Google Groups stopped adding groups, some time ago.
It has added a ton of its own private groups.
Which nobody cares about.
This was just posted on the Windows newsgroups, but it applies equally to those on these specialty newsgroups who search before they ask questions.
*Web-searchable (read only) Google Groups Archives for this newsgroup*
NOTE: These are deprecated special-purpose "newsgroups" for Mozilla servers
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mozilla.general>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mozilla.support.firefox>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mozilla.support.thunderbird>
etc.
Which were copied to the following simpler URLs in the great reshuffle:
<https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.general>
<https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.support.firefox>
<https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.support.thunderbird>
etc.
Paul wrote:
Google Groups stopped adding groups, some time ago.
It has added a ton of its own private groups.
Which nobody cares about.
Hi Paul,
I often run a search before asking questions, and when researching
issues to help answer others, so I've been involved in this for years.
I think your assumption is not quite accurate, as I have been using Google Groups archival links for many years, but I didn't do any explicit research so it's just my "experienced assumption" that Google _does_ add groups.
They're just extremely selective about which groups they bother to add. :)
<alt.usage.english>
<news.software.readers>
<alt.free.newsservers>
<comp.text.pdf>
<alt.comp.software.thunderbird>
<alt.comp.software.firefox>
<rec.photo.digital>
<rec.autos.tech>
<alt.home.repair>
<alt.comp.microsoft.windows>
<microsoft.public.windowsxp.general>
<alt.comp.os.windows-11>
<alt.comp.os.windows-10>
<alt.comp.os.windows-8>
<alt.windows7.general>
<alt.msdos.batch>
<alt.os.linux>
<comp.mobile.android>
<comp.mobile.ipad>
<misc.phone.mobile.iphone>
<alt.comp.freeware>
<comp.sys.mac.apps>
<comp.sys.mac.system>
<comp.sys.mac.advocacy>
<alt.internet.wireless>
<sci.electronics.repair>
<sci.geo.satellite-nav>
etc.
It was well before Google changed their archival links to something easy
to remember when the "N" archives used exactly those monikers, namely:
<https://alt.usage.english.narkive.com>
<https://alt.free.newsservers.narkive.com>
<https://news.software.readers.narkive.com>
<https://comp.text.pdf.narkive.com>
<https://alt.comp.software.thunderbird.narkive.com>
<https://alt.comp.software.firefox.narkive.com>
<https://rec.photo.digital.narkive.com>
<https://rec.autos.tech.narkive.com>
<https://alt.home.repair.narkive.com>
<https://alt.comp.microsoft.windows.narkive.com>
<https://microsoft.public.windowsxp.general.narkive.com>
<https://alt.comp.os.windows-11.narkive.com>
<https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com>
<https://alt.comp.os.windows-8.narkive.com>
<https://alt.windows7.general.narkive.com>
<https://alt.msdos.batch.narkive.com>
<https://alt.os.linux.narkive.com>
<https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com>
<https://comp.mobile.ipad.narkive.com>
<https://misc.phone.mobile.iphone.narkive.com>
<https://alt.comp.freeware.narkive.com>
<https://comp.sys.mac.apps.narkive.com>
<https://comp.sys.mac.system.narkive.com>
<https://comp.sys.mac.advocacy.narkive.com>
<https://alt.internet.wireless.narkive.com>
<https://sci.electronics.repair.narkive.com>
<https://sci.geo.satellite-nav.narkive.com>
etc.
