On 8/2/2025 4:38 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:I'll have to agree with you on this one.
Op 02.aug.2025 om 04:09 schreef olcott:
On 8/1/2025 8:01 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
Olcott, give it a fucking rest: what you are banging on about has
nothing to do with the Halting Problem.
Damon, stop feeding Olcott: you are just talking over each other at
this point.
You are literally deluded.Every attempt to refute me has been counter-factual.
The survival of life an Earth depends on a correct understanding of
truth.
Thank you.As usual incorrect claims without evidence.I am not going to repeat all of the lines of my proof every single time.
...if you change what the "HHH" that DDD calls refers to.A finite recursion is not a non-halting behaviour.Finite recursion by itself is not non-halting behavior.
Finite recursion that correctly detects a pattern that would infinitely repeat *IS NON-HALTING BEHAVIOR*
Change it to what?You are trying to get away with the idea that if you close your eyesNot at all. I repeatedly challenge you to show how DDD emulated by HHH
for the halting behaviour, it does not exists.
halts and you change the subject.
Each? The simulating and the simulated HHH?The simulating HHH aborts before it reaches the final halt state of theEach HHH aborts as soon as it has seen one recursive simulation.
simulated HHH that has the same code to abort, so it does not see it
and pretends that it does not exist.
We could change this to each HHH aborts after it sees N recursive simulations. In every case the outer HHH meets its criteria first.Sure, but those are different programs. DDD calls a simulator that aborts
If this HHH waited for the next, they would all wait for the next and no abort would ever occur.
I don't change the meaning of words. I [...]--
correct the definitions of the meaning
of words when these definitions directly contradict other definitions.
On 8/2/2025 1:19 PM, joes wrote:
Am Sat, 02 Aug 2025 10:03:10 -0500 schrieb olcott:
On 8/2/2025 4:38 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:I'll have to agree with you on this one.
Op 02.aug.2025 om 04:09 schreef olcott:
On 8/1/2025 8:01 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
Olcott, give it a fucking rest: what you are banging on about has
nothing to do with the Halting Problem.
Damon, stop feeding Olcott: you are just talking over each other at >>>>>> this point.
You are literally deluded.Every attempt to refute me has been counter-factual.
The survival of life an Earth depends on a correct understanding of
truth.
Thank you.As usual incorrect claims without evidence.I am not going to repeat all of the lines of my proof every single time.
...if you change what the "HHH" that DDD calls refers to.A finite recursion is not a non-halting behaviour.Finite recursion by itself is not non-halting behavior.
Finite recursion that correctly detects a pattern that would infinitely
repeat *IS NON-HALTING BEHAVIOR*
You are trying to get away with the idea that if you close your eyesNot at all. I repeatedly challenge you to show how DDD emulated by HHH
for the halting behaviour, it does not exists.
halts and you change the subject.
Change it to what?
I say DDD correctly emulated by HHH does not halt
and Richard says no I am wrong the directly executed
DDD() does halt. He has done this hundreds of times.
The simulating HHH aborts before it reaches the final halt state of the >>>> simulated HHH that has the same code to abort, so it does not see itEach HHH aborts as soon as it has seen one recursive simulation.
and pretends that it does not exist.
Each? The simulating and the simulated HHH?
_DDD()
[0000219e] 55 push ebp
[0000219f] 8bec mov ebp,esp
[000021a1] 689e210000 push 0000219e
[000021a6] e843f4ffff call 000015ee
[000021ab] 83c404 add esp,+04
[000021ae] 5d pop ebp
[000021af] c3 ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [000021af]
Within the infinite set of HHH/DDD pairs such that
each HHH emulates one element of the sequence of natural
numbers instructions of DDD no DDD element each reaches
past its own machine address [000021a6].
We could change this to each HHH aborts after it sees N recursive
simulations. In every case the outer HHH meets its criteria first.
If this HHH waited for the next, they would all wait for the next and no >>> abort would ever occur.
Sure, but those are different programs. DDD calls a simulator that aborts
after two levels, no matter what you simulate it with.
When we examine the infinite set of HHH/DDD pairs
and HHH is a simulating termination analyzer it
would be correct for HHH to abort its simulation
as soon as it sees that DDD calls itself HHH(DDD).
I have HHH emulate DDD all over again because
people here can hardly pay any attention at all
so I have to make a point totally obvious before
they have any chance of understanding.
I don't change the meaning of words. I [...]
correct the definitions of the meaning
of words when these definitions directly contradict other definitions.
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