• The simple fact that Olcott still doesn't get

    From Mr Flibble@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 1 00:08:48 2025
    In the diagonalization proofs it doesn't matter what halting decision a
    halt decider, given a *description* of its caller as in input, reports to
    its caller because its caller will proceed to do the exact opposite
    causing a logical contradiction.

    Olcott is too stubborn to understand this; he seems to reject it based on logical misunderstandings, especially his conflation of execution with simulation.

    Pink isn't a physical colour.

    /Flibble




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  • From Mr Flibble@21:1/5 to Richard Damon on Mon Sep 1 01:09:46 2025
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 20:30:51 -0400, Richard Damon wrote:

    On 8/31/25 8:08 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
    In the diagonalization proofs it doesn't matter what halting decision a
    halt decider, given a *description* of its caller as in input, reports
    to its caller because its caller will proceed to do the exact opposite
    causing a logical contradiction.

    Olcott is too stubborn to understand this; he seems to reject it based
    on logical misunderstandings, especially his conflation of execution
    with simulation.

    Pink isn't a physical colour.

    /Flibble


    But only if you define physical color as spectral colors, as a quaint
    misuse of the word.

    By the NORMAL meaning of Physical Color, which is an observational
    phenomenon over the full visible spectrum, it is one.

    Mr Flibble is just showing he believes in Olcottian logic.

    "If color is solely the way physics describes it, the visible spectrum of
    light waves, then black and white are outcasts and don’t count as true, physical colors." -- https://www.britannica.com/story/are-black-and-white- colors

    /Flibble

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  • From Richard Damon@21:1/5 to Mr Flibble on Sun Aug 31 20:30:51 2025
    On 8/31/25 8:08 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
    In the diagonalization proofs it doesn't matter what halting decision a
    halt decider, given a *description* of its caller as in input, reports to
    its caller because its caller will proceed to do the exact opposite
    causing a logical contradiction.

    Olcott is too stubborn to understand this; he seems to reject it based on logical misunderstandings, especially his conflation of execution with simulation.

    Pink isn't a physical colour.

    /Flibble


    But only if you define physical color as spectral colors, as a quaint
    misuse of the word.

    By the NORMAL meaning of Physical Color, which is an observational
    phenomenon over the full visible spectrum, it is one.

    Mr Flibble is just showing he believes in Olcottian logic.

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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to Richard Damon on Mon Sep 1 01:54:35 2025
    On 01/09/2025 01:30, Richard Damon wrote:
    On 8/31/25 8:08 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
    In the diagonalization proofs it doesn't matter what halting
    decision a
    halt decider, given a *description* of its caller as in input,
    reports to
    its caller because its caller will proceed to do the exact
    opposite
    causing a logical contradiction.

    Olcott is too stubborn to understand this; he seems to reject
    it based on
    logical misunderstandings, especially his conflation of
    execution with
    simulation.

    Pink isn't a physical colour.

    /Flibble


    But only if you define physical color as spectral colors, as a
    quaint misuse of the word.

    By the NORMAL meaning of Physical Color, which is an
    observational phenomenon over the full visible spectrum, it is one.

    Mr Flibble is just showing he believes in Olcottian logic.

    I don't get it. We can see that DD halts, and we can see
    flamingos and roses. Are we to indulge every lunatic observation
    that comes along by awarding it dozens of replies a day?

    In these days of cybercurrency, AI, identity scraping,
    philosopherless trolleys and the like, there are so many things
    we could usefully be spending time on learning more about.

    But sure, let's play Flibble's game and talk about bloody pink.

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  • From Richard Damon@21:1/5 to Mr Flibble on Sun Aug 31 22:16:24 2025
    On 8/31/25 9:09 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 20:30:51 -0400, Richard Damon wrote:

    On 8/31/25 8:08 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
    In the diagonalization proofs it doesn't matter what halting decision a
    halt decider, given a *description* of its caller as in input, reports
    to its caller because its caller will proceed to do the exact opposite
    causing a logical contradiction.

    Olcott is too stubborn to understand this; he seems to reject it based
    on logical misunderstandings, especially his conflation of execution
    with simulation.

    Pink isn't a physical colour.

    /Flibble


    But only if you define physical color as spectral colors, as a quaint
    misuse of the word.

    By the NORMAL meaning of Physical Color, which is an observational
    phenomenon over the full visible spectrum, it is one.

    Mr Flibble is just showing he believes in Olcottian logic.

