• A DEC vt420 display failure

    From Jason McBrayer@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 26 10:43:29 2023
    Hello, all. About a year ago, I bought a DEC vt420 in working condition
    on the well-known auction site. After sorting out all of the required connectors, it worked great as a terminal for my bog-standard Linux box.

    Last week, it suffered a display failure. I had been compiling Emacs,
    and the build messages were happily scrolling down the screen, when I
    went away for a bit to do something else. When I looked back, the screen
    was dark. That would have been normal, but the little screen-saver
    spinner in the bottom right wasn't visible, and the display wouldn't
    come back.

    After turning it off and back on again, it displayed the startup
    patterns fine (a few different plaid-like patterns of filled blocks over
    the whole screen), and made the feep it makes on a successful
    startup. However, the screen remained blank, instead of showing the
    "vt420 OK" text dialog as normal. Pressing F3 brings up a little bit of
    the setup menu, quite distorted, in the very bottom left of the screen.

    I'm not a hardware guy, so I'm not sure what to do here. My default plan
    is to list it on the big auction site as "for parts or repair" and let
    it go to someone who can fix it and use it or resell it. But if it is
    something really simple (recapping?) I might want to do it myself.

    Any suggestions (or anyone want to buy it)?

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to jmcbray@carcosa.net on Sat Aug 26 14:59:57 2023
    Jason McBrayer <jmcbray@carcosa.net> wrote:

    I'm not a hardware guy, so I'm not sure what to do here. My default plan
    is to list it on the big auction site as "for parts or repair" and let
    it go to someone who can fix it and use it or resell it. But if it is >something really simple (recapping?) I might want to do it myself.

    So, you know you have a serious sweep problem, or else a power supply
    issue. (Power supply issues can look like all kinds of other problems
    and should be the first thing to be checked.)

    1. Don't turn it on until it's fixed. IF the flyback is okay, you want to
    keep it that way.

    2. Find a tech and have him fix it. All kinds of things can go wrong with these terminals, and if it has the original electrolytics in it, you are
    likely to have a failure with collateral damage caused by a leaky electrolytic. Then again, you might just have a dirty pot.

    I can't teach you how to do basic monitor diagnosis yourself online, but
    these things are easy to work on, and parts (except for the flyback) are standard and readily available.

    3. In the future don't power up old monitors without having them checked
    out on the bench first. The VT220 is the absolute worst; there is one
    bipolar electrolytic which has a very high peak voltage across it and
    which consequently is prone to failure. Unfortunately when it fails,
    it throws DC on the flyback and it burns up almost instantly. Stuff like
    this needs to be fixed -before- collateral damage occurs. The VR270
    has similar issues where the emitter resistor on the sweep transistor
    goes up in value and takes the flyback out.

    Anybody who can work on 1970s TV sets will have no problem working on these things.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Jason McBrayer@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Tue Aug 29 09:01:06 2023
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:

    So, you know you have a serious sweep problem, or else a power supply
    issue. (Power supply issues can look like all kinds of other problems
    and should be the first thing to be checked.)

    Thanks for your help! I'll see about finding someone who knows CRTs.

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    | Jason F. McBrayer jmcbray@carcosa.net |
    | A flower falls, even though we love it; and a weed grows, |
    | even though we do not love it. -- Dogen |

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  • From Dave McGuire@21:1/5 to Jason McBrayer on Tue Aug 29 18:34:27 2023
    On 8/29/23 09:01, Jason McBrayer wrote:
    So, you know you have a serious sweep problem, or else a power supply
    issue. (Power supply issues can look like all kinds of other problems
    and should be the first thing to be checked.)

    Thanks for your help! I'll see about finding someone who knows CRTs.

    Search for a guy named Ian Primus, based in NY.

    -Dave

    --
    Dave McGuire, President/Curator
    Large Scale Systems Museum
    New Kensington, PA

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