Hi,

I am running KDE on an X260. Since the latest updates, after suspending
the machine, network-manager doesn't connect the network again and the
taskbar applet says "no connections found". Logging out of the Plasma
session and logging in again fixes the issue until next suspend.

Is anybody else seeing this behavior and has already debugged?

Greetings
Marc

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Hi,

On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 01:46:52PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

I am running KDE on an X260. Since the latest updates, after suspending
the machine, network-manager doesn't connect the network again and the taskbar applet says "no connections found". Logging out of the Plasma
session and logging in again fixes the issue until next suspend.

Am I really the only one?

Greetings
Marc

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Am 17.08.23 um 20:37 schrieb Marc Haber:

Hi,

On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 01:46:52PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

I am running KDE on an X260. Since the latest updates, after suspending
the machine, network-manager doesn't connect the network again and the
taskbar applet says "no connections found". Logging out of the Plasma
session and logging in again fixes the issue until next suspend.

Am I really the only one?

Greetings
Marc

Hi,

for me it indeed happen to from time to time. mostly when the machine
suspended itself due to low battery.

than it helps to manually switch on the network again:

nmcli networking on


Marc

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El lunes, 14 de agosto de 2023 08:46:52 -03 Marc Haber escribió:

Hi,

I am running KDE on an X260. Since the latest updates, after suspending
the machine, network-manager doesn't connect the network again and the taskbar applet says "no connections found". Logging out of the Plasma
session and logging in again fixes the issue until next suspend.

Is anybody else seeing this behavior and has already debugged?

Mmm, that might bemy issue on my laptop... Does not happens on my desktop. I'll try to reproduce.

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On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 11:43:23AM +0200, Marc wrote:

than it helps to manually switch on the network again:

nmcli networking on

No, that doesnt help on my system. nmcli networking off makes the nm
applet show "lo disabled", but nmcli networking on doesn't bring the
contents back to the connection list.

Greetings
Marc

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Am Montag, 14. August 2023, 13:46:52 CEST schrieb Marc Haber:

I am running KDE on an X260. Since the latest updates, after suspending
the machine, network-manager doesn't connect the network again and the taskbar applet says "no connections found". Logging out of the Plasma
session and logging in again fixes the issue until next suspend.

Is anybody else seeing this behavior and has already debugged?

No, but the audio applet exposes funny behaviour here, too (audio sinks are displayed multiple times after resume or if I reconnect the dock, at least sometimes).

Restarting plasmashell only (killall plasmashell; plasmashell&) fixes at least that issue until next suspend/resume cycle (for me).

Regards,
Dietz
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On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 04:01:15PM +0200, Dietz Proepper wrote:

Am Montag, 14. August 2023, 13:46:52 CEST schrieb Marc Haber:

I am running KDE on an X260. Since the latest updates, after suspending
the machine, network-manager doesn't connect the network again and the taskbar applet says "no connections found". Logging out of the Plasma session and logging in again fixes the issue until next suspend.

Is anybody else seeing this behavior and has already debugged?

No, but the audio applet exposes funny behaviour here, too (audio sinks are displayed multiple times after resume or if I reconnect the dock, at least sometimes).

Restarting plasmashell only (killall plasmashell; plasmashell&) fixes at least
that issue until next suspend/resume cycle (for me).

Restarting plasmashell doesn't help here. The nm applet seems to
reconnect and shows the available connections, but clicking on one
immediately yields a toast "Connection (name) deactivated" without even
trying to conect. I didn't know that behavior before.

Logout/Login => network fine.

Greetings
Marc

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Am Sonntag, 20. August 2023, 10:44:19 CEST schrieb Marc Haber:

On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 04:01:15PM +0200, Dietz Proepper wrote:

No, but the audio applet exposes funny behaviour here, too (audio sinks
are
displayed multiple times after resume or if I reconnect the dock, at least sometimes).

Restarting plasmashell only (killall plasmashell; plasmashell&) fixes at least that issue until next suspend/resume cycle (for me).

Restarting plasmashell doesn't help here.

Ok, then that smells not like a kde problem to me.

The nm applet seems to
reconnect and shows the available connections, but clicking on one immediately yields a toast "Connection (name) deactivated" without even trying to conect. I didn't know that behavior before.

Anything interesting in /var/log/syslog? The other thing I'd try first is to play a little with nmctl so you can narrow down who might be the culprit.

What kind of network btw? WLAN? Mobile?

