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    From The Doctor@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 16 01:25:15 2025
    Just wondering if FreeBSD Can do end-to-end encrypted talk as a server.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Dan Cross on Fri May 16 15:44:26 2025
    In article <1007lps$b3f$1@reader1.panix.com>,
    Dan Cross <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote:
    In article <100645r$25oq$15@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
    The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
    Just wondering if FreeBSD Can do end-to-end encrypted talk as a server.


    By "talk" do you mean `talk(1)` etc? If so, then the answer is
    no, unfortunately. I don't believe that `talk` or `ntalk` was
    ever a protocol that supported encryption. Of course, it is
    possible that someone created a local variant at some site that
    did, but if so, it was not widespread.

    - Dan C.


    Now. More current technologies.

    Audio and Video supported.
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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to Dan Cross on Fri May 16 15:46:04 2025
    In article <1007lps$b3f$1@reader1.panix.com>,
    Dan Cross <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote:
    In article <100645r$25oq$15@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
    The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
    Just wondering if FreeBSD Can do end-to-end encrypted talk as a server.


    By "talk" do you mean `talk(1)` etc? If so, then the answer is
    no, unfortunately. I don't believe that `talk` or `ntalk` was
    ever a protocol that supported encryption. Of course, it is
    possible that someone created a local variant at some site that
    did, but if so, it was not widespread.

    - Dan C.


    Maybe you could dummy up something with stunnel.

    I think "talk" is pretty much unused these days though.
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  • From Dan Cross@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 16 15:57:22 2025
    In article <m8p4tsFkcqkU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <1007lps$b3f$1@reader1.panix.com>,
    Dan Cross <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote:
    In article <100645r$25oq$15@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
    The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
    Just wondering if FreeBSD Can do end-to-end encrypted talk as a server.


    By "talk" do you mean `talk(1)` etc? If so, then the answer is
    no, unfortunately. I don't believe that `talk` or `ntalk` was
    ever a protocol that supported encryption. Of course, it is
    possible that someone created a local variant at some site that
    did, but if so, it was not widespread.

    Maybe you could dummy up something with stunnel.

    Perhaps?

    I think "talk" is pretty much unused these days though.

    Yeah, pretty much. It relies on shipping around a (binary!!)
    `struct sockaddr_in` in a UDP packet, and never evolved into the
    age of modern age of firewalls with NAT, and of course, never
    supported encryption or authentication.

    I have a 1/3rd complete replacement sitting around that I should
    wrap up and publish. I suspect it would have essentially no use
    though. :-)

    - Dan C.

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  • From Dan Cross@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Fri May 16 15:59:05 2025
    In article <1007mgq$m65$3@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
    The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
    In article <1007lps$b3f$1@reader1.panix.com>,
    Dan Cross <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote:
    In article <100645r$25oq$15@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
    The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
    Just wondering if FreeBSD Can do end-to-end encrypted talk as a server.


    By "talk" do you mean `talk(1)` etc? If so, then the answer is
    no, unfortunately. I don't believe that `talk` or `ntalk` was
    ever a protocol that supported encryption. Of course, it is
    possible that someone created a local variant at some site that
    did, but if so, it was not widespread.

    Now. More current technologies.

    Audio and Video supported.

    If there is specific software that implements those things that
    you have in mind, I can't think of any structural reason why it
    couldn't be ported to run on FreeBSD.

    Whether anyone will actually do so is another matter.

    - Dan C.

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  • From Dan Cross@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Fri May 16 15:32:12 2025
    In article <100645r$25oq$15@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
    The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
    Just wondering if FreeBSD Can do end-to-end encrypted talk as a server.


    By "talk" do you mean `talk(1)` etc? If so, then the answer is
    no, unfortunately. I don't believe that `talk` or `ntalk` was
    ever a protocol that supported encryption. Of course, it is
    possible that someone created a local variant at some site that
    did, but if so, it was not widespread.

    - Dan C.

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 16 21:09:59 2025
    On 16.05.2025 15:32 Uhr Dan Cross wrote:

    By "talk" do you mean `talk(1)` etc? If so, then the answer is
    no, unfortunately. I don't believe that `talk` or `ntalk` was
    ever a protocol that supported encryption. Of course, it is
    possible that someone created a local variant at some site that
    did, but if so, it was not widespread.

    Isn't it possible to connect the systems through an encrypted tunnel,
    e.g. IPsec, and then use that for communication?

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  • From Koen Martens@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 17 07:54:24 2025
    Den 2025-05-16 kl. 21:09, skrev Marco Moock:
    On 16.05.2025 15:32 Uhr Dan Cross wrote:

    By "talk" do you mean `talk(1)` etc? If so, then the answer is
    no, unfortunately. I don't believe that `talk` or `ntalk` was
    ever a protocol that supported encryption. Of course, it is
    possible that someone created a local variant at some site that
    did, but if so, it was not widespread.

    Isn't it possible to connect the systems through an encrypted tunnel,
    e.g. IPsec, and then use that for communication?


    That still wouldn't be "end-to-end encryption", since the path from the
    talk program to and through the netwerk stack, until it hits the
    encrypted tunnel, would all be plain text and potentially available for snooping (by your admin for eg, but then again, if you don't trust your
    admin, all bets are off).

    Cheers,

    Koen

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