• Re: wall charger needed

    From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sun Jan 22 02:58:03 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Hank Rogers wrote:

    Apple doesn't sell chargers anymore? I know they quit including
    them with their thousand dollar telephones, but now you can't even
    buy them at all?

    The problem with Apple chargers is they're not as good for the price as the other ones that badgolferman stated, both of which I've personally
    purchased and given away as gifts - thanks to Steve telling us about them.

    For one thing, the Apple charger is worthless because it doesn't support QC
    and PD (where any charger that doesn't support both is worthless, IMHO).

    For another, the Apple charger doesn't have anywhere near the port number
    and configuration badgolferman asked for.

    While you're generally understanding of the overall topic strategy, "Hank",
    you whooshed on this one in your attempt to attack nospam's response I
    think.

    In summary...

    I have _both_ chargers badgolferman showed (because Steve recommended them
    on the Apple and Android newsgroups before Christmas, that's why).

    What badgolferman asked for (from memory) was
    USB-A, USB-A, and USB-C

    Neither of those two chargers have that configuration.
    That's why badgolferman is looking for chargers, most likely.

    My advice is to watch out for the long USB-C, USB-C, USB-A charger in his original post because it tends to fall out of a socket with three cords on.

    Also my advice is any charger that doesn't support both PD & QC is
    worthless (which just happens to include all Apple chargers, AFAIK).

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to sms on Sun Jan 22 17:54:40 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    sms wrote:

    There's another big issue with wired charging as well, one that you personally have run into with iPhones (and my son ran into as well):
    failure of the Lightning port as the result of two many cycles of insertion/removal, or other stress. This is the third biggest repair on iPhones after screen replacement and battery replacement and is so
    expensive that most people just trade in their phone.

    Am I the only intelligent adult on this newsgroup or not?

    Did anyone else notice that what Steve said above DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS virtually everything Steve _previously said_ about total ownership cost?

    Point 1: Steve ignored repairs in his total ownership cost spreadsheet.
    Point 2: Steve said Android costs were higher than iPhone costs.
    Point 3: And yet, for repairs, Steve implies iPhone repair costs are high.

    So high, that people trade in their iPhones instead of fixing them.

    Is it just me or are there any other intelligent adults on this ng who also notice that virtually everything from either the iKooks or Steve directly contradicts their own (usually lame) excuses they've used in the past when they're desperately fabricating nonsensical excuses for Apple products?

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Sun Jan 22 21:01:41 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    nospam wrote:

    In addition...
    *Wireless charging is also very _slow_ (compared to wired charging)*

    no it isn't. magsafe is ~15w, for example.

    Hi nospam,

    You're probably correct.

    I'll openly and publicly easily admit I know absolutely nothing about
    magsafe chargers (and yes, I know with your low IQ you'll have a field day
    with that open honest admission - which is how I know you have a low IQ).

    Since I know nothing about magsafe, I'll defer to your judgment on how fast magsafe is on a typical late model iPhone - but _my_ experience with the Qi that Steve recommended is that it's super slow (convenient... but slow).

    Just like badgolferman said it was.

    And in addition to that...
    *Wireless charging effectively permanently eats up one USB-C wall charger*

    nope. a wireless charging pad could use usb-a, usb-c, or be directly connected to mains power or vehicle power. there are also battery packs
    that connect wirelessly.

    Whether or not a 5W USB-A will power any given wireless charger remains to
    be seen, where Steve might have something to say about your claim, nospam.

    And while any given wireless charger _can_ be designed to be powered
    directly from the mains or via 12VDC, most Qi chargers (in fact, all)
    I've seen (at any decent price anyway), are delivered with USB-C cables.

    But the point remains the same that the wireless charger at least "often"
    eats up one of your charging bricks - and it's "often" a USB-C brick.

    My main point was nobody is going to share chargers, period.
    With any device.

    Only you iKooks recommend that BMW sell an expensive car, not only without wheels & tires, but that BMW tells you to use your old tires, even as BMW changed the lug hole arrangement on the wheels (to add glue to the trap).

    But to your point, I'll defer to Steve & to badgolferman as to whether a Qi
    or magsafe charger should be powered by a 5W USB-A brick as you claimed.

    I'm an adult

    many vehemently disagree.

    The way I know you own the brain of a kindergarten kid, nospam, is you take
    all bait (like a dumb mouse with cheese in the trap), fully as expected.

