https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/03/usb-hubs-printers-java-and-more-seemingly-broken-by-macos-14-4-update/ :(
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https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/03/usb-hubs-printers-java-and-more-seemingly-broken-by-macos-14-4-update/ :(
Am 19.03.24 um 19:36 schrieb Ant:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/03/usb-hubs-printers-java-and-more-seemingly-broken-by-macos-14-4-update/ :(
Everything works perfectly here on 2 Silicons and one Intel T-2.
Was that a near miss? ;-)
On 2024-03-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
:(
All of our USB hubs, printers, and more are working just fine with
multiple different model Macs running 14.4. What are we doing wrong?
Rather than being a gullible rube who blindly believes every sensational clickbait hit piece you read, you may want to consider that the people
who post these articles have a monetary interest in making relatively
small issues appear to be larger and more wide spread than they actually
are - because getting more clicks literally makes them more money.
On 2024-03-20 00:41, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-03-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
:(
All of our USB hubs, printers, and more are working just fine with
multiple different model Macs running 14.4. What are we doing wrong?
Rather than being a gullible rube who blindly believes every
sensational clickbait hit piece you read, you may want to consider
that the people who post these articles have a monetary interest in
making relatively small issues appear to be larger and more wide
spread than they actually are - because getting more clicks literally
makes them more money.
Ars Technica is fairly respectable. The author of the article states
that his machine was not affected but others are affected (with links
to Apple and reddit).
On 2024-03-20, OrangeFish <OrangeFish@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-03-20 00:41, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-03-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
:(
All of our USB hubs, printers, and more are working just fine with
multiple different model Macs running 14.4. What are we doing wrong?
Rather than being a gullible rube who blindly believes every
sensational clickbait hit piece you read, you may want to consider
that the people who post these articles have a monetary interest in
making relatively small issues appear to be larger and more wide
spread than they actually are - because getting more clicks literally
makes them more money.
Ars Technica is fairly respectable. The author of the article states
that his machine was not affected but others are affected (with links
to Apple and reddit).
I didn't claim there is no issue - just that media has an incentive to sensationalize it. Even Ars Technica wants more clicks, because it
literally pays their bills. And it's a well-known fact that news about
Apple gets clicks, and negative news about Apple gets the most clicks.
BTW, the OP, Ant, posted about this with a frowny face - but I can
virtually guarantee you he isn't having these problems on his own Macs.
On 20/03/2024 23:40, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-03-20, OrangeFish <OrangeFish@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-03-20 00:41, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-03-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
:(
All of our USB hubs, printers, and more are working just fine with
multiple different model Macs running 14.4. What are we doing wrong?
Rather than being a gullible rube who blindly believes every
sensational clickbait hit piece you read, you may want to consider
that the people who post these articles have a monetary interest in
making relatively small issues appear to be larger and more wide
spread than they actually are - because getting more clicks literally
makes them more money.
Ars Technica is fairly respectable. The author of the article states
that his machine was not affected but others are affected (with links
to Apple and reddit).
I didn't claim there is no issue - just that media has an incentive to
sensationalize it. Even Ars Technica wants more clicks, because it
literally pays their bills. And it's a well-known fact that news about
Apple gets clicks, and negative news about Apple gets the most clicks.
BTW, the OP, Ant, posted about this with a frowny face - but I can
virtually guarantee you he isn't having these problems on his own Macs.
Can you explain why the gurus on the Apple Support Communities forums
are absolutely adamant that there is no requirement for anti-malware
software on an Apple computer?
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-03-20, OrangeFish <OrangeFish@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-03-20 00:41, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-03-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
:(
All of our USB hubs, printers, and more are working just fine with
multiple different model Macs running 14.4. What are we doing wrong?
Rather than being a gullible rube who blindly believes every
sensational clickbait hit piece you read, you may want to consider
that the people who post these articles have a monetary interest in
making relatively small issues appear to be larger and more wide
spread than they actually are - because getting more clicks literally
makes them more money.
Ars Technica is fairly respectable. The author of the article states
that his machine was not affected but others are affected (with links
to Apple and reddit).
I didn't claim there is no issue - just that media has an incentive to
sensationalize it. Even Ars Technica wants more clicks, because it
literally pays their bills. And it's a well-known fact that news about
Apple gets clicks, and negative news about Apple gets the most clicks.
BTW, the OP, Ant, posted about this with a frowny face - but I can
virtually guarantee you he isn't having these problems on his own Macs.
TBF Oracle themselves are advising against updating to 14.4. There's a detailed explanation here, apparently there was quite a significant change after the release candidate: https://blogs.oracle.com/java/post/java-on-macos-14-4
On 2024-03-20 00:41, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-03-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
:(
All of our USB hubs, printers, and more are working just fine with
multiple different model Macs running 14.4. What are we doing wrong?
