• Re: Despicable liars use defamation of character as their rebuttal

    From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to olcott on Thu Aug 21 16:11:20 2025
    On 21/08/2025 16:06, olcott wrote:
    On 8/21/2025 8:37 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
    Am 08.08.2025 um 00:01 schrieb Mr Flibble:

    Olcott's major malfunction as far as the Halting Problem is
    concerned is
    his inability to recognise the difference between (and/or his
    conflation
    of) *execution* with *computation*.

    Pete needs a doctor.


    I consider that statement defamation of character.

    People who /don't/ need a doctor take that kind of thing as a
    little light leg-pulling and don't see the need to drag in
    legal-sounding terms. Perhaps you'd like to reconsider your answer?

    --
    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
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  • From Mr Flibble@21:1/5 to olcott on Thu Aug 21 16:41:36 2025
    On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 10:06:25 -0500, olcott wrote:

    On 8/21/2025 8:37 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
    Am 08.08.2025 um 00:01 schrieb Mr Flibble:

    Olcott's major malfunction as far as the Halting Problem is concerned
    is his inability to recognise the difference between (and/or his
    conflation of) *execution* with *computation*.

    Pete needs a doctor.


    I consider that statement defamation of character.
    It is an easily verified fact that

    typedef int (*ptr)();
    int HHH(ptr P);

    int DD()
    {
    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
    if (Halt_Status)
    HERE: goto HERE;
    return Halt_Status;
    }

    HHH uses cooperative multi-tasking to switch between itself and its
    simulated DD instance.

    DD[0] is invoked and calls HHH[0] that creates a separate DD[1] process context with its own set of 16 virtual registers and virtual stack.

    When HHH[0] encounters the call from DD[1] to HHH[1](DD)
    HHH[0] simulates this HHH[1] instance within this same DD[1] process
    context.

    When HHH[1] begins simulating its own DD[2] it must create a separate
    DD[2] process context with its own set of 16 virtual registers and
    virtual stack...

    on and on until OOM error (proving non-halting) when we eliminate the
    u32* execution_trace data.

    At which point it needs to report that "proven" non-halting decision to
    its caller, DD(), which will then halt confirming the extant Halting
    Problem proofs are correct.

    /Flibble

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  • From Mr Flibble@21:1/5 to olcott on Thu Aug 21 16:48:02 2025
    On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 11:45:54 -0500, olcott wrote:

    On 8/21/2025 10:11 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
    On 21/08/2025 16:06, olcott wrote:
    On 8/21/2025 8:37 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
    Am 08.08.2025 um 00:01 schrieb Mr Flibble:

    Olcott's major malfunction as far as the Halting Problem is
    concerned is his inability to recognise the difference between
    (and/or his conflation of) *execution* with *computation*.

    Pete needs a doctor.


    I consider that statement defamation of character.

    People who /don't/ need a doctor take that kind of thing as a little
    light leg-pulling and don't see the need to drag in legal-sounding
    terms. Perhaps you'd like to reconsider your answer?


    I will call out every instance of libel.

    You do need a doctor tho, you need medication.

    /Flibble

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  • From Mr Flibble@21:1/5 to olcott on Thu Aug 21 17:03:13 2025
    On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 11:58:52 -0500, olcott wrote:

    On 8/21/2025 11:41 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
    On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 10:06:25 -0500, olcott wrote:

    On 8/21/2025 8:37 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
    Am 08.08.2025 um 00:01 schrieb Mr Flibble:

    Olcott's major malfunction as far as the Halting Problem is
    concerned is his inability to recognise the difference between
    (and/or his conflation of) *execution* with *computation*.

    Pete needs a doctor.


    I consider that statement defamation of character.
    It is an easily verified fact that

    typedef int (*ptr)();
    int HHH(ptr P);

    int DD()
    {
    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
    if (Halt_Status)
    HERE: goto HERE;
    return Halt_Status;
    }

    HHH uses cooperative multi-tasking to switch between itself and its
    simulated DD instance.

    DD[0] is invoked and calls HHH[0] that creates a separate DD[1]
    process context with its own set of 16 virtual registers and virtual
    stack.

    When HHH[0] encounters the call from DD[1] to HHH[1](DD)
    HHH[0] simulates this HHH[1] instance within this same DD[1] process
    context.

    When HHH[1] begins simulating its own DD[2] it must create a separate
    DD[2] process context with its own set of 16 virtual registers and
    virtual stack...

    on and on until OOM error (proving non-halting) when we eliminate the
    u32* execution_trace data.

    At which point it needs to report that "proven" non-halting decision to
    its caller, DD(), which will then halt confirming the extant Halting
    Problem proofs are correct.

    /Flibble

    *Only when one stupidly ignores this axiom* Turing machine deciders only compute the mapping from their inputs...

    Wrong, HHH takes a *description* of its caller, DD, as an input; if you
    aren't doing that then you aren't working on the Halting Problem.

    /Flibble

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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to olcott on Thu Aug 21 18:19:48 2025
    On 21/08/2025 17:45, olcott wrote:
    On 8/21/2025 10:11 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
    On 21/08/2025 16:06, olcott wrote:
    On 8/21/2025 8:37 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
    Am 08.08.2025 um 00:01 schrieb Mr Flibble:

    Olcott's major malfunction as far as the Halting Problem is
    concerned is
    his inability to recognise the difference between (and/or
    his conflation
    of) *execution* with *computation*.

    Pete needs a doctor.


    I consider that statement defamation of character.

    People who /don't/ need a doctor take that kind of thing as a
    little light leg-pulling and don't see the need to drag in
    legal-sounding terms. Perhaps you'd like to reconsider your
    answer?


    I will call out every instance of libel.

    So you're happy to dish it out but not to take it. That won't go
    down well in court.

    Also, libel is (written) defamation of character, and you're
    going to find that /very/ hard to prove... and in the USA the
    burden of proof is on the plaintiff.

    --
    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to olcott on Thu Aug 21 19:25:59 2025
    On 21/08/2025 18:39, olcott wrote:
    On 8/21/2025 12:19 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
    On 21/08/2025 17:45, olcott wrote:

    <snip>


    I will call out every instance of libel.

    So you're happy to dish it out but not to take it. That won't
    go down well in court.

    Also, libel is (written) defamation of character, and you're
    going to find that /very/ hard to prove... and in the USA the
    burden of proof is on the plaintiff.

    None-the-less I will continue point point out
    libel, unintentional counter-factual claims
    and flat out lies about my work.

    And no doubt you will continue to misinterpret corrections as
    "counter-factual" or "flat-out lies".

    It's very cute, and we wouldn't have you any other way.

    But every time you falsely accuse an interlocutor of lying, you
    multiply your credibility by 0.99. After a great many such
    accusations, your score is already vanishingly small, and nobody
    believes a word of it.

    Try restricting accusations of lying to where you have actual
    evidence of intent to deceive. You may find that that one simple
    measure benefits your credibility far more than idle threats of
    libel in a land where your right of free speech has
    constitutional protection.

    --
    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
    Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to olcott on Fri Aug 22 15:22:12 2025
    On 22/08/2025 14:57, olcott wrote:
    That you cannot even find a mistake in what I say

    Lots of people have pointed out lots of mistakes in what you say.
    The fact that you don't agree that they're mistakes doesn't stop
    them from being mistakes.

    --
    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
    Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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