    Your "wit" is that of a child, unfortunately.
    It reveals much about you (as your many 'ftfy' excuses reveal about you).

    You have no _adult_ thought processes, nospam.


    so I commend Steve for what he does well, which is

    trolling.

    It's no longer shocking that you iKooks can't comprehend that I commend
    anyone (Steve or you included - hell - even Alan Baker or Snit!) if they
    say something commendable - just as I criticize them when they do not.

    My assessment of Steve is he's a wannabe in two very important ways:
    a. He's a wannabe Verizon-high-end customer, and,
    b. He's a wannabe Apple iPhone high-end customer.

    In addition, you are fully correct in your assessment of Steve that...
    c. He wants to come across as an expert (as do you, nospam)

    This works to our advantage in some ways, because Steve is effectively a low-end schemer trying to get a high-end product with his many schemes.

    It works to my advantage, as I'm a low to middle end customer who doesn't
    want to go through all the hassles that Steve does to _find_ a good price.

    So when Steve pointed to a good almost free Moto G(7) for free from Google,
    I took him up on that offer, and I benefited from Steve's information.

    Likewise, when Steve pointed to a set of three inexpensive PD & QC USB-C
    and USB-A chargers, I picked up a pack and gave them as stocking stuffers.

    Similarly, when Steve pointed to the one-day-only Amazon-Prime sale on $9
    USB-C + USB-C + USB-A 67 Watt chargers, I took him up on that also.

    In keeping with following Steve's advice, I picked up two of those Qi
    chargers Steve recommended, and that's when I learned they come with USB-C
    to USB-C cables (I had expected them to come with USB-A to USB-C instead).

    I even picked up an HDMI/USB/SD hub that Steve recommended to help someone
    with a high end HDMI-able Samsung to move his data off the memory storage.

    Given how much of Steve's advice I've taken in just the past few months, I would be remiss in not thanking Steve for his wonderful acumen in such
    things.

    You don't understand any of this balance that I have, nospam.
    It's one of the indicators of how I know you own the brain of a child.
    --
    Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
    which, in this case, is to respond to nospam's claims which require proof.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to spam@nospam.com on Sun Jan 22 16:13:09 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    In article <tqk879$6k5$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
    <spam@nospam.com> wrote:


    I'll openly and publicly easily admit I know absolutely nothing

    progress.



    Whether or not a 5W USB-A

    usb-a is capable of more than 5w.


    My main point was nobody is going to share chargers, period.
    With any device.

    covid can do that.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sat Feb 4 17:33:18 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Alan Browne wrote:

    of you to now say that the old way of waiting all night is the way to go.

    I pointed out that for Ant's use case he has do what meets _his_ needs.

    It's no longer shocking how ignorant Alan Browne is, where I believe Ant
    has portrayed "her" character as a "female", which is lost on Alan Browne.

    It's not so much that Alan Browne is stupid (he is, of course, he's
    incredibly stupid), but that Alan has absolutely no capacity to learn.

    As such, *Alan Browne is a _classic_ low-IQ ignorant iKook par excellence!*
    --
    My goal is always twofold on this newsgroup, one of which is to disseminate useful information while being open to learning from others - and the other
    is to expose the despicable ignorant low-IQ iKooks for who they truly are.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Sat Feb 4 20:45:54 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-02-04, Andy Burnelli <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
    nospam wrote:

    But seriously, your phone will likely last longer since the
    Lightning Port is the third most common repair needed on iPhones.

    another unsubstantiated and demonstrably false claim.

    *It doesn't occur to you your counter claims are _also_
    unsubstantiated?*

    It occurs to those of us with brains that *you* made the initial claim
    which is unsubstantiated and unproven, Arlen. And rather than backing up
    your empty words with proof, you are slinging insults like the pathetic man-child you are.

    I've never met people as ignorant as you iKooks are, in my whole life.

    Projection. You can't provide objectively-verified evidence of your
    bullshit assertion that the Lightning port is supposedly the third most
    common repair needed on iPhones, because it is: FALSE.

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
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    JR

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Sat Feb 4 20:16:09 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    nospam wrote:

    But seriously, your phone will likely last longer since the
    Lightning Port is the third most common repair needed on iPhones.

    another unsubstantiated and demonstrably false claim.

