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    From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 27 17:05:05 2025
    Hello!

    On my 14.2 install (not upgraded from older versions), the dma MTA
    exists. I want to remove it entirely and replace it with real sendmail.

    pkg doesn't find the dma package installed on my system, but it is
    there and still being called when using the sendmail command.

    [m@teufel ~]$ /usr/sbin/sendmail -d0.1
    sendmail: no recipients
    [m@teufel ~]$

    This also has the effect that the scripts in the makefile don't work
    properly, as the dma binary is being called instead of sendmail.

    Any suggestions to remove it?

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    kind regards
    Marco

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  • From Bob Eager@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Sun Apr 27 15:21:34 2025
    On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 17:05:05 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:

    Hello!

    On my 14.2 install (not upgraded from older versions), the dma MTA
    exists. I want to remove it entirely and replace it with real sendmail.

    pkg doesn't find the dma package installed on my system, but it is there
    and still being called when using the sendmail command.

    [m@teufel ~]$ /usr/sbin/sendmail -d0.1 sendmail: no recipients [m@teufel
    ~]$

    This also has the effect that the scripts in the makefile don't work properly, as the dma binary is being called instead of sendmail.

    Any suggestions to remove it?

    See if /usr/local/etc/mail/mailer.conf exists. That will override /etc/ mail/mailer.conf, which normally points to sendmail.

    If so, move or delete it.



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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 27 17:25:38 2025
    On 27.04.2025 15:21 Uhr Bob Eager wrote:

    See if /usr/local/etc/mail/mailer.conf exists. That will override
    /etc/ mail/mailer.conf, which normally points to sendmail.

    /etc/mail/mailer.conf was the issue as it pointed to dma.
    I replaced it with /usr/share/examples/sendmail, seems to work.

    --
    kind regards
    Marco

    Send spam to 1745760094muell@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de

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  • From Bob Eager@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Sun Apr 27 21:20:25 2025
    On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 17:25:38 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:

    On 27.04.2025 15:21 Uhr Bob Eager wrote:

    See if /usr/local/etc/mail/mailer.conf exists. That will override /etc/
    mail/mailer.conf, which normally points to sendmail.

    /etc/mail/mailer.conf was the issue as it pointed to dma.
    I replaced it with /usr/share/examples/sendmail, seems to work.

    Glad it worked!

    --
    Using UNIX since v6 (1975)...

    Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
    http://www.mirrorservice.org

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  • From Ethan Carter@21:1/5 to Bob Eager on Mon Apr 28 01:02:20 2025
    Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> writes:

    On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 17:25:38 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:

    On 27.04.2025 15:21 Uhr Bob Eager wrote:

    See if /usr/local/etc/mail/mailer.conf exists. That will override /etc/
    mail/mailer.conf, which normally points to sendmail.

    /etc/mail/mailer.conf was the issue as it pointed to dma.
    I replaced it with /usr/share/examples/sendmail, seems to work.

    Glad it worked!

    Glad it worked! I confess I didn't like the news either. To be even
    more honest, I prefer qmail. Now that it's public domain, I find it
    curious that people don't use it and maintain it. It's so simple and so beautiful.

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  • From Bob Eager@21:1/5 to Ethan Carter on Mon Apr 28 06:35:51 2025
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 01:02:20 -0300, Ethan Carter wrote:

    Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> writes:

    On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 17:25:38 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:

    On 27.04.2025 15:21 Uhr Bob Eager wrote:

    See if /usr/local/etc/mail/mailer.conf exists. That will override
    /etc/
    mail/mailer.conf, which normally points to sendmail.

    /etc/mail/mailer.conf was the issue as it pointed to dma.
    I replaced it with /usr/share/examples/sendmail, seems to work.

    Glad it worked!

    Glad it worked! I confess I didn't like the news either. To be even
    more honest, I prefer qmail. Now that it's public domain, I find it
    curious that people don't use it and maintain it. It's so simple and so beautiful.

    I've been using postfix for many years. Absolutely solid, and this is a
    net facing server.



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  • From Bud Frede@21:1/5 to Bob Eager on Sat May 3 14:29:22 2025
    Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> writes:

    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 01:02:20 -0300, Ethan Carter wrote:

    Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> writes:

    On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 17:25:38 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:

    On 27.04.2025 15:21 Uhr Bob Eager wrote:

    See if /usr/local/etc/mail/mailer.conf exists. That will override
    /etc/
    mail/mailer.conf, which normally points to sendmail.

    /etc/mail/mailer.conf was the issue as it pointed to dma.
    I replaced it with /usr/share/examples/sendmail, seems to work.

    Glad it worked!

    Glad it worked! I confess I didn't like the news either. To be even
    more honest, I prefer qmail. Now that it's public domain, I find it
    curious that people don't use it and maintain it. It's so simple and so
    beautiful.

    I've been using postfix for many years. Absolutely solid, and this is a
    net facing server.

    I was around for the flamewars between DJB and Wietse Venema. :-) I did
    like qmail, but it got rather stagnant after Dan moved on to other
    things. I started using Postfix and found that I really liked it.

    Postfix, Dovecot, Unbound and NSD were what I wound up with. I no longer
    do much with mailservers, and my days of being a hostmaster are past,
    but I do use Unbound for local DNS a fair bit. (I've got it on my home
    pfSense firewall too.)

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  • From Ethan Carter@21:1/5 to Bud Frede on Mon May 5 21:37:39 2025
    Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> writes:

    Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> writes:

    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 01:02:20 -0300, Ethan Carter wrote:

    Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> writes:

    On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 17:25:38 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:

    On 27.04.2025 15:21 Uhr Bob Eager wrote:

    See if /usr/local/etc/mail/mailer.conf exists. That will override
    /etc/
    mail/mailer.conf, which normally points to sendmail.

    /etc/mail/mailer.conf was the issue as it pointed to dma.
    I replaced it with /usr/share/examples/sendmail, seems to work.

    Glad it worked!

    Glad it worked! I confess I didn't like the news either. To be even
    more honest, I prefer qmail. Now that it's public domain, I find it
    curious that people don't use it and maintain it. It's so simple and so >>> beautiful.

    I've been using postfix for many years. Absolutely solid, and this is a
    net facing server.

    I was around for the flamewars between DJB and Wietse Venema. :-)

    Would you be able to recover the whole discussion? I'd like to go
    through it.

    I did like qmail, but it got rather stagnant after Dan moved on to
    other things. I started using Postfix and found that I really liked
    it.

    What's there to continue, though, beyond the patches that people wrote?
    I'm running qmail with TLS, SPF and DKIM. I don't adhere to DMARC, but
    I wouldn't in any other case.

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