Hello,

I have a few issues after the upgrade from bookworm to trixie:

1) sddm shows an on-screen keyboard on a regular desktop. I can switch to the normal keyboard, but that looks wrong

2) kdeconnect 24.12.0 on trixie does not connect to kdeconnect 1.33.2 on Android anymore. Some Android phone connects flawless to kdeconnect 24.12.3 on a Manjaro system.

3) When I log in again, all windows open on a single desktop and not on the desktop where they have been before the previous logout

4) In kmail some folders are missing for an imap account (with many folders). On the imap server, the all mail folders are present.

5) "Could not create collection ..." error message (see previous mail)

Any hints or advice is welcome.

Thanks
Rainer

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http://bokomoko.de/
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Rainer,

On Saturday, April 19, 2025 1:55:08 PM Mountain Standard Time Rainer
Dorsch wrote:

Hello,

I have a few issues after the upgrade from bookworm to trixie:

1) sddm shows an on-screen keyboard on a regular desktop. I can
switch to the normal keyboard, but that looks wrong

This has been much discussed on the mailing list. The situation has
improved a bit, but it still happens to me from time to time,
particularly after the screen has been locked (but not consistently).
You can resolve the problem by removing a certain package (I don’t
remember which), but it really would be nice if this could be fixed
before trixie.

2) kdeconnect 24.12.0 on trixie does not connect to kdeconnect
1.33.2 on Android anymore. Some Android phone connects flawless to
kdeconnect 24.12.3 on a Manjaro system.

It works for me with KDE Connect 1.33.3, although I do remember that
at some point when one of the versions hit testing I had to re-pair
KDE Connect with my desktop.

3) When I log in again, all windows open on a single desktop and not
on the desktop where they have been before the previous logout

This is an issue that has been discussed on the mailing list. If I
remember correctly, it works in X11, but not in Wayland. The upgrade
switches to Wayland by default, but you can go back to X11 if you
like.

4) In kmail some folders are missing for an imap account (with many
folders). On the imap server, the all mail folders are present.

This probably needs some more troubleshooting, and perhaps a bug
report. At a minimum, it would be nice to know what IMAP server you
are using and how many folders we are talking about. Also, any error
messages might help point in the right direction.

Kmail works fine for me with about 30 folders and courier-imap.

--
Soren Stoutner
soren@debian.org
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On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 22:55:08 +0200
Rainer Dorsch <ml@bokomoko.de> wrote:

2) kdeconnect 24.12.0 on trixie does not connect to kdeconnect 1.33.2
on Android anymore. Some Android phone connects flawless to
kdeconnect 24.12.3 on a Manjaro system.

This could be caused by the introduction of a firewall that is on by
default and set-up by Plasma 6.

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Am Samstag, 19. April 2025, 23:36:18 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit schrieb Soren Stoutner:

4) In kmail some folders are missing for an imap account (with many folders). On the imap server, the all mail folders are present.

This probably needs some more troubleshooting, and perhaps a bug
report.

I am happy to open a bug report, do you have a suggestion what debugging information should be included?

At a minimum, it would be nice to know what IMAP server you
are using

dovecot on Debian bookworm.

and how many folders we are talking about.

~ 1400

Also, any error
messages might help point in the right direction.

I don't get any error message. What I observed though:

- akonadiconsole has all folders
- kmail server subscription menu has also all folders and all of them are selected
- in kmail local subscriptions and kmail folder list some folders are missing

Kmail works fine for me with about 30 folders and courier-imap.

I only observed that some folders are missing, other than that, I also don't observe problems.

Thanks
Rainer

--
Rainer Dorsch
http://bokomoko.de/
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Am Samstag, 19. April 2025, 23:36:18 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit schrieb Soren Stoutner:

3) When I log in again, all windows open on a single desktop and not
on the desktop where they have been before the previous logout

This is an issue that has been discussed on the mailing list. If I
remember correctly, it works in X11, but not in Wayland. The upgrade switches to Wayland by default, but you can go back to X11 if you
like.

If nobody objects, I would add that answer to

https://wiki.debian.org/Plasma%206

For me it is not a serious issue, since I restart my session rarely. But I wanted to be sure that it is not a simple setting issue.

Thanks
Rainer

--
Rainer Dorsch
http://bokomoko.de/
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Am Samstag, 19. April 2025, 23:36:18 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit schrieb Soren Stoutner:

1) sddm shows an on-screen keyboard on a regular desktop. I can

switch to the normal keyboard, but that looks wrong

This has been much discussed on the mailing list. The situation has
improved a bit, but it still happens to me from time to time,
particularly after the screen has been locked (but not consistently).
You can resolve the problem by removing a certain package (I don’t
remember which), but it really would be nice if this could be fixed
before trixie.

Thanks for the pointer. I found a good answer in

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1091343#22

The default Plasma install uses sddm-theme-debian-breeze which correctly detects this condition and won’t show the virtual keyboard without a reason.

I’ll probably move the dependency on qt6-virtualkeyboard-plugin from sddm itself to the greeter themes that correctly supports touch detection since enough people are seeing this, but it would be better if all greeter themes or SDDM itself fix the issue.

For people being bothered by the issue and not needing the virtual keyboard you can already uninstall the qt6-virtualkeyboard-plugin and be done.


I would also add this one to https://wiki.debian.org/Plasma%206 if nobody objects.