    What's obvious about you nospam, is almost every claim by _you_ is unsubstantiated and yet you say Steve's claim is false.

    If Steve didn't substantiate his claim, and since you never substantiated
    your counterclaim, how the heck would _you_ have any basis to say it's
    false?

    You can't.
    You have absolutely no basis for almost _all_ your unsubstantiated claims.

    *The fact you iKooks do this constantly, is how I know you have a low IQ.*

    Whenever you or Alan Browne or Alan Baker or Jolly Roger or Joerg or Chris (what happened to Lewis) make your totally unsubstantiated claims, I have
    to wonder what kind of person you iKooks are who can't figure this out.

    *It doesn't occur to you your counter claims are _also_ unsubstantiated?*

    Everything you write, nospam, proves you are an ignorant person on
    everything that you speak of, and yet, you're so confident in ignorance.

    I've never met people as ignorant as you iKooks are, in my whole life.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Tue Feb 7 01:47:32 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    Jolly Roger wrote:

    It occurs to those of us with brains that *you* made the initial claim
    which is unsubstantiated and unproven, Arlen. And rather than backing up
    your empty words with proof, you are slinging insults like the pathetic man-child you are.

    The batteries in the iPhone are a joke on the (admittedly loyal) customer.

    Are you seriously saying battery chemistry physics is wrong Jolly Roger?
    You never even earned your GED (and you said so in the past), Jolly Roger.

    *The iPhone has el cheapo _laughably puny batteries_, Jolly Roger.*

    You've never taken a single class in physics or chemistry, so how would you
    be able to evaluate the fact that similar chemistry batteries degrade similarly, such that a smaller capacity battery degrades below threshold
    sooner than a larger capacity battery.

    *Apple _wants_ your iPhone battery to age sooner*, Jolly Roger.

    Otherwise Apple wouldn't have cheaped out on those iPhone joke batteries.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Tue Feb 7 03:42:06 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-02-07, Andy Burnelli <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-02-04, Andy Burnelli <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
    nospam wrote:

    But seriously, your phone will likely last longer since the
    Lightning Port is the third most common repair needed on iPhones.

    another unsubstantiated and demonstrably false claim.

    *It doesn't occur to you your counter claims are _also_
    unsubstantiated?*

    It occurs to those of us with brains that *you* made the initial
    claim which is unsubstantiated and unproven, Arlen. And rather than
    backing up your empty words with proof, you are slinging insults like
    the pathetic man-child you are.

    The batteries in the iPhone are a joke

    As is so often the case, you make an unsubstantiated claim (that the
    Lightning Port is supposedly the "third most common repair needed on
    iPhones", then when asked for proof, you fail to back it up with
    evidence, and then follow that up by desperately snipping quoted
    material (restored above for those who, unlike you, prefer FACTUAL
    discourse) and squirming around trying to change the subject in a
    childish attempt to derail the conversation. You're so predictable it's outright boring. You're a pathetic troll, Arlen.

    --
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    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From RonTheGuy@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Mon Feb 6 19:28:53 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On Feb 07, 2023, Andy Burnelli wrote
    (in article<news:trsaj5$3u7v$1@paganini.bofh.team>):

    Jolly Roger wrote:

    It occurs to those of us with brains that *you* made the initial claim
    which is unsubstantiated and unproven, Arlen. And rather than backing up
    your empty words with proof, you are slinging insults like the pathetic
    man-child you are.

    The batteries in the iPhone are a joke on the (admittedly loyal) customer.

    Are you seriously saying battery chemistry physics is wrong Jolly Roger?
    You never even earned your GED (and you said so in the past), Jolly Roger.

    *The iPhone has el cheapo _laughably puny batteries_, Jolly Roger.*

    You've never taken a single class in physics or chemistry, so how would you be able to evaluate the fact that similar chemistry batteries degrade similarly, such that a smaller capacity battery degrades below threshold sooner than a larger capacity battery.

    *Apple _wants_ your iPhone battery to age sooner*, Jolly Roger.

    Otherwise Apple wouldn't have cheaped out on those iPhone joke batteries.

    Why would I care that my iPhone is designed to last half as long as the
    Android phones you speak of that have larger batteries if my iPhone lasts
    for at least until I buy a new one from my carrier at a discounted price?

