Nothing
    you have said changes this. You're a pathetic, boring ineffective troll,
    Arlen. You're useless.

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From WolfFan@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Sat Dec 10 14:34:32 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    On Dec 10, 2022, Andy Burnelli wrote
    (in article <tn2aud$11cg$1@gioia.aioe.org>):

    Jolly Roger wrote:

    He doesn't care about words. Like Trump and his lame-brain supporters, words are just weapons of hate to sling around without care of their
    actual meanings. Arlen and his little trollboi gang don't care about factual and honest discourse. They are happy to make bullshit claims and bad faith arguments in order to try to disrupt what would otherwise be peaceful and useful newsgroups. They are here for one purpose:
    disruption.

    But with all of his words, Arlen still can't produce one actual instance
    of a successful Bluetooth attack against up-to-date iPhones in the wild outside of a lab. Like the rest of them, his troll is a *failure*.

    Hi Jolly Roger,

    The observation you hate the facts doesn't change that the facts are facts.

    I don't see anything from the likes of Bob Campbell or Alan Baker or Snit,
    so all I can see is you denying all facts about Apple that you happen to hate, which, let's be clear, is a _lot_ of facts that you seem to hate.

    FACT: *No smartphone OS has more zero-day holes than does Apple's iOS!*

    The fact is well known iOS has about a zero-day hole every month for years
    on end, so for you to deny that fact simply means that you hate that fact.

    It's also a fact that Apple has _never_ found any iOS zero-day holes, which is another fact you happen to hate simply because that fact _is_ a fact.

    The only metric you can possibly argue is if you find that Android has as many or more zero-day holes in the same time period as iOS clearly has had.

    And you can't.
    Hence, given you've denied all facts that you hate about Apple, it's my assertion (based on that observation), that you hate this proven fact:

    *No smartphone operating system has more zero-day holes than does iOS*

    That's just a fact.
    That's just a fact you hate.
    That's just a fact you hate about Apple.

    The observation you hate the facts doesn't change that the facts are facts.

    Interesting. You have failed to produce even one example of the event requested. I suspect that you cannot. I further suspect that most/all of the ‘facts’ that you’re on about cannot be supported by actual events and are, therefore, NOT facts, except in your diseased mind.

    To refute this is simple: produce an example as requested by JR. Just one, fulfilling his stated requirements. I don’t think that you can. I know that you have not, so far, done this.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Dec 10 23:44:57 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    Jolly Roger wrote:

    But I don't expect gullible idiot trolls to understand such nuance. You
    dip shits will take every chance you can get to spread your "Apple: BAD" propaganda you've been spoon fed, like the little gullible fools you are.

    Hi Jolly Roger,

    I wonder if you realize you iKooks can _never_ back up any of your belief systems with reports in the news from _adults_ who believe what you claim?

    Every report in the news says _why_ they believe Apple did it.

    Only you iKooks think otherwise - but you can't find nary a _single_ cite.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Dec 10 23:48:24 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    Jolly Roger wrote:

    You're a one-trick pony,

    Yup. *Facts.*

    That's all I do.

    *Facts*

    HINT: You have no adult defense to facts, JR.

    continuously repeating the same old,
    tired talking points because you have nothing else to offer.

    And yet it's a fact that Pegasus has never infected the Android kernel.
    Pegasus only infects (multiple times in fact) the iOS kernel.

    Why is that a fact, Jolly Roger?

    You're a pathetic, boring ineffective troll,

    And yet you have no _adult_ defense to the fact that iOS is far more
    insecure than Android as measured by the once-a-month zero-day holes.
    --
    Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
    which, in this case, is to point out the many lies by Apple on security.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Dec 10 23:51:30 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    Jolly Roger wrote:

    He's a boring, old one-trick pony of a troll. He thinks repeating
    bullshit gives it more weight, because he assumes everyone is just as gullible and foolish as he is, and will confuse repetition for
    authoritative discussion like he does. He's a pathetic excuse of a human being.

    You _hate_ facts, Jolly Roger.

    What ceases to be shocking are two things always with you iKooks:
    a. You deny all facts you hate, simply _because_ you hate them.
    b. You _never_ come up with news that supports your child-like claims.

    The facts are all that matter:
    A. *No smartphone OS has more zero-day holes than do the iOS smartphones.*
    B. *No smartphone kernel is infected by Pegasus, other than iOS' kernel.*

    Those are facts you hate, but they're still facts even if you hate them.
    --
    Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
    which, in this case, is to point out the facts about iOS security holes.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to WolfFan on Sat Dec 10 23:55:57 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    WolfFan wrote:

    Interesting. You have failed to produce even one example of the event requested. I suspect that you cannot. I further suspect that most/all of the ¡facts¢ that you¢re on about cannot be supported by actual events and
    are, therefore, NOT facts, except in your diseased mind.

