• Re: Plasma with Wayland: No ssh-agent started automatically?

    From Martin Steigerwald@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 14 23:10:02 2023
    Martin Steigerwald - 14.02.23, 22:27:16 CET:
    Do I really need to start ssh-agent by hand with Plasma (Wayland)
    session type?

    Never mind.

    That is not the only issue. Kick off menu with scaling 150% spanning the
    whole 1920x1080 laptop screen and artifacts while typing in Konsole are
    other issues with Wayland.

    That still does not appear to be ready for me.

    Maybe some day.

    Thanks,
    --
    Martin

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  • From Martin Steigerwald@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 14 22:30:01 2023
    Hi!

    I just switched the session type from Plasma (X11) to Plasma (Wayland).
    No ssh-agent is started automatically anymore.

    There is an older forum post about this:

    ssh-agent not started in Wayland
    https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?t=153769

    Do I really need to start ssh-agent by hand with Plasma (Wayland)
    session type?

    Thanks,
    --
    Martin

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  • From Dietz Proepper@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 15 08:32:07 2023
    Am Dienstag, 14. Februar 2023, 23:07:52 CET schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
    Martin Steigerwald - 14.02.23, 22:27:16 CET:
    Do I really need to start ssh-agent by hand with Plasma (Wayland)
    session type?

    Never mind.

    I tried some weeks back and it seemed that there *was* a ssh-agent running,
    but some processes had SSH_AGENT.* set and some not. For reasons I did not investigate further, it seemed to depend on how child processes were spawned.

    That is not the only issue. Kick off menu with scaling 150% spanning the whole 1920x1080 laptop screen and artifacts while typing in Konsole are
    other issues with Wayland.

    Multi screen setups, esp. with different scaling factors seem to have issues, too.

    And any scaling factor different from 100% led to blurring, even in text.

    That still does not appear to be ready for me.

    Maybe some day.

    I have a recurring event "Test Wayland & KDE" every December ;-).

    Regards,
    Dietz
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  • From Shmerl@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 19 04:40:01 2023
    I think this happened to me before.

    I've been using KDE Wayland session for a while, but I also switched to
    systemd boot for KDE, may be that helped with ssh-agent.

    Here are some details: https://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/plasma-and-the-systemd-startup/


    To enable it:

    kwriteconfig5 --file startkderc --group General --key systemdBoot true

    Not sure about kick-off issues, I'm using fullscreen Aplication Dashboard,
    and it works fine.

    Never had issues with typing in Konsole (I have AMD GPU).

    If you have some problems with Wayland session - better report bugs, so they wouldn't get lost. I've reported a bunch in the past, and they were fixed.

    Regards,
    Shmerl.

    <div dir="ltr"><div>I think this happened to me before.</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve been using KDE Wayland session for a while, but I also switched to</div><div>systemd boot for KDE, may be that helped with ssh-agent.</div><div><br></div><div>Here
    are some details:</div><div><a href="https://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/plasma-and-the-systemd-startup/">https://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/plasma-and-the-systemd-startup/</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>To enable it:</div><div></
    <div><pre><code class="gmail-language-sh">kwriteconfig5 --file startkderc --group General --key systemdBoot true<br><br></code></pre></div></div><div>Not sure about kick-off issues, I&#39;m using fullscreen Aplication Dashboard,</div><div>and it
    works fine.</div><div><br></div><div>Never had issues with typing in Konsole (I have AMD GPU).</div><div><br></div><div>If you have some problems with Wayland session - better report bugs, so they</div><div>wouldn&#39;t get lost. I&#39;ve reported a
    bunch in the past, and they were fixed.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Shmerl.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>

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  • From Martin Steigerwald@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 19 10:20:01 2023
    Shmerl - 19.02.23, 04:21:16 CET:
    I've been using KDE Wayland session for a while, but I also switched
    to systemd boot for KDE, may be that helped with ssh-agent.

    Here are some details: https://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/plasma-and-the-systemd-startup/


    To enable it:

    kwriteconfig5 --file startkderc --group General --key systemdBoot true

    Not sure about kick-off issues, I'm using fullscreen Aplication
    Dashboard, and it works fine.

    Haha, no systemd running here.

    But good tip that is could be related to the way Plasma is starting up.

    If you have some problems with Wayland session - better report bugs,
    so they wouldn't get lost. I've reported a bunch in the past, and
    they were fixed.

    Sure. Just currently not much time for that, so much other stuff.

    Best,
    --
    Martin

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  • From chris@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 19 18:30:01 2023
    On Sunday, 19 February 2023 10:13:20 CET Martin Steigerwald wrote:
    Shmerl - 19.02.23, 04:21:16 CET:
    I've been using KDE Wayland session for a while, but I also switched
    to systemd boot for KDE, may be that helped with ssh-agent.

    I've been using wayland for 3 years now and it's working perfectly well. It took me some time to have it working in the first place but it never failed me since. It's working at least as well as legacy x11 used to. x11 which I eradicated as much as I could, zotero6 is the only app I have, still using legacy xwayland, but I'll switch to zotero7 asap. On another, newer install, I ditched sddm for gdm which allows me to have no xorg server at all. Hope sddm 0.20 will be available soon.

    As for `eval "$(ssh-agent -s)"`, I can see in my bash history I start using it at least from 2022.

    Cheers
    Chris


    Here are some details: https://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/plasma-and-the-systemd-startup/


    To enable it:

    kwriteconfig5 --file startkderc --group General --key systemdBoot true

    Not sure about kick-off issues, I'm using fullscreen Aplication
    Dashboard, and it works fine.

    Haha, no systemd running here.

    But good tip that is could be related to the way Plasma is starting up.

    If you have some problems with Wayland session - better report bugs,
    so they wouldn't get lost. I've reported a bunch in the past, and
    they were fixed.

    Sure. Just currently not much time for that, so much other stuff.

    Best,


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