    Ron, the humblest guy in town.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Mon Feb 6 20:33:15 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-02-06 17:47, Andy Burnelli wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:

    It occurs to those of us with brains that *you* made the initial claim
    which is unsubstantiated and unproven, Arlen. And rather than backing up
    your empty words with proof, you are slinging insults like the pathetic
    man-child you are.

    The batteries in the iPhone are a joke on the (admittedly loyal) customer.

    No... ...they're really not.


    Are you seriously saying battery chemistry physics is wrong Jolly Roger?
    You never even earned your GED (and you said so in the past), Jolly Roger.

     *The iPhone has el cheapo _laughably puny batteries_, Jolly Roger.*

    Really?

    Then you can easily show that by their inferior actual battery life...

    'Best phone battery life at a glance

    Asus ROG Phone 6 Pro: 15:30
    iPhone 14 Pro Max: 13:39
    Moto G Power (2022): 13:15
    OnePlus Nord N300: 13:13 (tie)
    Asus Zenfone 9: 13:13 (tie)
    Nubia RedMagic 6S Pro: 13:13 (tie)
    Moto G Play (2023): 12:54
    Moto G Stylus (2022): 12:30
    Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra: 12:22
    iPhone 14 Plus: 11:57'

    <https://www.tomsguide.com/us/smartphones-best-battery-life,review-2857.html>

    Oh... ...that really didn't work out well for you...

    ...did it?

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to mike on Tue Feb 7 15:43:49 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-02-07, mike <this@address.is.invalid> wrote:

    Look up the difference between daily battery life (measured in hours).
    And useful battery lifetime (measured in years).

    You made the claim, so go ahead and prove your empty words, Arlen - if
    you can. : )

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From mike@21:1/5 to nuh-uh@nope.com on Tue Feb 7 20:47:57 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 07-02-2023 10:03 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    'Best phone battery life at a glance

    Asus ROG Phone 6 Pro: 15:30
    iPhone 14 Pro Max: 13:39
    Moto G Power (2022): 13:15
    OnePlus Nord N300: 13:13 (tie)
    Asus Zenfone 9: 13:13 (tie)
    Nubia RedMagic 6S Pro: 13:13 (tie)
    Moto G Play (2023): 12:54
    Moto G Stylus (2022): 12:30
    Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra: 12:22
    iPhone 14 Plus: 11:57'

    <https://www.tomsguide.com/us/smartphones-best-battery-life,review-2857.html>

    Whooosh.

    Look up the difference between daily battery life (measured in hours).
    And useful battery lifetime (measured in years).

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  • From mike@21:1/5 to nuh-uh@nope.com on Wed Feb 8 00:31:25 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 07-02-2023 10:51 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 07-02-2023 10:03 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    'Best phone battery life at a glance

    Asus ROG Phone 6 Pro: 15:30
    iPhone 14 Pro Max: 13:39
    Moto G Power (2022): 13:15
    OnePlus Nord N300: 13:13 (tie)
    Asus Zenfone 9: 13:13 (tie)
    Nubia RedMagic 6S Pro: 13:13 (tie)
    Moto G Play (2023): 12:54
    Moto G Stylus (2022): 12:30
    Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra: 12:22
    iPhone 14 Plus: 11:57'

    <https://www.tomsguide.com/us/smartphones-best-battery-life,review-2857.html>

    Whooosh.

    Look up the difference between daily battery life (measured in hours).
    And useful battery lifetime (measured in years).

    Produce this alleged data.

    Because I'm betting that you've got none.


    He wasn't talking about daily life which is what I said you whooshed on.
    Now you ask me to prove it again, which makes you even more of an idiot.

    How am I going to "prove" to you, an idiot, that you're an idiot?
    You whooshed. Stop denying it. Else I'm done with you. Idiot.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to mike on Tue Feb 7 10:51:07 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-02-07 07:17, mike wrote:
    On 07-02-2023 10:03 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    'Best phone battery life at a glance

    Asus ROG Phone 6 Pro: 15:30
    iPhone 14 Pro Max: 13:39
    Moto G Power (2022): 13:15
    OnePlus Nord N300: 13:13 (tie)
    Asus Zenfone 9: 13:13 (tie)
    Nubia RedMagic 6S Pro: 13:13 (tie)
    Moto G Play (2023): 12:54
    Moto G Stylus (2022): 12:30
    Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra: 12:22
    iPhone 14 Plus: 11:57'

    <https://www.tomsguide.com/us/smartphones-best-battery-life,review-2857.html>

    Whooosh.