    To refute this is simple: produce an example as requested by JR. Just one, fulfilling his stated requirements. I don¢t think that you can. I know that you have not, so far, done this.

    Facts.

    You iKooks _hate_ all facts because of two things:
    a. Your entire belief system isn't based on even a _single_ fact, and,
    b. You iKooks are ignorant of the facts _everyone_ else already knows!

    Hence, I agree with Wolffan that iKooks have not produced a _single_
    reference refuting the extremely well known facts which we discussed with
    cites many times on this ng - and which only iKooks could possibly deny.

    1. No smartphone has more zero-day holes than does iOS
    (On average, iOS adds a new zero-day hole every single month!)
    2. No smartphone kernel is infected by Pegasus spyware other than iOS.
    (The Android kernel has never been infected while iOS has, many times).
    3. Apple has _never_ found these zero-day holes (someone else did!).

    These are facts that are so well known that for an iKook to ask for confirmation is an admission that the iKooks are completely ignorant.

    In fact, that fact is proof the iKooks' entire belief system, isn't
    actually based on _any_ facts - since they're unaware of these facts.
    --
    Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
    which, in this case, is to point out facts the iKooks are unaware of.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sun Dec 11 00:00:19 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    Hank Rogers wrote:

    He has, however, achieved his goal. This is apparent from your
    response. Andy has been around a long time, and very successful.

    Look "Hank Rogers",

    My goal is to point out the facts.
    If you can find even a _single_ fact wrong, then state it.

    Just you claiming all facts you happen to be ignorant of are wrong, isn't
    what an _adult_ does, Hank Rogers.

    It's what the child-like iKooks do.
    Act like an adult.

    A. If you refute a fact that I have stated, look it up first.
    B. We covered _every_ fact I've stated here (many times) in this ng.
    C. Every fact is backed up by numerous media reports.

    For you to refute all facts simply because you don't like them is to prove
    that you too are nothing but a child-like iKooks whose entire belief system
    is based on ignorance.

    Grow up.

    If you want to dispute a fact, google them first:

    *FACT*
    1. No smartphone OS has more zero-day holes than Apple smartphones.
    2. Apple has _never_ found these zero-day holes (someone else did).
    3. Pegasus only infects the iOS kernel - not the Android kernel

    Those are facts.
    If you don't like them, find your own facts to attempt to refute them.

    But do not claim all facts are wrong simply because you are ignorant of
    them or that you hate them - that's what a child does - not an adult.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to WolfFan on Sun Dec 11 01:42:23 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    WolfFan wrote:

    And you still have failed to supply even one example.

    What's no longer shocking is how _litte_ you iKooks know about Apple.
    That almost complete ignorance is (partly) what makes you an iKook.

    We discussed _every_ fact, numerous times, with cites, on this newsgroup.
    That you're completely ignorant of all the facts doesn't make them wrong.
    It just makes you ignorant.

    *FACT*
    1. No smartphone OS has more zero-day holes than Apple smartphones.
    2. Apple has _never_ found these zero-day holes (someone else did).
    3. Pegasus only infects the iOS kernel - not the Android kernel.

    Those are facts.
    Only fools dispute facts (that's why they're fools).

    Do not claim all facts are wrong simply because you are ignorant of
    them or that you hate them - that's what a child does - not an adult.

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  • From WolfFan@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Sat Dec 10 20:16:02 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    On Dec 10, 2022, Andy Burnelli wrote
    (in article <tn36a2$9ea$1@gioia.aioe.org>):

    WolfFan wrote:

    Interesting. You have failed to produce even one example of the event requested. I suspect that you cannot. I further suspect that most/all of the
    �facts� that you�re on about cannot be supported by actual events and are, therefore, NOT facts, except in your diseased mind.

    To refute this is simple: produce an example as requested by JR. Just one, fulfilling his stated requirements. I don�t think that you can. I know that
    you have not, so far, done this.

    Facts.

    You iKooks _hate_ all facts because of two things:
    a. Your entire belief system isn't based on even a _single_ fact, and,
    b. You iKooks are ignorant of the facts _everyone_ else already knows!

    Hence, I agree with Wolffan that iKooks have not produced a _single_ reference refuting the extremely well known facts which we discussed with cites many times on this ng - and which only iKooks could possibly deny.

