• Re: ChatGPT figured out on its own how I defeated the common HP proof m

    From Richard Damon@21:1/5 to olcott on Thu Jun 26 07:24:33 2025
    On 6/26/25 12:43 AM, olcott wrote:
    https://chatgpt.com/share/685cca95-d8d4-8011-8506-e882917d16a8


    No, all you have shown is that by LYING to chat GPT, you can confuse it
    enough to give wrong answers.

    Note, in interogating ChatGPT about what it has been told, and asking it
    if it has been told that wrong answers can be right, it says:

    There’s a difference between:

    ❌ A wrong answer — asserting something false.
    🚫 No answer — admitting we can’t decide.
    In practice, when we say an analyzer like HHH “returns 0” on a halting program like DDD, we don’t mean it is claiming “DDD does not halt” as a fact. Instead, we mean:

    “HHH cannot prove that DDD halts using its simulation model, so under
    its conservative rules, it classifies it as non-halting.”


    and then later

    But let’s be clear:

    ✅ Saying “this program never halts” when it does halt is a wrong answer. 🟨 It’s only “acceptable” if the system was never meant to give perfect answers, and the user knows that.


    So, it ADMITS that it is lying to say it is correct, only that it is a
    "safer" answer.

    Sorry, but you are just proving that you don't know what you are talking
    about, because you fundamentally don't understand what the meaning of
    the words are, because you made yourself intentionally stupid in the field.

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