At the time I had used a combination of N archives & google groups links which were the best I could do then to publish web-searchable archives:
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-usage-english>
<https://tinyurl.com/news-software-readers>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-free-newsservers>
<https://tinyurl.com/comp-text-pdf>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-software-thunderbird>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-software-firefox>
<https://tinyurl.com/rec-photo-digital>
<https://tinyurl.com/rec-autos-tech>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-home-repair>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-microsoft-windows>
<https://tinyurl.com/microsoft-public-windowsxp-gen> (30-character limit)
I also had created an easier URL:<https://tinyurl.com/windowsxp-general>
<alt.comp.os.windows-11> At the time this didn't exist for me to set up
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-8>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-7>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-windows7-general>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-msdos-batch>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-os-linux>
<https://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-android>
<https://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-ipad>
<https://tinyurl.com/misc-phone-mobile-iphone>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-freeware>
<https://tinyurl.com/comp-sys-mac-apps>
<https://tinyurl.com/comp-sys-mac-system>
<https://tinyurl.com/comp-sys-mac-advocacy>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-internet-wireless>
<https://tinyurl.com/sci-electronics-repair>
<https://tinyurl.com/sci-geo-satellite-nav>
etc.
Note these are all so old they link to the now-deprecated Google Groups
which had recently been DejaNews archived at that time of formation:
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.usage.english>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/news.software.readers>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.free.newsservers>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.text.pdf>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.comp.software.thunderbird>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.comp.software.firefox>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/rec.photo.digital>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/rec.autos.tech>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.home.repair>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.comp.microsoft.windows>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general>
<alt.comp.os.windows-11> At the time this didn't exist for me to set up
<http://www.pcbanter.net/forumdisplay.php?f=52> for Windows 10
<http://www.pcbanter.net/forumdisplay.php?f=50> for Windows-8
<http://www.pcbanter.net/forumdisplay.php?f=48> for Windows-7
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.msdos.batch>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.os.linux>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.mobile.android>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.mobile.ipad>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/misc.phone.mobile.iphone>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.comp.freeware>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.sys.mac.apps>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.sys.mac.system>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.sys.mac.advocacy>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.internet.wireless>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sci.electronics.repair>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sci.geo.satellite-nav>
etc.
Which, after the great reshuffling, currently boil down to the following
much easier to remember and logically derived Google Groups search links:
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.usage.english>
<https://groups.google.com/g/news.software.readers>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.free.newsservers>
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.text.pdf>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.software.thunderbird>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.software.firefox>
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.photo.digital>
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.tech>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows>
<https://groups.google.com/g/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general>
<alt.comp.os.windows-11>
<alt.comp.os.windows-10>
<alt.comp.os.windows-8>
<alt.windows7.general>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.msdos.batch>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.os.linux>
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android>
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.ipad>
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.freeware>
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.apps>
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system>
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.internet.wireless>
<https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair>
<https://groups.google.com/g/sci.geo.satellite-nav>
etc.
In summary, I "think" Google _does_ add groups when _they_ see fit.
They just do NOT see fit to add Windows variants as archived groups.
--
Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information which, in this case, is to faithfully elucidate group search archival URLs.
There are some of us that view google inc, as becoming too large to intrusive, and in general a bu$y body on the internet, and in bed with very greedy people, the less of google and the internet will become a better place,
On 29-03-2023 04:51 Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
There are some of us that view google inc, as becoming too large to intrusive, and in general a bu$y body on the internet, and in bed with very greedy people, the less of google and the internet will become a better place,
Everybody complains about the weather but nobody does a thing about it.
What do you know that's better for searching usenet articles?
David Knight?
There are some of us that view google inc, as becoming too large to intrusive, and in general a bu$y body on the internet, and in bed with
very greedy people, the less of google and the internet will become a better place,
Nic wrote:
There are some of us that view google inc, as becoming too large to intrusive, and in general a bu$y body on the internet, and in bed with
very greedy people, the less of google and the internet will become a better place,
I'm with you that Google is everything bad you said above, where, let's be very clear, my Android phone has _no Google Account_ on it, and I replaced all the canonical Google apps with their FOSS equivalents, such as
Google Play Store ===> replaced by the FOSS Google Play store client
Google YouTube client ===> replaced by the FOSS YouTube client
Google GMail MUA ===> replaced by the FOSS Google Email Account client
Google Maps ===> replaced with FOSS offline map routing & traffic
etc.
