• Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge Peter Olcott's Hand in the

    From Richard Damon@21:1/5 to olcott on Wed Jul 17 20:39:39 2024
    XPost: sci.logic

    On 7/17/24 8:02 PM, olcott wrote:
    On 7/16/2024 8:54 PM, olcott wrote:
    On 7/16/2024 8:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
    On 7/16/24 9:34 AM, olcott wrote:
    On 7/16/2024 6:53 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
    On 7/15/24 10:55 PM, olcott wrote:
    On 7/15/2024 9:18 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
    On 7/15/24 10:06 AM, olcott wrote:
    On 7/15/2024 3:48 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 2024-07-11 13:51:47 +0000, olcott said:

    On 7/11/2024 2:07 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 2024-07-10 13:58:42 +0000, olcott said:

    On 7/8/2024 7:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
    On 7/8/24 8:28 PM, olcott wrote:

    Every expression of language that cannot be proven >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or refuted by any finite or infinite sequence of
    truth preserving operations connecting it to its
    meaning specified as a finite expression of language >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is rejected.


    So?

    Tarski's x like Godel's G are know to be true by an
    infinite sequence of truth preserving operations.


    Every time that you affirm your above error you prove
    yourself to be a liar.

    It is quite obvious that you are the liar. You have not shown >>>>>>>>>>> any error
    above.


    Richard said the infinite proofs derive knowledge
    and that infinite proofs never derive knowledge.

    That is included in my "not shown above", in particular the
    word "proofs".


    On 7/8/2024 7:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
    ;
    Tarski's x like Godel's G are know to be true by an
    infinite sequence of truth preserving operations.
    ;

    We cannot know that anything is true by an infinite
    sequence of truth preserving operations as Richard
    falsely claims above.

    You are just mixing up your words because you don't understd that >>>>>>> wrores. amnd just making yourself into a LIAR.

    Our KNOWLEDGE that the statement is true, comes from a finite
    proof in the meta system.

    Thus zero knowledge comes from the infinite proof
    You spelled "known" incorrectly as "know" yet claimed
    that knowledge comes form an infinite proof.

    You can't even pay attention to your own words ???


    There is no "infinite proof".


    On 7/8/2024 7:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
    *know to be true*
    *know to be true*
    *know to be true*
    *know to be true*
    *know to be true*
    by an infinite sequence of truth preserving operations.

    Nothing can ever be known to be true
    by an infinite sequence of truth preserving operations.


    Right, you just don't parse it right because you don't understand
    english.

    the "by" refers to the closer referent.

    it is KNOW TO BE
    TRUE BY an infinite sequence of truth persevng operations.

    The infinite sequence establish what makes it True, not what make the
    truth known.


    In other words when you are caught with your hand in the
    cookie jar stealing cookies you deny:
    (a) That your hand is in the jar
    (b) That there is a jar
    (c) That there are any cookies

    On 7/8/2024 7:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
    ;
    Tarski's x like Godel's G are know to be true by an
    infinite sequence of truth preserving operations.
    ;


    *From immediately above* [somethings] are
    know to be true by an infinite sequence of truth preserving operations.

    Nothing is
    known to be true by an infinite sequence of truth preserving operations.


    But it is known to be (true by an infinite sequence of truth preserving operations)

    So, it is a VALID statement, you are just INTENTIONALLY misinterpreting, showing youself to be a LIAR, or you are totally incompetent in the understanding of the English language.

    You don't seem to know the English grammer rule of preference for
    cloeset referent.

    I guess you are just too stupid.

    Sorry, you are just a stupid pathological liar.

    This is just like your "diagonalization" proof that didn't exist because
    it was nonsene.

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