    Look up the difference between daily battery life (measured in hours).
    And useful battery lifetime (measured in years).

    Produce this alleged data.

    Because I'm betting that you've got none.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to mike on Tue Feb 7 11:08:49 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-02-07 11:01, mike wrote:
    On 07-02-2023 10:51 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 07-02-2023 10:03 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    'Best phone battery life at a glance

    Asus ROG Phone 6 Pro: 15:30
    iPhone 14 Pro Max: 13:39
    Moto G Power (2022): 13:15
    OnePlus Nord N300: 13:13 (tie)
    Asus Zenfone 9: 13:13 (tie)
    Nubia RedMagic 6S Pro: 13:13 (tie)
    Moto G Play (2023): 12:54
    Moto G Stylus (2022): 12:30
    Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra: 12:22
    iPhone 14 Plus: 11:57'

    <https://www.tomsguide.com/us/smartphones-best-battery-life,review-2857.html>

    Whooosh.

    Look up the difference between daily battery life (measured in hours).
    And useful battery lifetime (measured in years).

    Produce this alleged data.

    Because I'm betting that you've got none.


    He wasn't talking about daily life which is what I said you whooshed on.
    Now you ask me to prove it again, which makes you even more of an idiot.

    "He" is almost certainly YOU, so that sentence should have started "I
    wasn't".


    How am I going to "prove" to you, an idiot, that you're an idiot?
    You whooshed. Stop denying it. Else I'm done with you. Idiot.

    You made the implicit claim that Apple's iPhones have a significantly
    different "useful battery lifetime"...

    ...so prove it.

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  • From mike@21:1/5 to nuh-uh@nope.com on Wed Feb 8 00:56:01 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 08-02-2023 00:38 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    You made the implicit claim that Apple's iPhones have a significantly different "useful battery lifetime"...

    This is exactly what I said.

    Whooosh.
    Look up the difference between daily battery life (measured in hours).
    And useful battery lifetime (measured in years).

    ...so prove it.

    Did you look it up yet? Do you know the difference yet? Idiot.
    Until you know the difference, nothing you say matters. Idiot.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to mike on Tue Feb 7 21:05:38 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-02-07, mike <this@address.is.invalid> wrote:
    On 08-02-2023 00:38 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    You made the implicit claim that Apple's iPhones have a significantly
    different "useful battery lifetime"...

    This is exactly what I said.

    Whooosh. Look up the difference between daily battery life (measured
    in hours). And useful battery lifetime (measured in years).

    Nah. *You* look it up. Otherwise, you're just full of shit.

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to mike on Tue Feb 7 12:29:17 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-02-07 11:26, mike wrote:
    On 08-02-2023 00:38 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    You made the implicit claim that Apple's iPhones have a significantly
    different "useful battery lifetime"...

    This is exactly what I said.

    Whooosh.
    Look up the difference between daily battery life (measured in hours).
    And useful battery lifetime (measured in years).

    ...so prove it.

    Did you look it up yet? Do you know the difference yet? Idiot.
    Until you know the difference, nothing you say matters. Idiot.

    You're the one claiming that the results would be different, Sunshine.

    Or do you not know what "implicit" means?

    :-)

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to mike on Fri Feb 10 01:01:52 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-02-10 00:55, mike wrote:
    On 07-02-2023 15:29 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    You're the one claiming that the results would be different, Sunshine.

    Until you display an understanding of the difference between hours of
    battery life and years of battery life, nothing you have said matters.
    Idiot.

    I'm asking you to back up your claim that looking at years of battery
    life would change anything.

    Show that Apple's batteries last any shorter than any other manufacturers...

    ...Arlen.

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  • From mike@21:1/5 to nuh-uh@nope.com on Fri Feb 10 14:25:58 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 07-02-2023 15:29 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    You're the one claiming that the results would be different, Sunshine.

    Until you display an understanding of the difference between hours of
    battery life and years of battery life, nothing you have said matters.

    Idiot.

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  • From mike@21:1/5 to nuh-uh@nope.com on Fri Feb 10 20:49:22 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 10-02-2023 14:31 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    I'm asking you to back up your claim that looking at years of battery
    life would change anything.

