• M3 M3-Pro M3-Max ... but ...

    From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 30 21:24:44 2023
    ... only the M3 in the iMac capped at 24 GB of RAM.

    ... so ordered (24 GB + 2TB). Should be here next week.

    This old i7 HT quad core will be moved to the side for some mundane tasks.

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  • From gtr@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 05:57:57 2023
    On Oct 30, 2023 at 6:24:44 PM PDT, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:


    ... only the M3 in the iMac capped at 24 GB of RAM.

    ... so ordered (24 GB + 2TB). Should be here next week.

    This old i7 HT quad core will be moved to the side for some mundane tasks.

    Lucky you! Sounds like another significant advance and an excellent time to
    buy in.

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  • From Bud Frede@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Tue Oct 31 06:46:15 2023
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> writes:

    ... only the M3 in the iMac capped at 24 GB of RAM.

    ... so ordered (24 GB + 2TB). Should be here next week.



    MOAR POWER! :-)

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Bud Frede on Tue Oct 31 09:07:26 2023
    On 2023-10-31 06:46, Bud Frede wrote:
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> writes:

    ... only the M3 in the iMac capped at 24 GB of RAM.

    ... so ordered (24 GB + 2TB). Should be here next week.



    MOAR POWER! :-)

    I would have preferred the M3 Pro and 48 GB of RAM, but realistically,
    this will be more than sufficient for the next 10 years.

    And finally I'll have a Mac OS that is compatible with iOS features (esp
    in Notes) that I want to use.

    The WiFi on this iMac died about 4 months ago, so file drop doesn't work
    - nice to have that back.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to gtr on Tue Oct 31 09:08:19 2023
    On 2023-10-31 01:57, gtr wrote:
    On Oct 30, 2023 at 6:24:44 PM PDT, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:


    ... only the M3 in the iMac capped at 24 GB of RAM.

    ... so ordered (24 GB + 2TB). Should be here next week.

    This old i7 HT quad core will be moved to the side for some mundane tasks.

    Lucky you! Sounds like another significant advance and an excellent time to buy in.

    I'm not super pleased with the iMac M3 only and less memory, but it will do.

    Planning the migration now ...

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  • From gtr@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 1 02:38:36 2023
    On Oct 31, 2023 at 6:07:26 AM PDT, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    On 2023-10-31 06:46, Bud Frede wrote:
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> writes:

    ... only the M3 in the iMac capped at 24 GB of RAM.

    ... so ordered (24 GB + 2TB). Should be here next week.



    MOAR POWER! :-)

    I would have preferred the M3 Pro and 48 GB of RAM, but realistically,
    this will be more than sufficient for the next 10 years.

    And finally I'll have a Mac OS that is compatible with iOS features (esp
    in Notes) that I want to use.

    The WiFi on this iMac died about 4 months ago, so file drop doesn't work
    - nice to have that back.

    What kind of work do you do that demands 48G?

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  • From gtr@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 1 02:36:21 2023
    On Oct 30, 2023 at 6:24:44 PM PDT, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:


    ... only the M3 in the iMac capped at 24 GB of RAM.

    ... so ordered (24 GB + 2TB). Should be here next week.

    This old i7 HT quad core will be moved to the side for some mundane tasks.

    Lucky you! Sounds like another significant advance and an excellent time to
    buy in.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to gtr on Wed Nov 1 19:15:07 2023
    On 2023-11-01 02:36:21 +0000, gtr said:
    On Oct 30, 2023 at 6:24:44 PM PDT, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    ... only the M3 in the iMac capped at 24 GB of RAM.

    ... so ordered (24 GB + 2TB). Should be here next week.

    This old i7 HT quad core will be moved to the side for some mundane tasks.

    Lucky you! Sounds like another significant advance and an excellent time to buy in.

    Except the M4 will be out in June 2025. ;-)

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  • From Bud Frede@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Wed Nov 1 06:48:17 2023
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> writes:

    On 2023-10-31 06:46, Bud Frede wrote:
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> writes:

    ... only the M3 in the iMac capped at 24 GB of RAM.

    ... so ordered (24 GB + 2TB). Should be here next week.

    MOAR POWER! :-)

    I would have preferred the M3 Pro and 48 GB of RAM, but realistically,
    this will be more than sufficient for the next 10 years.

    And finally I'll have a Mac OS that is compatible with iOS features
    (esp in Notes) that I want to use.

    The WiFi on this iMac died about 4 months ago, so file drop doesn't
    work - nice to have that back.

    AirDrop is one of those features that I know exists (after all, I have
    an icon in the sidebar of the Finder for it), but I've never really used
    much. I'm not sure why, but it just doesn't occur to me to use it.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Wed Nov 1 14:13:53 2023
    On 2023-11-01, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    I'm also a fan of Ramdisks when processing video files from format to
    format. I currently have a Ramdisk that can go up to 12GB. Happily
    it only takes as much memory as it needs (doesn't "block" 12 GB - only
    what is needed for the files "in it").

    Which RAM disk solution are you using for that?

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Bud Frede on Wed Nov 1 10:04:43 2023
    On 2023-11-01 06:48, Bud Frede wrote:
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> writes:

    On 2023-10-31 06:46, Bud Frede wrote:
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> writes:

    ... only the M3 in the iMac capped at 24 GB of RAM.

    ... so ordered (24 GB + 2TB). Should be here next week.

    MOAR POWER! :-)

    I would have preferred the M3 Pro and 48 GB of RAM, but realistically,
    this will be more than sufficient for the next 10 years.