<https://i.postimg.cc/Bnyr9fP1/account01.jpg> Android works better w/o Google
Because of what you say above about Google, which I agree with, I disable
all the Google packages on my non-rooted Android, and my phone works fine.
<https://i.postimg.cc/qqVFqVwD/updateallapps10.jpg> Disable Google packages
The problem is there are very few Google apps which have no direct
one-to-one replacement, where, for example, I use Google Voice on the iPad because it does NOT create an account on that iPad (whereas doing so on Android _does_ create an account on Android, which I refuse to allow).
<https://i.postimg.cc/NG5pHyBx/aurora10.jpg> No need for a Google Account
I do all the necessary privacy based actions, for example, I spoof my
device when I use the FOSS Google Play Store client to scrape for apps.
And even though I use the FOSS Google Play Store client to obtain most of
my apps, I only use it _once_ in my lifetime as I save it all to Windows.
<https://i.postimg.cc/c4PrjSwx/aurora19.jpg> Save all APKs upon install
Which has FOSS software for installing on any Android by sliding it over.
<https://i.postimg.cc/wvsbcNBz/scrcpy05.jpg> Drag APK from Windows
Where my point is that I divorce myself from Google (and Microsoft) as
much as is humanly possible - which - let's be clear - takes intelligence.
Now back to the web-searchable permanent archives...
If you have a _better_ solution than to anonymously search through those Google dejanews permanent web-searchable archives, I'm all ears.
What do you have to offer?
An example of when I need to search for something, e.g., let's say I want
to display YouTube audio & video from Android onto my Windows PC without
any advertisements inserted by Google, so I know of the "newpipe" keyword.
How would I search the Usenet archives to find threads about that process?
Unfortunately, the only way I know of to access the Windows archives is
to go on VPN and then bring up a web browser and then search the archives.
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows>
Here's a search, for example, but it's just one of many examples to test.
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows/search?q=newpipe.net>
That search finds four discussions with those keywords in them, e.g.,
*Tutorial: How to wirelessly mirror Android YouTube sans ads onto Windows/Linux/macOS with scrcpy/sndcpy/newpipe running on Android*
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows/c/GNjMuBzHt0c/>
For Firefox, or Thunderbird, or PDF, I could just as well have searched
for how to create a PDF of the entire Internet in one step (which, believe
it or not, is possible but I'd limit it to only a few pages of a web site).
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.text.pdf>
Here's the search for example, of how to create a cross-linked PDF of
an entire web site that can be opened up in Firefox & mailed with Tbird.
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.text.pdf/search?q=create%20pdf%20of%20web%20site>
In that single search, I found out how to (a) create a cross-linked
accurate PDF of an entire web site that I can go to using (b) Firefox,
which I can then mail to anyone using (c) Thunderbird (by way of example).
How would you do the same search WITHOUT using Google Groups on VPN?
(If you know how, then you're a much smarter person than I am.)
Bear in mind, most Usenet archives are not forever like Google archives are (although some, especially the payware ones, go back pretty extensively).
But I always propose general purpose free solutions because my goal is
always to help everyone attain the capabilities that I have.
So if you know of a better way than to use the google groups search engine over VPN without logging into it, then please do let me know how you do it. --
Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information which, in this case, is to faithfully try to solve the Usenet search issue.
Everybody complains about the weather but nobody does a thing about it.
What do you know that's better for searching usenet articles?
David Knight?
I think you mean Howard Knight.. http://al.howardknight.net/
I don't have a way to search archives, than the retention of a
spcific newserver, perhaps this might be the time to begin some
sort of de centralised archive platform, where those that want
those archives would start thier own archiving process.
It might work for non binary/text materials.
I don't have a way to search archives, than the retention of a spcific newserver, perhaps this might be the time to begin some sort of de centralised archive platform, where those that want those archives would start thier own archiving process. Itmight work for non binary/text materials.
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 546 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 39:50:03 |
| Calls: | 10,392 |
| Files: | 14,064 |
| Messages: | 6,417,193 |
