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  • Re: argh macs are becoming penny extractors.

    From bozo@dev.null@21:1/5 to Muttley@dastardlyhq.com on Fri Mar 18 13:32:25 2022
    On 2022-03-16, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 14:27:59 GMT
    scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
    Muttley@dastardlyhq.com writes:
    On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 10:19:25 -0700
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2022-03-14 9:54 a.m., Popping Mad wrote:
    On 3/13/22 14:18, vallor wrote:
    telnet is deprecated.

    except when it is not


    Say something more meaningful than that, huh?

    If you don't know why telnet is an extremely useful network debugging tool >>>there's little point trying to explain it to you.


    I'd point out that nc (nee netcat) has been a useful network debugging
    tool for a quarter of a century. telnet (as a protocol) is, as I am sure >>you are aware, quite insecure. Unix telnet also open source, so one could >>quite simply compile it on MacOS if one really requires it and nc
    isn't sufficient.

    Or just install it with brew. netcat is a sledgehammer for a nut in most cases
    and has long been superceeded by wireshark for packet sniffing anyway.



    Netcat is not an sniffing tool, it's a swiss knife for networking.

    You can create tunnels for proxying and so on.

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  • From Nicolas George@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 18 14:18:01 2022
    bozo@dev.null, dans le message
    <slrnt392ds.odk.bozo@darkstar.home.local>, a écrit :
    Netcat is not an sniffing tool, it's a swiss knife for networking.

    At best, netcat is a letter opener for networking. If you want a Swiss Army knife for networking, look into socat.

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  • From Kenny McCormack@21:1/5 to nicolas$george@salle-s.org on Fri Mar 18 15:19:52 2022
    In article <62349499$0$29481$426a74cc@news.free.fr>,
    Nicolas George <nicolas$george@salle-s.org> wrote:
    bozo@dev.null, dans le message
    <slrnt392ds.odk.bozo@darkstar.home.local>, a crit:
    Netcat is not an sniffing tool, it's a swiss knife for networking.

    At best, netcat is a letter opener for networking. If you want a Swiss Army >knife for networking, look into socat.

    Indeed. I use socat when I need to do things with Unix sockets (e.g.,
    fixing the bug in modern X servers where they don't listen for tcp
    connections anymore). But I still use netcat for the usual TCP/UDP stuff.

    As I mentioned, the real problem with netcat is that there are 70 million versions of it - so you never really know what any particular version can
    or can't do (and, yes, this makes it hard to argue with strangers on Usenet about what it can and can't do). That said, I think I saw someone here
    post (in defense of netcat) that it does do Unix sockets. Maybe I mis-interpreted.

    Anyway, socat could be seen as just yet another member of the "netcat
    family". Also, from what I can tell, something called "ncat" is actually
    the best representative of that family of programs.

    --
    "If our country is going broke, let it be from feeding the poor and caring for the elderly. And not from pampering the rich and fighting wars for them."

    --Living Blue in a Red State--

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  • From Nicolas George@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 18 15:31:52 2022
    Kenny McCormack, dans le message <t127uo$1ppm1$3@news.xmission.com>, a
    écrit :
    fixing the bug in modern X servers where they don't listen for tcp

    Have you considered adding “-listen tcp” to /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc or the equivalent for your display manager?

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