Rather than being a gullible rube who blindly believes every sensational
clickbait hit piece you read, you may want to consider that the people
who post these articles have a monetary interest in making relatively
small issues appear to be larger and more wide spread than they actually
are - because getting more clicks literally makes them more money.
Ars Technica is fairly respectable. The author of the article states
that his machine was not affected but others are affected (with links to Apple and reddit). For example, there is a long thread on this problem
at Apple: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255518397 . One person claims that a fix from Apple is coming in 14.4.1.
On 2024-03-20 18:07, OrangeFish wrote:
On 2024-03-20 00:41, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-03-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
:(
All of our USB hubs, printers, and more are working just fine with
multiple different model Macs running 14.4. What are we doing wrong?
Rather than being a gullible rube who blindly believes every
sensational clickbait hit piece you read, you may want to consider
that the people who post these articles have a monetary interest in
making relatively small issues appear to be larger and more wide
spread than they actually are - because getting more clicks
literally makes them more money.
Ars Technica is fairly respectable. The author of the article states
that his machine was not affected but others are affected (with links
to Apple and reddit). For example, there is a long thread on this
problem at Apple: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255518397 .
One person claims that a fix from Apple is coming in 14.4.1.
Adding to JR's comment: announcements from AT or other sources are amplification. If there are 2 or 3 reports of an issue, they report
it and 10's of thousands (or millions) of people read it. That
doesn't make for 10's of thousands (or millions) of affected users.
I've yet to see AT or the other similar sites (all of whom do add
value to our pursuit of computer happiness) put out article headlines
like:
Mac OS 14.x has been out for 96 hours and not a single issue
has been reported.
Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 21.03.24 20:18, Chris wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-03-20, OrangeFish <OrangeFish@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-03-20 00:41, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-03-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
:(
All of our USB hubs, printers, and more are working just fine with >>>>>> multiple different model Macs running 14.4. What are we doing wrong? >>>>>>
Rather than being a gullible rube who blindly believes every
sensational clickbait hit piece you read, you may want to consider >>>>>> that the people who post these articles have a monetary interest in >>>>>> making relatively small issues appear to be larger and more wide
spread than they actually are - because getting more clicks literally >>>>>> makes them more money.
Ars Technica is fairly respectable. The author of the article states >>>>> that his machine was not affected but others are affected (with links >>>>> to Apple and reddit).
I didn't claim there is no issue - just that media has an incentive to >>>> sensationalize it. Even Ars Technica wants more clicks, because it
literally pays their bills. And it's a well-known fact that news about >>>> Apple gets clicks, and negative news about Apple gets the most clicks. >>>>
BTW, the OP, Ant, posted about this with a frowny face - but I can
virtually guarantee you he isn't having these problems on his own Macs. >>>>
TBF Oracle themselves are advising against updating to 14.4. There's a
detailed explanation here, apparently there was quite a significant change >>> after the release candidate:
https://blogs.oracle.com/java/post/java-on-macos-14-4
Oracle is not really a relevant source for a decision to avoid or
execute Mac-updates. They should try to get their act together.
Eh, what? Oracle own Java. They're the most relevant source of information for java issues.
On 22.03.24 09:06, Chris wrote:
Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 21.03.24 20:18, Chris wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-03-20, OrangeFish <OrangeFish@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-03-20 00:41, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-03-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
:(
All of our USB hubs, printers, and more are working just fine with >>>>>>> multiple different model Macs running 14.4. What are we doing wrong? >>>>>>>
Rather than being a gullible rube who blindly believes every
sensational clickbait hit piece you read, you may want to consider >>>>>>> that the people who post these articles have a monetary interest in >>>>>>> making relatively small issues appear to be larger and more wide >>>>>>> spread than they actually are - because getting more clicks literally >>>>>>> makes them more money.
Ars Technica is fairly respectable. The author of the article states >>>>>> that his machine was not affected but others are affected (with links >>>>>> to Apple and reddit).
I didn't claim there is no issue - just that media has an incentive to >>>>> sensationalize it. Even Ars Technica wants more clicks, because it
literally pays their bills. And it's a well-known fact that news about >>>>> Apple gets clicks, and negative news about Apple gets the most clicks. >>>>>
BTW, the OP, Ant, posted about this with a frowny face - but I can
virtually guarantee you he isn't having these problems on his own Macs. >>>>>
TBF Oracle themselves are advising against updating to 14.4. There's a >>>> detailed explanation here, apparently there was quite a significant change >>>> after the release candidate:
https://blogs.oracle.com/java/post/java-on-macos-14-4
Oracle is not really a relevant source for a decision to avoid or
execute Mac-updates. They should try to get their act together.
Eh, what? Oracle own Java. They're the most relevant source of information >> for java issues.
I did not say anything else. Learn to read and understand. Oracle is irrelevant for Mac-users.
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