I used to have SPARC machines here, but they have all been lost over the
years in various moves and/or disasters.

But I still have one single 32 bit SPARC application that it would be nice
to be able to run now and again. It is a relatively simple, command line
only program. I have actually run it (sort of) using QEMU (the version of
QEMU where you give it a single program to run, rather than a full boot of
the foreign OS) under Linux on X86 and/or ARM. However, it doesn't
actually run because of library dependencies. I have tried (once, long
ago) to obtain the libraries, but could never quite get all that is needed.

So, hence the question in the Subject line. I would be willing to run this
app in some kind of virtual machine if necessary, presumably using QEMU.

I did some research, and it sounds like the answer is No, but you never can tell; it sure looks like Oracle did everything possible to screw things up.

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gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) writes:
...

But I still have one single 32 bit SPARC application that it would be nice
to be able to run now and again. It is a relatively simple, command line only program. [...] However, it doesn't
actually run because of library dependencies. I have tried (once, long
ago) to obtain the libraries, but could never quite get all that is needed.

So, hence the question in the Subject line.

I probably can't help other than posting this followup ...

Which version was the application compiled for, and which libraries do
you know it needs?

You say "any version". Some versions of Solaris were open source, so
getting libraries (or even the whole O/S) for those may be easier than
for the proprietary versions.

If pretty much any of the OpenSolaris versions will do, look up
OpenIndiana and Illumos. Its goal was OpenSolaris with non-free code
replaced. There was also Nexenta which had a Solaris kernel and GNU
userland.

HTH,
-WBE

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On 5/6/21 9:24 AM, Kenny McCormack wrote:

Possible to obtain any version of Solaris SPARC (32 bit) ?

I'd suggest checking eBay, The Internet Archive, and various abandon
ware websites. eBay may give you the warm and fuzzy feeling of you've purchased a copy. YMMV



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gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) writes:

I used to have SPARC machines here, but they have all been lost over the >years in various moves and/or disasters.

But I still have one single 32 bit SPARC application that it would be nice
to be able to run now and again. It is a relatively simple, command line >only program. I have actually run it (sort of) using QEMU (the version of >QEMU where you give it a single program to run, rather than a full boot of >the foreign OS) under Linux on X86 and/or ARM. However, it doesn't
actually run because of library dependencies. I have tried (once, long
ago) to obtain the libraries, but could never quite get all that is needed.

So, hence the question in the Subject line. I would be willing to run this >app in some kind of virtual machine if necessary, presumably using QEMU.

I did some research, and it sounds like the answer is No, but you never can >tell; it sure looks like Oracle did everything possible to screw things up.

What type of 32 bit application is it; is it really old (SunOS 4.x) or is Solaris 2.x+?

What type of libraries does it use? It seems to be not graphic so you
have a bigger chance of success on modern Solaris.

Solaris 7 was the first version of Solaris with a 64 bit kernel and
so the ability to run 64 binaries.

But Solaris has been able to run 32 bit binaries still; upto
Solaris 11.3 most of the binaries in the OS are 32 bit. It is on
Solaris 11.4 that most system supplied binaries are 64 bit; but
Solaris still support 32 bit binaries.

Of course, ypu'd need a SPARC system but I think there are a few
feasible SPARC emulators though I could think of one right now.

Casper

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In article <609d1960$0$29332$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,
Casper H.S. Dik <Casper.Dik@OrSPaMcle.COM> wrote:

gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) writes:

I used to have SPARC machines here, but they have all been lost over the >>years in various moves and/or disasters.

But I still have one single 32 bit SPARC application that it would be nice >>to be able to run now and again. It is a relatively simple, command line >>only program. I have actually run it (sort of) using QEMU (the version of >>QEMU where you give it a single program to run, rather than a full boot of >>the foreign OS) under Linux on X86 and/or ARM. However, it doesn't >>actually run because of library dependencies. I have tried (once, long >>ago) to obtain the libraries, but could never quite get all that is needed.

So, hence the question in the Subject line. I would be willing to run this >>app in some kind of virtual machine if necessary, presumably using QEMU.

I did some research, and it sounds like the answer is No, but you never can >>tell; it sure looks like Oracle did everything possible to screw things up.

What type of 32 bit application is it; is it really old (SunOS 4.x) or is >Solaris 2.x+?

What type of libraries does it use? It seems to be not graphic so you
have a bigger chance of success on modern Solaris.

Solaris 7 was the first version of Solaris with a 64 bit kernel and
so the ability to run 64 binaries.

But Solaris has been able to run 32 bit binaries still; upto
Solaris 11.3 most of the binaries in the OS are 32 bit. It is on
Solaris 11.4 that most system supplied binaries are 64 bit; but
Solaris still support 32 bit binaries.

Of course, ypu'd need a SPARC system but I think there are a few
feasible SPARC emulators though I could think of one right now.

(Finally got around to responding to this...)

Actually, I'd also be interested in possibly buying a SPARC system to run
this app on. As I mentioned in the OP (posted about a year ago), I used to have one. It was about the size and shape of a shoebox and cost me about
$90 (including the OS).

I bought it from some dealer who was mentioned in this newsgroup. At this point in time, I have no idea who it was or any contact info.

Anyway, any info anyone can provide about good places to go looking now,
would be appreciated. I looked briefly on eBay and everything was too big/complex for what I want and (way) too expensive. I realize that
everything is (much) more expensive now than it was not too long ago, but hopefully, I can find something that's not too too expensive.

Also, the idea of a SPARC emulator would be nice - except then I'd have to
get the OS from somewhere.

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gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) writes:

Also, the idea of a SPARC emulator would be nice - except then I'd
have to get the OS from somewhere.

A Google search for "SunOS 4.1.4 download" produced several results.
One was to fsck.technology which has a sunos_4.1.4_install.iso (378.2
MB). [I know nothing about them, so this is not a recommendation or
statement of trustworthiness; I'm just saying that 4.1.4 appears to be available.]
-WBE

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gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) writes:

Actually, I'd also be interested in possibly buying a SPARC system to run >this app on. As I mentioned in the OP (posted about a year ago), I used to >have one. It was about the size and shape of a shoebox and cost me about
$90 (including the OS).

I bought it from some dealer who was mentioned in this newsgroup. At this >point in time, I have no idea who it was or any contact info.

32-bit SPARC systems are getting to be museum pieces now.

I'd expect the $750-$999 prices that eBay are getting for Sun IPX and
Sun Sparcstation 20 are probably going to be the norm unless you can
find somebody to just give you one for the price of shipping.

Those were probably the most common 32-bit models still left.

Otherwise, you can try hitting up the mailing list
The Rescue List <rescue@sunhelp.org>

To see if anybody has any dealers left.

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