Thanks
Rainer

--
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http://bokomoko.de/

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I’ll probably move the dependency on qt6-virtualkeyboard-plugin from sddm itself to the greeter themes that correctly supports touch detection since enough people are seeing this, but it would be better if all greeter themes or SDDM itself fix the issue.

I hope that theme is the default, not having the virtual keyboard means users on phones and tablets can't login.


--
Salvo Tomaselli

"Io non mi sento obbligato a credere che lo stesso Dio che ci ha dotato di senso, ragione ed intelletto intendesse che noi ne facessimo a meno."
-- Galileo Galilei

https://ltworf.codeberg.page/
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On Sunday, 20 April 2025 23:44:01 CEST Salvo Tomaselli wrote:

I’ll probably move the dependency on qt6-virtualkeyboard-plugin from sddm itself to the greeter themes that correctly supports touch detection since enough people are seeing this, but it would be better if all greeter
themes
or SDDM itself fix the issue.

I hope that theme is the default, not having the virtual keyboard means
users on phones and tablets can't login.

I added a few entries in https://wiki.debian.org/Plasma%206 and opened a bug report against plasma-firewall:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1103774

Let's hope that the issue gets resolved before the trixie release.

Thanks
Rainer

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http://bokomoko.de/
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On Sunday, April 20, 2025 5:26:50 AM Mountain Standard Time Rainer
Dorsch wrote:

Am Samstag, 19. April 2025, 23:36:18 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit
schrieb
Soren Stoutner:

4) In kmail some folders are missing for an imap account (with
many
folders). On the imap server, the all mail folders are present.

This probably needs some more troubleshooting, and perhaps a bug
report.

I am happy to open a bug report, do you have a suggestion what
debugging information should be included?

I would recommend opening the bug against Kmail with all the
information you have. Hopefully someone has some idea of the root
cause or some procedure for sussing out further information. The bug
can be reassigned to a different package (like akonadi or dovecot) if
it ends up not being Kmails’ problem.

At a minimum, it would be nice to know what IMAP server you
are using

dovecot on Debian bookworm.

and how many folders we are talking about.

~ 1400

Also, any error
messages might help point in the right direction.

I don't get any error message. What I observed though:

- akonadiconsole has all folders
- kmail server subscription menu has also all folders and all of
them are selected
- in kmail local subscriptions and kmail folder list some folders
are missing

Kmail works fine for me with about 30 folders and courier-imap.

I only observed that some folders are missing, other than that, I
also don't observe problems.

Thanks
Rainer

--
Soren Stoutner
soren@debian.org
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Am Freitag, 9. Mai 2025, 08:07:39 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit schrieb Hefee:

Hey,

4) In kmail some folders are missing for an imap account (with
many
folders). On the imap server, the all mail folders are present.

This probably needs some more troubleshooting, and perhaps a bug report.

I am happy to open a bug report, do you have a suggestion what
debugging information should be included?

I would recommend opening the bug against Kmail with all the
information you have. Hopefully someone has some idea of the root
cause or some procedure for sussing out further information. The bug
can be reassigned to a different package (like akonadi or dovecot) if
it ends up not being Kmails’ problem.

I face the same issue like rainer that some folders are not showing up in KMail but all are visible in akonadiconsole. Very visible it is for my ionos.de address , where my INBOX is affeced. But also for my dovecot
handled address.

my workaraound is to reset the content types in the properties of the
folders via akonadiconsole (right click on the folder select "Folder Properties". For me the "content types" is empty than the folder is invisible. So I add "message/rfc822" to the content types close the dialog via Ok. Reopen it and add "inode/directory" close again and voila the
folder is visible and useable in kmail.

The strange thing on database level it has both mimetypes already attached. Removing and readding the mimetpyes triggers something that fixes the invisible state of the folder.

And this workaround only works till you restart akonadi.

I even see the issue after deleting and re-adding the imap account.

I also just noticed that I see an at least very similar issue on a Manjaro system (with the same imap account). So it might be an upstream issue.

I see that on folders in the 6th hierarchy level. Do you see it on top-level folders?

Thanks
Rainer


--
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http://bokomoko.de/
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Am Montag, 21. April 2025, 20:16:00 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit schrieben Sie:

On Sunday, April 20, 2025 5:26:50 AM Mountain Standard Time Rainer

Dorsch wrote:

Am Samstag, 19. April 2025, 23:36:18 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit
schrieb

Soren Stoutner:

4) In kmail some folders are missing for an imap account (with
many
folders). On the imap server, the all mail folders are present.

This probably needs some more troubleshooting, and perhaps a bug
report.

I am happy to open a bug report, do you have a suggestion what
debugging information should be included?

I would recommend opening the bug against Kmail with all the
information you have. Hopefully someone has some idea of the root
cause or some procedure for sussing out further information. The bug
can be reassigned to a different package (like akonadi or dovecot) if
it ends up not being Kmails’ problem.

Hi Soren,

many thanks for your reply.

The problem also occured in kmail running on Manjaro. But with the Manjaro stable upgrade today to Version 6.4.2 (25.04.2) the issue is gone. Could also be a fix in e.g. akonadi though.

On trixie with kmail 24.12.3 I still see the issue. I assume it is too late to do kmail upgrade on trixie, given that 25.04 is not even in experimental.

I will open a bug report against kmail, though I have little hope that somebody is able to identify the right fix in the kmail commits and the regression against bullseye gets fixed.

Thanks
Rainer


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