Hi Frank, hi.

Frank Mehnert - 12.03.25, 11:26 CET/CEST:

I just realized that kmail2 6.3.2 uses a long format for inserting the
time including the name of the time zone when replying to an e-mail.
Just have a look at some of the recent answers in this mailing list,
e.g. the one from

Martin 2 days ago:

MERLIN Philippe - 10.03.25, 10:51:05 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit:

Another e-mail from Martin from 2025-02-12 shows

Erwan David - 12.02.25, 10:17:00 MEZ:

And of course I see this in my own e-mails as well.

Yes, I noticed this as well.

To me it's a little bit annoying that the time zone is spelled out. I
use a workaround and changed the corresponding templates to use
'%OTIME' instead of '%OTIMELONG' but maybe there is a better fix.

For now I hard code "CET/CEST" after "%OTIME" into the template (see
above). Whenever I remember I delete the wrong one.

I wonder whether that is somehow related to the update to Qt 6.8.2. Might
be good to look for KMail upstream bug report in https://bugs.kde.org –
and if none is there report it.

This week is really busy for me so not going to do this right now.

In case anyone does it, please post link here.

Best,
--
Martin - please no carbon copy to me

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Hej,

Am Dienstag, 25. März 2025, 22:59:11 CET schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
[...]

For now I hard code "CET/CEST" after "%OTIME" into the template (see
above). Whenever I remember I delete the wrong one.

There are probably better options, e.g. %OTIMELONGEN. Kmail offers you a
list of all templates you can use.

I wonder whether that is somehow related to the update to Qt 6.8.2.
Might be good to look for KMail upstream bug report in
https://bugs.kde.org – and if none is there report it.

I'm not sure this is a Kmail bug if it is a bug at all, because I
couldn't find any changes in KDEPIM that could explain this. I suspect
it's either something in Qt reg. the locale for the standard time that
changed or maybe something in a library that Qt is using. But that's
just a guess.


--
Med vänliga hälsningar

Patrick Franz

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Hi!

Patrick Franz - 25.03.25, 23:42:03 CET:

Am Dienstag, 25. März 2025, 22:59:11 CET schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
[...]

For now I hard code "CET/CEST" after "%OTIME" into the template (see above). Whenever I remember I delete the wrong one.

There are probably better options, e.g. %OTIMELONGEN. Kmail offers you a
list of all templates you can use.

Oh, seems %OTIMELONGEN gives me back what I had with %OTIMELONG. And given that, "CET" as I had before %OTIMELONG is not actually a translation at
all. So seems what appeared like a bug to me first might be a feature: %OTIMELONG finally being translated. Only thing that is used the long name instead of "MEZ" as German language equivalent of "CET".

Might be better to use the English language variant anyway as quite some
of my mails are to international mailing lists.

Best,
--
Martin

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On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 08:44:04AM CET, Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> said:

Hi!

Patrick Franz - 25.03.25, 23:42:03 CET:

Am Dienstag, 25. März 2025, 22:59:11 CET schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
[...]

For now I hard code "CET/CEST" after "%OTIME" into the template (see above). Whenever I remember I delete the wrong one.

There are probably better options, e.g. %OTIMELONGEN. Kmail offers you a list of all templates you can use.

Oh, seems %OTIMELONGEN gives me back what I had with %OTIMELONG. And given that, "CET" as I had before %OTIMELONG is not actually a translation at
all. So seems what appeared like a bug to me first might be a feature: %OTIMELONG finally being translated. Only thing that is used the long name instead of "MEZ" as German language equivalent of "CET".

Might be better to use the English language variant anyway as quite some
of my mails are to international mailing lists.

I think the translation is just what is displayed for you: headers are still in international format.

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Erwan David

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Erwan David - 26.03.25, 08:47:08 CET:

Oh, seems %OTIMELONGEN gives me back what I had with %OTIMELONG. And
given that, "CET" as I had before %OTIMELONG is not actually a
translation at all. So seems what appeared like a bug to me first
might be a feature: %OTIMELONG finally being translated. Only thing
that is used the long name instead of "MEZ" as German language
equivalent of "CET".

Might be better to use the English language variant anyway as quite
some of my mails are to international mailing lists.

I think the translation is just what is displayed for you: headers are
still in international format.

Templates are just for mail body text. Not for headers which are
standardized to a certain format. Well at least most of them.

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Martin

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