• Versions mismatch and upload methodology for KDE applications

    From Shmerl@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 4 21:10:01 2022
    I noticed that versions of KDE applications in Debian repos are
    all over the place. Examples:

    kmail: 22.08.2
    konsole: 22.08.1
    okular: 22.04.3
    and etc.

    So method of uploading them seems random or ad hoc.

    Why aren't KDE maintainers uploading the whole suite of
    applications at once for all of them to have the same version?

    Thanks!

    Shmerl.

    <div dir="ltr"><div>I noticed that versions of KDE applications in Debian repos are</div><div>all over the place. Examples:</div><div><br></div><div>kmail: 22.08.2</div><div>konsole: 22.08.1</div><div>okular: 22.04.3</div><div></div><div>and etc.</div><
    <br></div><div>So method of uploading them seems random or ad hoc.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Why aren&#39;t KDE maintainers uploading the whole suite of</div><div>applications at once for all of them to have the same version?</div><div><br></div><
    Thanks!</div><div><br></div><div>Shmerl.<br> </div></div>

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  • From Luigi Toscano@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 4 22:10:01 2022
    Shmerl ha scritto:
    I noticed that versions of KDE applications in Debian repos are
    all over the place. Examples:

    kmail: 22.08.2
    konsole: 22.08.1
    okular: 22.04.3
    and etc.

    So method of uploading them seems random or ad hoc.

    Why aren't KDE maintainers uploading the whole suite of
    applications at once for all of them to have the same version?

    I can't speak for the maintainers, but please consider that those programs are part of KDE Gear, which is just a collection of software which is released together, but it doesn't automatically imply a dependency between the various applications. There may be some (for example, all bits which mades KDE PIM)
    but that's not the general rule, so they can be updated separately.

    --
    Luigi

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  • From Shmerl@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 4 22:30:01 2022
    Yeah, I get that they don't always depend on each other,
    but it's more about keeping them up to date in the repos.

    I thought it might be easier to upload them all at once,
    that's why I was asking about methodology of updating
    them in Debian.

    Shmerl.

    On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:59 PM Luigi Toscano <luigi.toscano@tiscali.it>
    wrote:

    I can't speak for the maintainers, but please consider that those programs are
    part of KDE Gear, which is just a collection of software which is released together, but it doesn't automatically imply a dependency between the
    various
    applications. There may be some (for example, all bits which mades KDE PIM) but that's not the general rule, so they can be updated separately.


    <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Yeah, I get that they don&#39;t always depend on each other,</div><div>but it&#39;s more about keeping them up to date in the repos.</div><div><br></div><div>I thought it might be easier to upload them all at once,</div>
    <div>that&#39;s why I was asking about methodology of updating<br></div><div>them in Debian.</div><div><br></div><div>Shmerl.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:59 PM Luigi Toscano &lt;<
    a href="mailto:luigi.toscano@tiscali.it">luigi.toscano@tiscali.it</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I can&#39;t speak for the maintainers, but
    please consider that those programs are<br>
    part of KDE Gear, which is just a collection of software which is released<br> together, but it doesn&#39;t automatically imply a dependency between the various<br>
    applications. There may be some (for example, all bits which mades KDE PIM)<br> but that&#39;s not the general rule, so they can be updated separately.<br> </blockquote></div></div>

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  • From Patrick Franz@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 10 23:50:01 2022
    Hej,

    Am Freitag, 4. November 2022, 20:47:41 CET schrieb Shmerl:
    I noticed that versions of KDE applications in Debian repos are
    all over the place. Examples:

    kmail: 22.08.2
    konsole: 22.08.1
    okular: 22.04.3
    and etc.

    So method of uploading them seems random or ad hoc.

    Why aren't KDE maintainers uploading the whole suite of
    applications at once for all of them to have the same version?

    In short, lack of manpower.

    We've automated the packaging of the Frameworks, Plasma and PIM for the
    most part, but Gear isn't quite there yet for various reasons.

    If you're interested in getting everything up-to-date, feel free to join
    the effort.


    --
    Med vänliga hälsningar

    Patrick Franz

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  • From Martin Steigerwald@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 12 11:50:01 2022
    Luigi Toscano - 04.11.22, 21:58:58 CET:
    Shmerl ha scritto:
    I noticed that versions of KDE applications in Debian repos are
    all over the place. Examples:

    kmail: 22.08.2
    konsole: 22.08.1
    okular: 22.04.3
    and etc.

    So method of uploading them seems random or ad hoc.

    Why aren't KDE maintainers uploading the whole suite of
    applications at once for all of them to have the same version?

    I can't speak for the maintainers, but please consider that those
    programs are part of KDE Gear, which is just a collection of software
    which is released together, but it doesn't automatically imply a
    dependency between the various applications. There may be some (for
    example, all bits which mades KDE PIM) but that's not the general
    rule, so they can be updated separately.

    Additionally the version numbers of all apps are updated on each KDE
    Gear release, no matter whether there have been changes to them.

    That written for Okular for example I expect changes on every major KDE
    Gear release.

    Also it can happen that for some reason a package needs to go through
    NEW again and approved by ftpmasters.

    Thanks,
    --
    Martin

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