    1. No smartphone has more zero-day holes than does iOS
    (On average, iOS adds a new zero-day hole every single month!)
    2. No smartphone kernel is infected by Pegasus spyware other than iOS.
    (The Android kernel has never been infected while iOS has, many times).
    3. Apple has _never_ found these zero-day holes (someone else did!).

    These are facts that are so well known that for an iKook to ask for confirmation is an admission that the iKooks are completely ignorant.

    In fact, that fact is proof the iKooks' entire belief system, isn't
    actually based on _any_ facts - since they're unaware of these facts.

    And you still have failed to supply even one example.

    Say bye, now, Arlen. Back to the kill file you go.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to WolfFan on Sun Dec 11 02:31:47 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    On 2022-12-11, WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
    On Dec 10, 2022, Andy Burnelli wrote
    (in article <tn36a2$9ea$1@gioia.aioe.org>):

    WolfFan wrote:

    Interesting. You have failed to produce even one example of the event
    requested. I suspect that you cannot. I further suspect that most/all of the
    �facts� that you�re on about cannot be supported by actual events and
    are, therefore, NOT facts, except in your diseased mind.

    To refute this is simple: produce an example as requested by JR. Just one, >> > fulfilling his stated requirements. I don�t think that you can. I know >> > that
    you have not, so far, done this.

    Facts.

    You iKooks _hate_ all facts because of two things:
    a. Your entire belief system isn't based on even a _single_ fact, and,
    b. You iKooks are ignorant of the facts _everyone_ else already knows!

    Hence, I agree with Wolffan that iKooks have not produced a _single_
    reference refuting the extremely well known facts which we discussed with
    cites many times on this ng - and which only iKooks could possibly deny.

    1. No smartphone has more zero-day holes than does iOS
    (On average, iOS adds a new zero-day hole every single month!)
    2. No smartphone kernel is infected by Pegasus spyware other than iOS.
    (The Android kernel has never been infected while iOS has, many times).
    3. Apple has _never_ found these zero-day holes (someone else did!).

    These are facts that are so well known that for an iKook to ask for
    confirmation is an admission that the iKooks are completely ignorant.

    In fact, that fact is proof the iKooks' entire belief system, isn't
    actually based on _any_ facts - since they're unaware of these facts.

    And you still have failed to supply even one example.

    He's literally a broken record, constantly repeating the same, old,
    tired lines. He's a boring, ineffective troll. His only purpose here is
    to disrupt.

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Dec 11 04:00:33 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    Jolly Roger wrote:

    He's literally a broken record, constantly repeating the same, old,
    tired lines.

    I find it no longer shocking you think all facts about Apple are boring.

    He's a boring, ineffective troll.

    It's no longer shocking you think _all_ facts about Apple are trolls.

    His only purpose here is to disrupt.

    I went to the finest schools in this country, and I worked at the toughest startups in Silicon Valley for decades on end (retiring early from that).

    Hence I've never met people, in the flesh, like you iKooks are, JR.
    a. You have no intellect
    b. You have no education
    c. And you love Apple (because you believe what Apple fed you to believe!)

    You iKooks interest me because I've never met people like you who were told your whole lives that you were stupid - and then you found Apple loves you.

    Apple loves ignorant people like you.
    And in turn, you finally found someone who loves you back, Jolly Roger.

    The observation remains Apple can't make those ungodly profits off of
    normal people - Apple _needs_ people who are exactly like you are, JR.

    Which is why you interest me.
    --
    Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
    which, in this case, is to learn more about how iKooks actually think.

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  • From Snit@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Sun Dec 11 04:32:14 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:

    He's literally a broken record, constantly repeating the same, old,
    tired lines.

    I find it no longer shocking you think all facts about Apple are boring.

    He's a boring, ineffective troll.

    It's no longer shocking you think _all_ facts about Apple are trolls.

    His only purpose here is to disrupt.

    I went to the finest schools in this country, and I worked at the toughest startups in Silicon Valley for decades on end (retiring early from that).

    Hence I've never met people, in the flesh, like you iKooks are, JR.
    a. You have no intellect
    b. You have no education
    c. And you love Apple (because you believe what Apple fed you to believe!)

    You iKooks interest me because I've never met people like you who were told your whole lives that you were stupid - and then you found Apple loves you.

    Apple loves ignorant people like you.
    And in turn, you finally found someone who loves you back, Jolly Roger.

    The observation remains Apple can't make those ungodly profits off of
    normal people - Apple _needs_ people who are exactly like you are, JR.

    Which is why you interest me.

    I like macOS because it serves me better than competing products. The fact
    you do not get that is not relevant.

    --
    Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
    cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
    somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

    They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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