• =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Computable_Functions_---_finite_string_transformation_rul

    From Mikko@21:1/5 to olcott on Sun Apr 27 12:51:53 2025
    On 2025-04-26 16:15:44 +0000, olcott said:

    _DD()
    [00002133] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping
    [00002134] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping
    [00002136] 51 push ecx ; make space for local
    [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD
    [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD)
    [00002141] 83c404 add esp,+04
    [00002144] 8945fc mov [ebp-04],eax
    [00002147] 837dfc00 cmp dword [ebp-04],+00
    [0000214b] 7402 jz 0000214f
    [0000214d] ebfe jmp 0000214d
    [0000214f] 8b45fc mov eax,[ebp-04]
    [00002152] 8be5 mov esp,ebp
    [00002154] 5d pop ebp
    [00002155] c3 ret
    Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155]

    When any HHH emulates DD according to the finite
    string transformation rules specified by the x86
    language (the line of demarcation between correct
    and incorrect emulation) no emulated DD can possibly
    reach its final halt state and halt.

    There is a type error above. First DD is introduced as a proper name.
    But later it is used in the phrase "no emulated DD" where the rules
    of the language require a generic name.

    --
    Mikko

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  • From Mikko@21:1/5 to olcott on Mon Apr 28 12:05:02 2025
    On 2025-04-27 18:23:03 +0000, olcott said:

    On 4/27/2025 4:51 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 2025-04-26 16:15:44 +0000, olcott said:

    _DD()
    [00002133] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
    [00002134] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
    [00002136] 51         push ecx      ; make space for local
    [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD
    [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD)
    [00002141] 83c404     add esp,+04
    [00002144] 8945fc     mov [ebp-04],eax
    [00002147] 837dfc00   cmp dword [ebp-04],+00
    [0000214b] 7402       jz 0000214f
    [0000214d] ebfe       jmp 0000214d
    [0000214f] 8b45fc     mov eax,[ebp-04]
    [00002152] 8be5       mov esp,ebp
    [00002154] 5d         pop ebp
    [00002155] c3         ret
    Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155]

    When any HHH emulates DD according to the finite
    string transformation rules specified by the x86
    language (the line of demarcation between correct
    and incorrect emulation) no emulated DD can possibly
    reach its final halt state and halt.

    There is a type error above. First DD is introduced as a proper name.
    But later it is used in the phrase "no emulated DD" where the rules
    of the language require a generic name.


    *This of this as an axiom schema*
    No DD correctly emulated by any HHH can possibly
    reach its final halt state. This conclusively
    proves that every HHH is correct to reject its
    input DD as non-halting.

    That cannot be used as a schema before you specify what symbols in it are placeholders and what replacements can be used for the placeholders.

    --
    Mikko

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  • From Mikko@21:1/5 to olcott on Tue Apr 29 12:54:37 2025
    On 2025-04-28 16:10:35 +0000, olcott said:

    On 4/28/2025 4:05 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 2025-04-27 18:23:03 +0000, olcott said:

    On 4/27/2025 4:51 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 2025-04-26 16:15:44 +0000, olcott said:

    _DD()
    [00002133] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
    [00002134] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
    [00002136] 51         push ecx      ; make space for local >>>>> [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD
    [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD)
    [00002141] 83c404     add esp,+04
    [00002144] 8945fc     mov [ebp-04],eax
    [00002147] 837dfc00   cmp dword [ebp-04],+00
    [0000214b] 7402       jz 0000214f
    [0000214d] ebfe       jmp 0000214d
    [0000214f] 8b45fc     mov eax,[ebp-04]
    [00002152] 8be5       mov esp,ebp
    [00002154] 5d         pop ebp
    [00002155] c3         ret
    Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155]

    When any HHH emulates DD according to the finite
    string transformation rules specified by the x86
    language (the line of demarcation between correct
    and incorrect emulation) no emulated DD can possibly
    reach its final halt state and halt.

    There is a type error above. First DD is introduced as a proper name.
    But later it is used in the phrase "no emulated DD" where the rules
    of the language require a generic name.


    *This of this as an axiom schema*
    No DD correctly emulated by any HHH can possibly
    reach its final halt state. This conclusively
    proves that every HHH is correct to reject its
    input DD as non-halting.

    That cannot be used as a schema before you specify what symbols in it are
    placeholders and what replacements can be used for the placeholders.

    I have gone over this many hundreds of times
    do you not remember anything that I already said?

    No, you havn't. And it wouldn't matter anyway. Every time you present
    a schema you must specify the types and ranges of the paceholders.

    --
    Mikko

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