    "If color is solely the way physics describes it, the visible spectrum of light waves, then black and white are outcasts and don’t count as true, physical colors." -- https://www.britannica.com/story/are-black-and-white- colors

    /Flibble


    Right.

    *IF*, a conditional, and is specifing an unusual condition, as were
    rarely are talking about, as just the rainbow specturm (which is what
    they seem to be talking about).

    Sincd that is NOT the normal case, it doesn't define what "physical
    color" means in normal conversation.

    Note, by that definition, your monitor doesn't produce "Orange" as when
    it does, it isn't the orange that comes out of that definition.

    In fact, by that definition, you monitor only produces 3 very specific
    colors.

    Sorry, your problem is that you don't understand what that article is
    talking about.

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  • From Mr Flibble@21:1/5 to Richard Damon on Mon Sep 1 17:04:10 2025
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 22:16:24 -0400, Richard Damon wrote:

    On 8/31/25 9:09 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 20:30:51 -0400, Richard Damon wrote:

    On 8/31/25 8:08 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
    In the diagonalization proofs it doesn't matter what halting decision
    a halt decider, given a *description* of its caller as in input,
    reports to its caller because its caller will proceed to do the exact
    opposite causing a logical contradiction.

    Olcott is too stubborn to understand this; he seems to reject it
    based on logical misunderstandings, especially his conflation of
    execution with simulation.

    Pink isn't a physical colour.

    /Flibble


    But only if you define physical color as spectral colors, as a quaint
    misuse of the word.

    By the NORMAL meaning of Physical Color, which is an observational
    phenomenon over the full visible spectrum, it is one.

    Mr Flibble is just showing he believes in Olcottian logic.

    "If color is solely the way physics describes it, the visible spectrum
    of light waves, then black and white are outcasts and don’t count as
    true, physical colors." --
    https://www.britannica.com/story/are-black-and-white-
    colors

    /Flibble


    Right.

    *IF*, a conditional, and is specifing an unusual condition, as were
    rarely are talking about, as just the rainbow specturm (which is what
    they seem to be talking about).

    Sincd that is NOT the normal case, it doesn't define what "physical
    color" means in normal conversation.

    Note, by that definition, your monitor doesn't produce "Orange" as when
    it does, it isn't the orange that comes out of that definition.

    In fact, by that definition, you monitor only produces 3 very specific colors.

    Sorry, your problem is that you don't understand what that article is
    talking about.

    My source is using the term "physical color" in the same way I am you
    lying c-nt.

    /Flibble


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  • From Richard Damon@21:1/5 to Mr Flibble on Mon Sep 1 13:29:44 2025
    On 9/1/25 1:04 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 22:16:24 -0400, Richard Damon wrote:

    On 8/31/25 9:09 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 20:30:51 -0400, Richard Damon wrote:

    On 8/31/25 8:08 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
    In the diagonalization proofs it doesn't matter what halting decision >>>>> a halt decider, given a *description* of its caller as in input,
    reports to its caller because its caller will proceed to do the exact >>>>> opposite causing a logical contradiction.

    Olcott is too stubborn to understand this; he seems to reject it
    based on logical misunderstandings, especially his conflation of
    execution with simulation.

    Pink isn't a physical colour.

    /Flibble


    But only if you define physical color as spectral colors, as a quaint
    misuse of the word.

    By the NORMAL meaning of Physical Color, which is an observational
    phenomenon over the full visible spectrum, it is one.

    Mr Flibble is just showing he believes in Olcottian logic.

    "If color is solely the way physics describes it, the visible spectrum
    of light waves, then black and white are outcasts and don’t count as
    true, physical colors." --
    https://www.britannica.com/story/are-black-and-white-
    colors

    /Flibble


    Right.

    *IF*, a conditional, and is specifing an unusual condition, as were
    rarely are talking about, as just the rainbow specturm (which is what
    they seem to be talking about).

    Sincd that is NOT the normal case, it doesn't define what "physical
    color" means in normal conversation.

    Note, by that definition, your monitor doesn't produce "Orange" as when
    it does, it isn't the orange that comes out of that definition.

    In fact, by that definition, you monitor only produces 3 very specific
    colors.

    Sorry, your problem is that you don't understand what that article is
    talking about.

    My source is using the term "physical color" in the same way I am you
    lying c-nt.

    /Flibble



    SO you are Peter Olcotting again.

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