There's a myth that Macs don't get viruses - but it's just that: a myth.
AVG Antivirus for Mac works in realtime to detect and remove Mac-
specific malware. We'll also keep you safe from online threats, like malicious websites, emails, and downloads.
=
The above statement is a bold claim, made here:- https://ibb.co/MZpBy63
The claim is supported by Trend Micro. Screenshot - https://ibb.co/Zm7DnRY
=
Does anyone reading here know the REAL truth of the matter?
I wonder!
On Mar 22, 2023 at 3:00:19 AM PDT, "David Brooks" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
There's a myth that Macs don't get viruses - but it's just that: a
myth.
I think you mean an "extreme rarity". The myth is, as stated by most Windows-centric loyalists, that Macs get viruses. They don't.
AVG Antivirus for Mac works in realtime to detect and remove Mac-
specific malware. We'll also keep you safe from online threats, like
malicious websites, emails, and downloads.
Malware isn't usually considered a virus.
On 2023-03-22, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
On Mar 22, 2023 at 3:00:19 AM PDT, "David Brooks" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> >> wrote:
The vast majority of macOS malware in the wild today are in the form of *trojans*: apps that pretend to be legitimate apps - typically pirated
copies of commercial apps, or third-party apps downloaded from unsavory
paces like CNET Downloads, VersionTracker, or MacUpdate with installers
that have been stealthily modified by those download services to bundle malware with them.
And the majority of such macOS trojan malware is *adware* that modifies
the behavior of web browsers to spy on your browsing behavior and inject
ads into pages displayed by the web browser.
And *all* of them require the user to be tricked into *interactively* downloading and installing them, as well as *interactively* entering administrator credentials when prompted, to successfully infect a target
Mac. In other words, they all rely on simple *social engineering* to work.
On 3/22/23 6:40 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
SNIP
The vast majority of macOS malware in the wild today are in the form
of *trojans*: apps that pretend to be legitimate apps - typically
pirated copies of commercial apps, or third-party apps downloaded
from unsavory paces like CNET Downloads, VersionTracker, or MacUpdate
with installers that have been stealthily modified by those download
services to bundle malware with them.
And the majority of such macOS trojan malware is *adware* that
modifies the behavior of web browsers to spy on your browsing
behavior and inject ads into pages displayed by the web browser.
And *all* of them require the user to be tricked into *interactively*
downloading and installing them, as well as *interactively* entering
administrator credentials when prompted, to successfully infect a
target Mac. In other words, they all rely on simple *social
engineering* to work.
CNET unsavory? I thought it's a safe, reputable site.
On 2023-03-23, Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> wrote:
CNET unsavory? I thought it's a safe, reputable site.
You should *always* download Mac software directly from the app
developer's website or from the App Store.
There's a myth that Macs don't get viruses - but it's just that: a myth.
AVG Antivirus for Mac works in realtime to detect and remove Mac-
specific malware. We'll also keep you safe from online threats, like malicious websites, emails, and downloads.
Am 22.03.23 um 11:00 schrieb David Brooks:
There's a myth that Macs don't get viruses - but it's just that: a myth.
AVG Antivirus for Mac works in realtime to detect and remove Mac-
specific malware. We'll also keep you safe from online threats, like
malicious websites, emails, and downloads.
Total bullshit.
On 2023-03-23, Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> wrote:
On 3/22/23 6:40 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
SNIP
The vast majority of macOS malware in the wild today are in the form
of *trojans*: apps that pretend to be legitimate apps - typically
pirated copies of commercial apps, or third-party apps downloaded
from unsavory paces like CNET Downloads, VersionTracker, or MacUpdate
with installers that have been stealthily modified by those download
services to bundle malware with them.
And the majority of such macOS trojan malware is *adware* that
modifies the behavior of web browsers to spy on your browsing
behavior and inject ads into pages displayed by the web browser.
