I've been trying both X and Wayland and they both show similar failings:
1. despite having the desktop set to restore the session on last
logout, it doesn't. Indeed, right now that only app that seems to
open is GKrellM
2. When I try to shut down or start my computer, I don't get the panel
that gives me options. Instead the computer becomes non-responsive
for 30 seconds before doing what I asked on the menu (same if I hit
ctrl-alt-del).
3. When I open a window, it doesn't restore to the previous size or
position.
I'm using Wayland right now, and it's not really living up to its hype
as being faster than X. When I try to log back in after the screen
locks, I have to wait until the screen actually wakes up before I can
enter my password.
I *think* restoring the position can't be done on wayland, but maybe I'm mistaken about that.
Restoring window size does work for me, though.
Am Montag, den 28. Oktober schrieb Johannes Zarl-Zierl:
I *think* restoring the position can't be done on wayland, but maybe I'm mistaken about that.
Restoring window size does work for me, though.
If this is true, it is showstopper.
I’m heavily using virtual desktops and session management.
Having a session “restored” by cluttering several dozends windows
from 8 virtual desktops on the first virtual desktop, makes the
system totally unusable.
Hi bmg,
Am Dienstag, 29. Oktober 2024, 09:36:58 CET schrieb M G Berberich:
Am Montag, den 28. Oktober schrieb Johannes Zarl-Zierl:Apart from the session management currently not working at all, that was not what I meant. The window manager *is* able to position windows anywhere on the
I *think* restoring the position can't be done on wayland, but maybe I'm >>> mistaken about that.If this is true, it is showstopper.
Restoring window size does work for me, though.
I’m heavily using virtual desktops and session management.
Having a session “restored” by cluttering several dozends windows
from 8 virtual desktops on the first virtual desktop, makes the
system totally unusable.
screen, but the application itself can not say "I want to open myself at position X,Y" as it could on X11 (if my information is correct).
Virtual desktops are totally unaffected by this anyways and have nothing to do
with window position.
Cheers,
Johannes
I've switched back to X11 because Wayland is worse. I also like that it offers finer-grained control of display scaling.
I've switched back to X11 because Wayland is worse. I also like that it offers finer-grained control of display scaling.
Under X11, I am now getting the desktop apps from the first virtual
desktop remembering their positions but apart from GKrellM, nothing
restores on the other desktops. This includes KDE apps such as Konsole, Dolphin and Kontact.
Am Dienstag, 29. Oktober 2024, 09:36:58 CET schrieb M G Berberich:
Am Montag, den 28. Oktober schrieb Johannes Zarl-Zierl:
I *think* restoring the position can't be done on wayland, but maybe I'm mistaken about that.
Restoring window size does work for me, though.
If this is true, it is showstopper.
I’m heavily using virtual desktops and session management.
Having a session “restored” by cluttering several dozends windows
from 8 virtual desktops on the first virtual desktop, makes the
system totally unusable.
Apart from the session management currently not working at all, that
was not what I meant.
The window manager *is* able to position
windows anywhere on the
screen, but the application itself can not
say "I want to open myseflf at position X,Y" as it could on X11 (if
my information is correct). Virtual desktops are totally unaffected
by this anyways and have nothing to do with window position.
Hello,
Am Dienstag, den 29. Oktober schrieb Johannes Zarl-Zierl:
Am Dienstag, 29. Oktober 2024, 09:36:58 CET schrieb M G Berberich:Than I missunderstood.
Am Montag, den 28. Oktober schrieb Johannes Zarl-Zierl:Apart from the session management currently not working at all, that
I *think* restoring the position can't be done on wayland, but maybe I'm >>>> mistaken about that.If this is true, it is showstopper.
Restoring window size does work for me, though.
I’m heavily using virtual desktops and session management.
Having a session “restored” by cluttering several dozends windows
from 8 virtual desktops on the first virtual desktop, makes the
system totally unusable.
was not what I meant.
The window manager *is* able to positionI’m wondering how the windowmanager knowns how to restore a lot of firefox-windows on the correct desktops…
windows anywhere on the
screen, but the application itself can not
say "I want to open myseflf at position X,Y" as it could on X11 (if
my information is correct). Virtual desktops are totally unaffected
by this anyways and have nothing to do with window position.
MfG
bmg
On 2024-10-30 10:58, M G Berberich wrote:
Hello,Pleased to see the Shutdown options panel appear when I went to reboot
Am Dienstag, den 29. Oktober schrieb Johannes Zarl-Zierl:
Am Dienstag, 29. Oktober 2024, 09:36:58 CET schrieb M G Berberich:Than I missunderstood.
Am Montag, den 28. Oktober schrieb Johannes Zarl-Zierl:Apart from the session management currently not working at all, that
I *think* restoring the position can't be done on wayland, butIf this is true, it is showstopper.
maybe I'm
mistaken about that.
Restoring window size does work for me, though.
I’m heavily using virtual desktops and session management.
Having a session “restored” by cluttering several dozends windows
from 8 virtual desktops on the first virtual desktop, makes the
system totally unusable.
was not what I meant.
The window manager *is* able to positionI’m wondering how the windowmanager knowns how to restore a lot of
windows anywhere on the
screen, but the application itself can not
say "I want to open myseflf at position X,Y" as it could on X11 (if
my information is correct). Virtual desktops are totally unaffected
by this anyways and have nothing to do with window position.
firefox-windows on the correct desktops…
MfG
bmg
my workstation after this morning's full-upgrade. I'm still not seeing applications being restored unless they are on the first virtual
desktop however - with the exception of gkrellm which restored
properly on desktop 2 and filezilla which restored, but to desktop 1
I decided to give Wayland another go but note that Spectacle's
recording feature still does not appear to be working. And simple
screen recorder still doesn't work with Wayland. This leaves me
without a screen recorder.
Please note: theses are not complaints against the people trying to
make things work. This is simply a status report on the current state
of affairs on my workstation.
Also, I note that gkrellm and FileZilla are being restored to desktop 1 instead of the ones they were open on. And FileZilla is being restored twice, so I have to close one instance.
Le 14 décembre 2024 15:59:16 GMT+01:00, Gary Dale<gary@extremeground.com> a écrit :
[…]
Also, I note that gkrellm and FileZilla are being restored to desktop 1 instead of the ones they were open on. And FileZilla is being restored twice, so I have to close one instance.This is<https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336990>. It has a low priority now that the main target is Wayland.
Happy hacking,
--
Aurélien
1. all my programs came up on virtual desktop 1 and were in the centre
of the screen (except for gkrellm - correct position but wrong
desktop
4. Spectacle screen recording still doesn't work.
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