• The Foundation of Linguistic truth is NOT stipulated relations between

    From Jeff Barnett@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 16 18:26:12 2024
    The amount of utter nonsense one might discover in USENET is typified by
    a thread titled "The Foundation of Linguistic truth is stipulated
    relations between finite strings". It's even doubtful there is an agreed
    upon meaning of "linguistic truth". Is it something to do with truths
    expressed in language, truths about language, or something else?

    In fact "truth" isn't so easy to define either. Is it a time independent
    fact, something believed by a corespondent, or something else?

    This is a trivial example of what happens when unqualified folks want to
    define things that have been considered for millennia by some of the
    finest human minds that we know of without resolution as yet.
    Occasionally one of the hoi polloi will solve one of the "big ones" and
    be elevated to the Parthenon of the Greats but don't hold your breath.

    I remember reading a book by Karl von Frisch about bees and how they communicate the location of pollen sources through ritualized dances.
    (He received a Nobel Prize for his works.) Since any, and I repeat any, communication mechanism, involves a language we can conclude that only a shit-for-brain moron would look for a stipulation in the evolution of
    bees and their ancestors over geological time periods. Oh! And by the
    way, what language did bees and their ancestors use to make these
    stipulations? And what are the finite strings within dances that are stipulated? By whom? How?

    And of course there is the communications of flowers to bees. First off,
    did you know that bees can see in color but that there color receptors
    are for different wave lengths than ours? Bee color vision is not our
    RGB; rather it is based on R G BP, where BP stands for bee purple, and
    is in the ultraviolet spectrum where we and most animals cannot detect
    it. It turns out that many flowers color pathways on their petal insides
    with lines that are paths that show a bee where the pollen is. (Just
    stay on the yellow brick road.) And that children is how flowers tell
    bees how to cross pollinate them while also shouting there's food there.
    Once again I ask what finite strings and how were they stipulated?
    --
    Jeff Barnett

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