And *all* of them require the user to be tricked into *interactively*
downloading and installing them, as well as *interactively* entering
administrator credentials when prompted, to successfully infect a
target Mac. In other words, they all rely on simple *social
engineering* to work.
CNET unsavory? I thought it's a safe, reputable site.
VersionTracker, MacUpdate, and CNET Downloads regularly modify
installers of software they make available for download by adding advertisements and bundling adware with it:
<https://www.howtogeek.com/198622/heres-what-happens-when-you-install-the-top-10-download.com-apps/>
<https://www.engadget.com/2010-09-08-versiontracker-com-officially-absorbed-by-cnet.html?guccounter=1>
<https://mjtsai.com/blog/2015/11/04/macupdate-adware-installers/> <https://www.thesafemac.com/has-macupdate-fallen-to-the-adware-plague/>
It's a despicable practice, but it's how they make money, so there's no
sign it will stop. So I always advise people to avoid getting software
from download sites like this. I've even seen malware being bundled with legitimate titles from MacUpdate:
<https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2018/02/new-mac-cryptominer-distributed-via-a-macupdate-hack>
You should *always* download Mac software directly from the app
developer's website or from the App Store.
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does or
doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in California!
In article <%wdTL.290159$mmyc.73867@fx37.iad>, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does or
doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in California!
they do not do that, nor can they do that.
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does or
doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in California!
they do not do that, nor can they do that.
Yes, they can!
Who put *XProtectPayloads* there if not Apple itself?
Am 23.03.23 um 17:45 schrieb Jolly Roger:
On 2023-03-23, Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> wrote:
CNET unsavory? I thought it's a safe, reputable site.
You should *always* download Mac software directly from the app
developer's website or from the App Store.
+1
In article <%wdTL.290159$mmyc.73867@fx37.iad>, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does or
doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in California!
they do not do that, nor can they do that.
On 24/03/2023 06:48, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 22.03.23 um 11:00 schrieb David Brooks:
AVG Antivirus for Mac works in realtime to detect and remove Mac-
specific malware. We'll also keep you safe from online threats, like
malicious websites, emails, and downloads.
Total bullshit.
Possibly.
Tell me, Joerg, if you do not use some form of AV software on your
Mac, how would you, as the computer user, KNOW that your machine had
been compromised?
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does or
doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in California!
On 24/03/2023 13:11, nospam wrote:
In article <%wdTL.290159$mmyc.73867@fx37.iad>, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does
or doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in California!
they do not do that, nor can they do that.
Yes, they can!
If you look in System Settings > System Report > System Information > Software > Installations > Software Name
You should see this:- https://ibb.co/2ccpz2P
Who put *XProtectPayloads* there if not Apple itself?
In article <VhjTL.1223941$Tcw8.1217522@fx10.iad>, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does or
doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in California!
they do not do that, nor can they do that.
Yes, they can!
no they cannot.
Who put *XProtectPayloads* there if not Apple itself?
vladimir putin did.
On 2023-03-24, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 24/03/2023 13:11, nospam wrote:
In article <%wdTL.290159$mmyc.73867@fx37.iad>, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does
or doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in California!
they do not do that, nor can they do that.
Yes, they can!
If you look in System Settings > System Report > System Information >
Software > Installations > Software Name
You should see this:- https://ibb.co/2ccpz2P
Who put *XProtectPayloads* there if not Apple itself?
XProtect is part of macOS's built-in malware protection. It's literally
part of the operating system, dumb dumb.
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does or >>>> doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in California!
they do not do that, nor can they do that.
Yes, they can!
no they cannot.
They can - and they *DO*.
On 2023-03-24, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 24/03/2023 06:48, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 22.03.23 um 11:00 schrieb David Brooks:
AVG Antivirus for Mac works in realtime to detect and remove Mac-
specific malware. We'll also keep you safe from online threats, like
malicious websites, emails, and downloads.
Total bullshit.
Possibly.