    And finally I'll have a Mac OS that is compatible with iOS features
    (esp in Notes) that I want to use.

    The WiFi on this iMac died about 4 months ago, so file drop doesn't
    work - nice to have that back.

    AirDrop is one of those features that I know exists (after all, I have
    an icon in the sidebar of the Finder for it), but I've never really used much. I'm not sure why, but it just doesn't occur to me to use it.

    It's very useful in many situations such that once you're used to it you
    miss it when it can't be used.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to gtr on Wed Nov 1 09:54:00 2023
    On 2023-10-31 22:38, gtr wrote:
    On Oct 31, 2023 at 6:07:26 AM PDT, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    On 2023-10-31 06:46, Bud Frede wrote:
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> writes:

    ... only the M3 in the iMac capped at 24 GB of RAM.

    ... so ordered (24 GB + 2TB). Should be here next week.



    MOAR POWER! :-)

    I would have preferred the M3 Pro and 48 GB of RAM, but realistically,
    this will be more than sufficient for the next 10 years.

    And finally I'll have a Mac OS that is compatible with iOS features (esp
    in Notes) that I want to use.

    The WiFi on this iMac died about 4 months ago, so file drop doesn't work
    - nice to have that back.

    What kind of work do you do that demands 48G?

    I wrote "preferred", not "demand".

    Video editing with multiple inputs uses a lot of memory.

    I'm also a fan of Ramdisks when processing video files from format to
    format. I currently have a Ramdisk that can go up to 12GB. Happily it
    only takes as much memory as it needs (doesn't "block" 12 GB - only what
    is needed for the files "in it").

    Finally, as I keep computers for a long time, I like margin against
    future app growth.

    24 GB is adequate. 32 would have been sweet.

    But it appears that Apple are 'chunking' memory in 24 GB increments
    (probably due to supplier options).

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Wed Nov 1 11:12:43 2023
    On 2023-11-01 10:39, Alan Browne wrote:

    diskutil erasevolume HFS+ 'Ramdisk' `hdiutil attach -nomount
    ram://25165824`

    Above for 12 GiB (512 byte chunks in the last parameter.

    Pro: does not allocate memory until needed.

    Con: does not de-allocate as files are deleted.  So at some point you
    have to eject the drive and re-mount to recover.  It should re-use
    available space in the RD, but I'm not 100% sure.

    Just tested that - so if one erases a file, and empties the trash, then
    adding more files re-uses that space w/o allocating more memory.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Nov 1 10:39:57 2023
    On 2023-11-01 10:13, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-11-01, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    I'm also a fan of Ramdisks when processing video files from format to
    format. I currently have a Ramdisk that can go up to 12GB. Happily
    it only takes as much memory as it needs (doesn't "block" 12 GB - only
    what is needed for the files "in it").

    Which RAM disk solution are you using for that?

    Pretty sure I've told you about this in the past, here.

    diskutil erasevolume HFS+ 'Ramdisk' `hdiutil attach -nomount ram://25165824`

    Above for 12 GiB (512 byte chunks in the last parameter.

    Pro: does not allocate memory until needed.

    Con: does not de-allocate as files are deleted. So at some point you
    have to eject the drive and re-mount to recover. It should re-use
    available space in the RD, but I'm not 100% sure.

    (I have a program running in BG which has a thread to monitor the
    ramdisk and if it disappears, it executes the command above).

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Thu Nov 2 05:49:28 2023
    On 2023-11-01, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-11-01 10:39, Alan Browne wrote:

    diskutil erasevolume HFS+ 'Ramdisk' `hdiutil attach -nomount
    ram://25165824`

    Above for 12 GiB (512 byte chunks in the last parameter.

    Pro: does not allocate memory until needed.

    Con: does not de-allocate as files are deleted.  So at some point you
    have to eject the drive and re-mount to recover.  It should re-use
    available space in the RD, but I'm not 100% sure.

    Just tested that - so if one erases a file, and empties the trash, then adding more files re-uses that space w/o allocating more memory.

    🙂👍🏼

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Thu Nov 2 08:22:40 2023
    On 2023-11-02 01:49, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-11-01, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-11-01 10:13, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-11-01, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    I'm also a fan of Ramdisks when processing video files from format to
    format. I currently have a Ramdisk that can go up to 12GB. Happily
    it only takes as much memory as it needs (doesn't "block" 12 GB - only >>>> what is needed for the files "in it").

    Which RAM disk solution are you using for that?

    Pretty sure I've told you about this in the past, here.

    Probably, but I definitely forgot. 🙂

    I looked back. You participated in the thread but you weren't the
    reply-to where I put up the example. (2016).

    diskutil erasevolume HFS+ 'Ramdisk' `hdiutil attach -nomount ram://25165824` >>
    Above for 12 GiB (512 byte chunks in the last parameter.

    Pro: does not allocate memory until needed.

    Con: does not de-allocate as files are deleted. So at some point you
    have to eject the drive and re-mount to recover. It should re-use
    available space in the RD, but I'm not 100% sure.

    (I have a program running in BG which has a thread to monitor the
    ramdisk and if it disappears, it executes the command above).

    Thanks. I wasn't aware hdiutil RAM disks behaved that way. That's very
    nice default behavior.

    It's a good compromise. On Windows it blocked up the memory, so one
    tended to use small ram disks. Also a PITA to set up and a PITA to
    remove. (WinXP (?)). No idea today.

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