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Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote

Microsoft claims Apple said no due to pressure by Google.

Sensible logic implies otherwise... as Apple isn't the type of company to succumb to "pressure" (as even Meta couldn't sway Apple, for example).

If you read any article about Apple's incestuous relationship with Google
(and vice versa), the word "lucrative" shows up tellingly.

Given that Google is Apple's biggest customer (as far as I remember), and
that Apple sold its users' privacy to Google (who is Apple's biggest
customer), I'd say that greed was the reason and not "pressure" by M$.

This is not to say Microsoft isn't greedy (they are), nor is it to say that Google isn't as greedy as is Apple (they are too); but just that Apple's reasons likely had more to do with how much they made from the Google deal.

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Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote

Apple famously has a highly lucrative deal with Google.

It's lucrative for both sides or Google wouldn't write the cheques.

IAC Safari on iPhone allows whatever search engine you like - mine is
set to DDG.

Mac also allows whatever SE you like ..

Can you switch the iOS default browser to the most private Tor Browser?

Oh... sorry... nevermind... you can't.
On macOS you can though.

But not on iOS as real privacy just simply isn't possible on iOS.

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badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote

This is not to say Microsoft isn't greedy (they are), nor is it to say that >> Google isn't as greedy as is Apple (they are too); but just that Apple's
reasons likely had more to do with how much they made from the Google deal. >>

According to what I've seen here Apple has the purest of intentions, never lies, values your privacy, makes the best hardware and software, and hates capitalism. How could you equate Apple to Google and Microsoft? Your Name will have a conniption!

I can't disagree with you that Apple is Jesus himself incarnated, born of
the Virgin and incapable of sinning in the name of their investors behalf.

You don't even have to believe me as Apple will tell it to you straight.

Apple said in Your Name's own .macrumors reference, and I quote
"‌Eddy Cue‌ this week had to testify in the trial, and he explained
why Google is the ‌iPhone‌'s default search engine. "We make Google
be the default search engine because we've always thought it was
the best," Cue said. He went on to say that Apple has not gone
with another search engine provider because there is no
"valid alternative."

See? *No money involved.*

Apple went with Google purely because "we always thought it was the best." Plus. "There is no valid alternative" to Google's search engine.

*Nothing about money here*.

Nor any mention about selling Apple users' privacy to the highest bidder.
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I prefer to discuss topics on the Apple Usenet newsgroups at the level
an adult would appreciate and not at the level of the child-like iKooks.

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Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote

Microsoft claims Apple said no due to pressure by Google.

Sensible logic implies otherwise... as Apple isn't the type of company to succumb to "pressure" (as even Meta couldn't sway Apple, for example).

If you read any article about Apple's incestuous relationship with Google (and vice versa), the word "lucrative" shows up tellingly.

Given that Google is Apple's biggest customer (as far as I remember), and that Apple sold its users' privacy to Google (who is Apple's biggest customer), I'd say that greed was the reason and not "pressure" by M$.

This is not to say Microsoft isn't greedy (they are), nor is it to say that Google isn't as greedy as is Apple (they are too); but just that Apple's reasons likely had more to do with how much they made from the Google deal.

According to what I’ve seen here Apple has the purest of intentions, never lies, values your privacy, makes the best hardware and software, and hates capitalism. How could you equate Apple to Google and Microsoft? Your Name
will have a conniption!

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On 2023-10-06 12:45, Wally J wrote:

Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote

Apple famously has a highly lucrative deal with Google.

It's lucrative for both sides or Google wouldn't write the cheques.

IAC Safari on iPhone allows whatever search engine you like - mine is
set to DDG.

Mac also allows whatever SE you like ..

Can you switch the iOS default browser to the most private Tor Browser?

Oh... sorry... nevermind... you can't.
On macOS you can though.

But not on iOS as real privacy just simply isn't possible on iOS.

So suddenly it's not about search engines, Arlen?

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On 2023-10-06 13:37, badgolferman wrote:

Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote

Microsoft claims Apple said no due to pressure by Google.

Sensible logic implies otherwise... as Apple isn't the type of company to
succumb to "pressure" (as even Meta couldn't sway Apple, for example).

If you read any article about Apple's incestuous relationship with Google
(and vice versa), the word "lucrative" shows up tellingly.

Given that Google is Apple's biggest customer (as far as I remember), and
that Apple sold its users' privacy to Google (who is Apple's biggest
customer), I'd say that greed was the reason and not "pressure" by M$.

This is not to say Microsoft isn't greedy (they are), nor is it to say that >> Google isn't as greedy as is Apple (they are too); but just that Apple's
reasons likely had more to do with how much they made from the Google deal. >>

According to what I’ve seen here Apple has the purest of intentions, never lies, values your privacy, makes the best hardware and software, and hates capitalism. How could you equate Apple to Google and Microsoft? Your Name will have a conniption!

Try not to be an ass...

...well, that ship's long-since sailed.

Try not to be as big an ass as Arlen.

Apple is a for-profit company that believes there is value in selling
physical products and letting its customers know they aren't in the
business of selling their data.

I can go into Safari and change my default search from Google...

...to Yahoo...

...to Bing...

...to DuckDuckGo...

...to Ecosia.

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