Tell me, Joerg, if you do not use some form of AV software on your
Mac, how would you, as the computer user, KNOW that your machine had
been compromised?
macOS has built-in protection from malware, dummy. And I'm sure you've
been told this numerous times.
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does or
doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in California!
Apple isn't monitoring what runs on your Mac.
In article <ExpTL.1228631$8_id.132805@fx09.iad>, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
macOS most certainly does have built-in protection.
unlike your parents.
macOS most certainly does have built-in protection.
On 24/03/2023 17:49, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-03-24, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 24/03/2023 06:48, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 22.03.23 um 11:00 schrieb David Brooks:
AVG Antivirus for Mac works in realtime to detect and remove Mac-
specific malware. We'll also keep you safe from online threats,
like malicious websites, emails, and downloads.
Total bullshit.
Possibly.
Tell me, Joerg, if you do not use some form of AV software on your
Mac, how would you, as the computer user, KNOW that your machine had
been compromised?
macOS has built-in protection from malware, dummy. And I'm sure
you've been told this numerous times.
macOS most certainly does have built-in protection.
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does
or doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in California!
Apple isn't monitoring what runs on your Mac.
Yes, dummy, it *IS*!
On 24/03/2023 16:09, nospam *LIED*
In article <VhjTL.1223941$Tcw8.1217522@fx10.iad>, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does
or doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in
California!
they do not do that, nor can they do that.
Yes, they can!
no they cannot.
They can - and they *DO*.
Who put *XProtectPayloads* there if not Apple itself?
vladimir putin did.
Other readers are able to see your lies. <shrug>
You haven't helped anyone by spreading misinformation.
On 24/03/2023 17:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-03-24, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 24/03/2023 13:11, nospam wrote:
In article <%wdTL.290159$mmyc.73867@fx37.iad>, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does
or doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in
California!
they do not do that, nor can they do that.
Yes, they can!
If you look in System Settings > System Report > System Information
Software > Installations > Software Name
You should see this:- https://ibb.co/2ccpz2P
Who put *XProtectPayloads* there if not Apple itself?
XProtect is part of macOS's built-in malware protection. It's
literally part of the operating system, dumb dumb.
XProtect is ADDED to macOS
The user of the computer, if it is connected to the Internet, has no
control over HOW apple manipulates the operating system.
HTH
On 2023-03-24, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 24/03/2023 17:49, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-03-24, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 24/03/2023 06:48, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 22.03.23 um 11:00 schrieb David Brooks:
AVG Antivirus for Mac works in realtime to detect and remove Mac-
specific malware. We'll also keep you safe from online threats,
like malicious websites, emails, and downloads.
Total bullshit.
Possibly.
Tell me, Joerg, if you do not use some form of AV software on your
Mac, how would you, as the computer user, KNOW that your machine had
been compromised?
macOS has built-in protection from malware, dummy. And I'm sure
you've been told this numerous times.
macOS most certainly does have built-in protection.
Yet you continually post bullshit about third-party malware protection
here. Strange, that.
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does
or doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in California!
Apple isn't monitoring what runs on your Mac.
Yes, dummy, it *IS*!
Nope. Your Mac monitors what is running on it to look for malware all on
its own, without Apple's servers being involved (other than to update
the malware list when you install security updates).
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
You haven't helped anyone by spreading misinformation.
That is his intention.
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <ExpTL.1228631$8_id.132805@fx09.iad>, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
macOS most certainly does have built-in protection.
unlike your parents.
lol
On 24/03/2023 20:22, nospam wrote:
In article <_pnTL.1630499$iS99.190910@fx16.iad>, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what
does or
doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in California!
they do not do that, nor can they do that.
Yes, they can!
no they cannot.
They can - and they *DO*.
they cannot, nor is that even a realistic option if they could.
*PROOF* that Apple recetly *DID* do just that!
//Apple has just released an update to XProtect Remediator security
software for Macs running Catalina or later, bringing it to version 93. Version 92 doesn’t appear to have been released.