    Show that Apple's batteries last any shorter than any other manufacturers...

    If you can't comprehend the difference between hours & years then there's, nothing anyone can possibly say to teach an idiot like you what that is.

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  • From mike@21:1/5 to jollyroger@pobox.com on Fri Feb 10 21:37:40 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 10-02-2023 10:56 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    I'm asking you to back up your claim that looking at years of battery
    life would change anything.

    Show that Apple's batteries last any shorter than any other
    manufacturers...

    If you can't comprehend the difference between hours & years then
    there's, nothing anyone can possibly say to teach an idiot like you
    what that is.

    Everyone knows that difference.

    Clearly not.

    Why did the idiot you are backing up post hours of battery performance if
    he understood it's meaningless to compare hours of battery life to years?

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to mike on Fri Feb 10 15:56:18 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-02-10, mike <this@address.is.invalid> wrote:
    On 10-02-2023 14:31 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    I'm asking you to back up your claim that looking at years of battery
    life would change anything.

    Show that Apple's batteries last any shorter than any other
    manufacturers...

    If you can't comprehend the difference between hours & years then
    there's, nothing anyone can possibly say to teach an idiot like you
    what that is.

    Everyone knows that difference. You are so backed into a corner that you
    are desperately and hopelessly stuck on this repetitive line. You are a pathetically weak troll, Arlen.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to mike on Fri Feb 10 10:14:28 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-02-10 07:19, mike wrote:
    On 10-02-2023 14:31 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    I'm asking you to back up your claim that looking at years of battery
    life would change anything.

    Show that Apple's batteries last any shorter than any other
    manufacturers...

    If you can't comprehend the difference between hours & years then there's, nothing anyone can possibly say to teach an idiot like you what that is.

    I can comprehend it just fine, Arlen.

    What I can also comprehend is that now that we agree the subject is life
    of the battery in terms of YEARS, you don't want to actually produce any reference that shows Apple's batteries are any worse than anyone else's.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to mike on Fri Feb 10 10:34:54 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-02-10 08:07, mike wrote:
    On 10-02-2023 10:56 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    I'm asking you to back up your claim that looking at years of battery
    life would change anything.

    Show that Apple's batteries last any shorter than any other
    manufacturers...

    If you can't comprehend the difference between hours & years then
    there's, nothing anyone can possibly say to teach an idiot like you
    what that is.

    Everyone knows that difference.

    Clearly not.

    Why did the idiot you are backing up post hours of battery performance if
    he understood it's meaningless to compare hours of battery life to years?

    Arlen...

    I was specifically addressing this sentence in my first reply:

    '*The iPhone has el cheapo _laughably puny batteries_, Jolly Roger.*'

    Which is clearly about battery SIZE (i.e. capacity), not longevity

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to mike on Fri Feb 10 20:06:53 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-02-10, mike <this@address.is.invalid> wrote:
    On 10-02-2023 10:56 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    I'm asking you to back up your claim that looking at years of battery
    life would change anything.

    Show that Apple's batteries last any shorter than any other
    manufacturers...

    If you can't comprehend the difference between hours & years then
    there's, nothing anyone can possibly say to teach an idiot like you
    what that is.

    Everyone knows that difference.

    Clearly not.

    Oh, definitely.

    Why did the idiot you are backing up post hours of battery performance

    The original idiot troll didn't specify whether they meant runtime
    versus total lifetime.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Feb 10 20:10:04 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-02-10, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-02-10 08:07, mike wrote:
    On 10-02-2023 10:56 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    I'm asking you to back up your claim that looking at years of
    battery life would change anything.

    Show that Apple's batteries last any shorter than any other
    manufacturers...

    If you can't comprehend the difference between hours & years then
    there's, nothing anyone can possibly say to teach an idiot like you
    what that is.

    Everyone knows that difference.

    Clearly not.

    Why did the idiot you are backing up post hours of battery
    performance if he understood it's meaningless to compare hours of
    battery life to years?

    Arlen...

    I was specifically addressing this sentence in my first reply:

    '*The iPhone has el cheapo _laughably puny batteries_, Jolly Roger.*'

    Which is clearly about battery SIZE (i.e. capacity), not longevity

    Arlen *always* squirms around and tries to move the goal post when
    confronted, like the huge man-child he is. He's fucking pathetic.

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