Apple doesn’t release information about what security issues this update might add or change. However, it adds one new scanning module, for
malware identified as FloppyFlipper, a name that draws a complete blank elsewhere.
You can check whether this update has been installed by opening System Information via About This Mac, and selecting the Installations item
under Software.//
https://eclecticlight.co/2023/03/16/apple-has-just-released-an-update-to-xprotect-remediator-2/
In article <_pnTL.1630499$iS99.190910@fx16.iad>, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does or >>>>>> doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in California!
they do not do that, nor can they do that.
Yes, they can!
no they cannot.
They can - and they *DO*.
they cannot, nor is that even a realistic option if they could.
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does or >>>>>> doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in California!
they do not do that, nor can they do that.
Yes, they can!
no they cannot.
They can - and they *DO*.
they cannot, nor is that even a realistic option if they could.
*PROOF* that Apple recetly *DID* do just that!
//Apple has just released an update to XProtect Remediator security
software for Macs running Catalina or later, bringing it to version 93. Version 92 doesnt appear to have been released.
There's a myth that Macs don't get viruses - but it's just that: a myth.
AVG Antivirus for Mac works in realtime to detect and remove Mac-
specific malware. We'll also keep you safe from online threats, like malicious websites, emails, and downloads.
=
The above statement is a bold claim, made here:- https://ibb.co/MZpBy63
The claim is supported by Trend Micro. Screenshot - https://ibb.co/Zm7DnRY
=
Does anyone reading here know the REAL truth of the matter?
I wonder!
On 25/03/2023 01:51, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-03-24, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 24/03/2023 17:49, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-03-24, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 24/03/2023 06:48, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 22.03.23 um 11:00 schrieb David Brooks:
AVG Antivirus for Mac works in realtime to detect and remove
Mac- specific malware. We'll also keep you safe from online
threats, like malicious websites, emails, and downloads.
Total bullshit.
Possibly.
Tell me, Joerg, if you do not use some form of AV software on your
Mac, how would you, as the computer user, KNOW that your machine
had been compromised?
macOS has built-in protection from malware, dummy. And I'm sure
you've been told this numerous times.
macOS most certainly does have built-in protection.
Yet you continually post bullshit about third-party malware
protection here. Strange, that.
It's mostly about ClamXAV. I believe it to be a scam.
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does
or doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in
California!
Apple isn't monitoring what runs on your Mac.
Yes, dummy, it *IS*!
Nope. Your Mac monitors what is running on it to look for malware all
on its own, without Apple's servers being involved (other than to
update the malware list when you install security updates).
If you look in System Settings > System Report > System Information > Software > Installations > Software Name
You should see this:- https://ibb.co/2ccpz2P
Who put *XProtectPayloads* there if not Apple itself?
No user interaction is necessary nor required.
On 25/03/2023 02:02, Sn!pe wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
You haven't helped anyone by spreading misinformation.
That is his intention.
You are 100% wrong about that, Snippy!
Don't spread misinformation.
They're right. Macs are no longer immune from online threats.
My Mac has received two threats this week, saying Apple would delete
my iCloud files if it didn't supply my credit card info.
On 24/03/2023 20:22, nospam wrote:
In article <_pnTL.1630499$iS99.190910@fx16.iad>, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what
does or doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in
California!
they do not do that, nor can they do that.
Yes, they can!
no they cannot.
They can - and they *DO*.
they cannot, nor is that even a realistic option if they could.
*PROOF* that Apple recetly *DID* do just that!
//Apple has just released an update to XProtect Remediator security
software for Macs running Catalina or later, bringing it to version
93. Version 92 doesn’t appear to have been released.
Apple doesn’t release information about what security issues this
update might add or change. However, it adds one new scanning module,
for malware identified as FloppyFlipper, a name that draws a complete
blank elsewhere.
You can check whether this update has been installed by opening System Information via About This Mac, and selecting the Installations item
under Software.//
https://eclecticlight.co/2023/03/16/apple-has-just-released-an-update-to-xprotect-remediator-2/
On 2023-03-25, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
My Mac has received two threats this week, saying Apple would delete
my iCloud files if it didn't supply my credit card info.
It's best not to confuse simple phishing messages that are harmless as
long as you ignore them with actual security threats.
On 3/25/23 1:25 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-03-25, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:Imagine how embarrassed you'd be if I'd corrected your spelling of
My Mac has received two threats this week, saying Apple would delete
my iCloud files if it didn't supply my credit card info.
It's best not to confuse simple phishing messages that are harmless
as long as you ignore them with actual security threats.
"fishing."
Fortunately, I looked it up. "Phishing" is a real word, so I won't
embarrass you.
These guys emailed me to inform me that my card had expired. That
turned out to be true, so I knew they were on the level and provided
my new security code. If they'd lied and said it hadn't expired, I
would have ignored them as I do actual security threats.
On 2023-03-25, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 25/03/2023 01:51, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-03-24, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 24/03/2023 17:49, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-03-24, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 24/03/2023 06:48, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 22.03.23 um 11:00 schrieb David Brooks:
AVG Antivirus for Mac works in realtime to detect and remove
Mac- specific malware. We'll also keep you safe from online
threats, like malicious websites, emails, and downloads.
Total bullshit.
Possibly.
Tell me, Joerg, if you do not use some form of AV software on your >>>>>> Mac, how would you, as the computer user, KNOW that your machine
had been compromised?
macOS has built-in protection from malware, dummy. And I'm sure
you've been told this numerous times.
macOS most certainly does have built-in protection.
Yet you continually post bullshit about third-party malware
protection here. Strange, that.
It's mostly about ClamXAV. I believe it to be a scam.
This thread is about AVG, and neither one is a scam.
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does >>>>>> or doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in
California!
Apple isn't monitoring what runs on your Mac.
Yes, dummy, it *IS*!
Nope. Your Mac monitors what is running on it to look for malware all
on its own, without Apple's servers being involved (other than to
update the malware list when you install security updates).
If you look in System Settings > System Report > System Information >
Software > Installations > Software Name
You should see this:- https://ibb.co/2ccpz2P
Who put *XProtectPayloads* there if not Apple itself?
No user interaction is necessary nor required.
What part of "XProtect is part of the operating system" did you not understand, dumbass?
On 25/03/2023 17:16, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-03-25, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 25/03/2023 01:51, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-03-24, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
macOS most certainly does have built-in protection.
Yet you continually post bullshit about third-party malware
protection here. Strange, that.
It's mostly about ClamXAV. I believe it to be a scam.
This thread is about AVG, and neither one is a scam.
This thread is about whether or not Apple computers should be using third-party anti-malware software.
The overwhelming consensus on the Apple Support Communities forums is
that such software is *NOT* required.
Who put *XProtectPayloads* there if not Apple itself?
No user interaction is necessary nor required.
What part of "XProtect is part of the operating system" did you not
understand, dumbass?
The XProtect *PAYLOADS* are additional software packages
issued by Apple which are loaded onto all Apple Macs connected to the Internet.
The user has no choice in the matter!
One simply has to hope that Apple are working in the best interests of
its customers.
HTH HAND
On 2023-03-26, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 25/03/2023 17:16, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-03-25, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 25/03/2023 01:51, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-03-24, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
macOS most certainly does have built-in protection.
Yet you continually post bullshit about third-party malware
protection here. Strange, that.
It's mostly about ClamXAV. I believe it to be a scam.
This thread is about AVG, and neither one is a scam.
This thread is about whether or not Apple computers should be using
third-party anti-malware software.
The overwhelming consensus on the Apple Support Communities forums is
that such software is *NOT* required.
And yet you continue to ask this dumb question over and over for
*years*. Strange, that...
Who put *XProtectPayloads* there if not Apple itself?
No user interaction is necessary nor required.
What part of "XProtect is part of the operating system" did you not
understand, dumbass?
The XProtect *PAYLOADS* are additional software packages
No they are not software packages. They are not executable and do
nothing on their own. Stop lying.
issued by Apple which are loaded onto all Apple Macs connected to the
Internet.
Software updates are also issued by Apple and loaded onto all Macs over
the internet, but strangely you're not complaining about those.
The user has no choice in the matter!
Wrong, as I already told you. Users can disable security updates in
System Preferences if they wish, but that would be an extremely *dumb*
thing to do.
One simply has to hope that Apple are working in the best interests of
its customers.
If you don't trust Apple, nobody is stopping you from using something
else made by some other company. Then you can bitch and moan about
hoping that company works in your best interests.
HTH HAND
You aren't trying to help anyone with your bullshit.
The user
of the computer, if it is connected to the Internet, has no control over
HOW apple manipulates the operating system.
On 26/03/2023 15:54, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-03-26, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
The overwhelming consensus on the Apple Support Communities forums
is that such software is *NOT* required.
And yet you continue to ask this dumb question over and over for
*years*. Strange, that...
You agree that AV software is NOT necessary?
Yet you claim that www.clamXAV.com is *NOT a scam.
How do you rationalsise that?
Who put *XProtectPayloads* there if not Apple itself?
No user interaction is necessary nor required.
What part of "XProtect is part of the operating system" did you not
understand, dumbass?
The XProtect *PAYLOADS* are additional software packages
No they are not software packages. They are not executable and do
nothing on their own. Stop lying.
How would YOU describe them?
issued by Apple which are loaded onto all Apple Macs connected to
the Internet.
Software updates are also issued by Apple and loaded onto all Macs
over the internet, but strangely you're not complaining about those.
I do not have to install THOSE Updates!
The user has no choice in the matter!
Wrong, as I already told you. Users can disable security updates in
System Preferences if they wish, but that would be an extremely
*dumb* thing to do.
*HOW* does one prevent Apple changing the XProtectPayloads?
Current Version: 93
Source: Apple
Install Date: 17/03/2023, 08:05
(I happily accept all changes made in my own best interests)
One simply has to hope that Apple are working in the best interests of
its customers.
If you don't trust Apple, nobody is stopping you from using something
else made by some other company. Then you can bitch and moan about
hoping that company works in your best interests.
HTH HAND
You aren't trying to help anyone with your bullshit.
I *DO* trust Apple. I do *NOT* trust ClamXAV.
Then why are you so concerned about disabling them, dumbass?
You are totally at the mercy of every software vendor - hope that helps top up
your paranoia.
On 24 Mar 2023 at 21:05:32 GMT, "David Brooks" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
The user
of the computer, if it is connected to the Internet, has no control over
HOW apple manipulates the operating system.
Do you not install updates, on trust, for all the software on your devices? Whether o/s or apps?
You are totally at the mercy of every software vendor - hope that helps top up
your paranoia.
Am 24.03.23 um 14:11 schrieb nospam:
In article <%wdTL.290159$mmyc.73867@fx37.iad>, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does or
doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in California!
they do not do that, nor can they do that.
Is DB again smoking funny stuff?
On 24/03/2023 14:29, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 24.03.23 um 14:11 schrieb nospam:
In article <%wdTL.290159$mmyc.73867@fx37.iad>, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does or
doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in California!
they do not do that, nor can they do that.
Is DB again smoking funny stuff?
DB copied a question which was posted on the Apple Support Communities website!
Evidence? Yes, here:- https://ibb.co/JvK59hS
Do *YOU* use anti-malware software on YOUR Apple computer?
If not, *your machine may have already been compromised*!
Read here if you don't believe me! https://www.clamxav.com
On 24/03/2023 14:29, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Is DB again smoking funny stuff?
DB copied a question which was posted on the Apple Support Communities website!
Evidence? Yeas, here:- https://ibb.co/JvK59hS
Do *YOU* use anti-malware software on YOUR Apple computer?
If not, *your machine may have already been compromised*!
Read here if you don't believe me! https://www.clamxav.com
Am 02.04.23 um 14:09 schrieb David Brooks:
On 24/03/2023 14:29, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Is DB again smoking funny stuff?
DB copied a question which was posted on the Apple Support Communities
website!
Evidence? Yeas, here:- https://ibb.co/JvK59hS
Do *YOU* use anti-malware software on YOUR Apple computer?
If not, *your machine may have already been compromised*!
Read here if you don't believe me! https://www.clamxav.com
Judge and hangman are the same person ...
On 02/04/2023 17:47, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 02.04.23 um 14:09 schrieb David Brooks:
On 24/03/2023 14:29, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Is DB again smoking funny stuff?
DB copied a question which was posted on the Apple Support Communities
website!
Evidence? Yeas, here:- https://ibb.co/JvK59hS
Do *YOU* use anti-malware software on YOUR Apple computer?
If not, *your machine may have already been compromised*!
Read here if you don't believe me! https://www.clamxav.com
Judge and hangman are the same person ...
Why does that stop you answering my question?
"Do *YOU* use anti-malware software on YOUR Apple computer?"
Am 02.04.23 um 19:47 schrieb David Brooks:
On 02/04/2023 17:47, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 02.04.23 um 14:09 schrieb David Brooks:
On 24/03/2023 14:29, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Is DB again smoking funny stuff?
DB copied a question which was posted on the Apple Support Communities >>>> website!
Evidence? Yeas, here:- https://ibb.co/JvK59hS
Do *YOU* use anti-malware software on YOUR Apple computer?
If not, *your machine may have already been compromised*!
Read here if you don't believe me! https://www.clamxav.com
Judge and hangman are the same person ...
Why does that stop you answering my question?
"Do *YOU* use anti-malware software on YOUR Apple computer?"
Yes. Open Source and free:
*Brain 1.0*
On 02/04/2023 21:04, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 02.04.23 um 19:47 schrieb David Brooks:
On 02/04/2023 17:47, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 02.04.23 um 14:09 schrieb David Brooks:
On 24/03/2023 14:29, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Is DB again smoking funny stuff?
DB copied a question which was posted on the Apple Support Communities >>>>> website!
Evidence? Yeas, here:- https://ibb.co/JvK59hS
Do *YOU* use anti-malware software on YOUR Apple computer?
If not, *your machine may have already been compromised*!
Read here if you don't believe me! https://www.clamxav.com
Judge and hangman are the same person ...
Why does that stop you answering my question?
"Do *YOU* use anti-malware software on YOUR Apple computer?"
Yes. Open Source and free:
*Brain 1.0*
Hmmm! I wonder just HOW clever you are!
Have you /any/ idea what each of these configurations actually *DO*?
https://ibb.co/WHq98V0
If so, please share. TIA.
On 02/04/2023 21:04, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 02.04.23 um 19:47 schrieb David Brooks:
On 02/04/2023 17:47, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 02.04.23 um 14:09 schrieb David Brooks:
On 24/03/2023 14:29, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Is DB again smoking funny stuff?
DB copied a question which was posted on the Apple Support Communities >>>>> website!
Evidence? Yeas, here:- https://ibb.co/JvK59hS
Do *YOU* use anti-malware software on YOUR Apple computer?
If not, *your machine may have already been compromised*!
Read here if you don't believe me! https://www.clamxav.com
Judge and hangman are the same person ...
Why does that stop you answering my question?
"Do *YOU* use anti-malware software on YOUR Apple computer?"
Yes. Open Source and free:
*Brain 1.0*
Hmmm! I wonder just HOW clever you are!
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