Regards,
Dietz
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On 20/08/2023 10:58, Dietz Proepper wrote:

Am Sonntag, 20. August 2023, 10:44:19 CEST schrieb Marc Haber:

The nm applet seems to
reconnect and shows the available connections, but clicking on one
immediately yields a toast "Connection (name) deactivated" without even
trying to conect. I didn't know that behavior before.

Anything interesting in /var/log/syslog? The other thing I'd try first is to play a little with nmctl so you can narrow down who might be the culprit.

Or 'journalctl -f' whilst attempting...things.


alexd

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Hi All:

Not really sure if helps, but just in case: Could you check whether kded5 process is alive when you experience the problem?

HTH,

El 20 de agosto de 2023 13:39:15 CEST, Alex DEKKER <bugs@ale.cx> escribió:

On 20/08/2023 10:58, Dietz Proepper wrote:

Am Sonntag, 20. August 2023, 10:44:19 CEST schrieb Marc Haber:

The nm applet seems to
reconnect and shows the available connections, but clicking on one
immediately yields a toast "Connection (name) deactivated" without even
trying to conect. I didn't know that behavior before.

Anything interesting in /var/log/syslog? The other thing I'd try first is to >> play a little with nmctl so you can narrow down who might be the culprit.

Or 'journalctl -f' whilst attempting...things.

alexd

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<html><head></head><body><div dir="auto">Hi All:<br><br>Not really sure if helps, but just in case: Could you check whether kded5 process is alive when you experience the problem?<br><br>HTH,</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto">El 20 de
agosto de 2023 13:39:15 CEST, Alex DEKKER &lt;bugs@ale.cx&gt; escribió:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail"><div dir="auto">On 20/08/2023 10:58, Dietz Proepper wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="auto">Am Sonntag, 20. August 2023, 10:
44:19 CEST schrieb Marc Haber:<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="auto">The nm applet seems to<br>reconnect and shows the available connections, but
clicking on one<br>immediately yields a toast "Connection (name) deactivated" without even<br>trying to conect. I didn't know that behavior before.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">Anything interesting in /var/log/syslog? The other thing I'd try
first is to<br>play a little with nmctl so you can narrow down who might be the culprit.<br><br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br>Or 'journalctl -f' whilst attempting...things.<br><br><br>alexd<br><br><br></div></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>
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El domingo, 20 de agosto de 2023 05:44:19 -03 Marc Haber escribió:

On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 04:01:15PM +0200, Dietz Proepper wrote:

Am Montag, 14. August 2023, 13:46:52 CEST schrieb Marc Haber:

I am running KDE on an X260. Since the latest updates, after suspending the machine, network-manager doesn't connect the network again and the taskbar applet says "no connections found". Logging out of the Plasma session and logging in again fixes the issue until next suspend.

Is anybody else seeing this behavior and has already debugged?

No, but the audio applet exposes funny behaviour here, too (audio sinks are
displayed multiple times after resume or if I reconnect the dock, at least sometimes).

Restarting plasmashell only (killall plasmashell; plasmashell&) fixes at least
that issue until next suspend/resume cycle (for me).

Restarting plasmashell doesn't help here. The nm applet seems to
reconnect and shows the available connections, but clicking on one immediately yields a toast "Connection (name) deactivated" without even trying to conect. I didn't know that behavior before.

I have a similar issue... but in my case the connections are established but no packet goes out or in.

Logout/Login => network fine.

Same here, but seems that I have less issues with WiFi rather than ethernet...

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On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 11:58:48AM +0200, Dietz Proepper wrote:

Am Sonntag, 20. August 2023, 10:44:19 CEST schrieb Marc Haber:

Restarting plasmashell doesn't help here.

Ok, then that smells not like a kde problem to me.

It does to me. At least on a WPA Perosnalnetwork, I can connect using
nmtui alright. This smells to me like the nm applet not talking
properly to NetworkManager (which got updated on 09 Aug 2023, current
version being 1.44.0-1). Will try a downgrade tomorrow.

The nm applet seems to
reconnect and shows the available connections, but clicking on one immediately yields a toast "Connection (name) deactivated" without even trying to conect. I didn't know that behavior before.

Anything interesting in /var/log/syslog?

System wakes up from suspend, first logs some blurb that was still in
memory from before the suspend, then logs the wakeup. NetworkManager
restarts, does some housekeeping and finally tries to bring up
lanw0, which is the Wifi interface in question:

2023-08-21T18:49:31.974702+02:00 drop wpa_supplicant[1567]: lanw0: CTRL-EVENT-REGDOM-CHANGE init=DRIVER type=COUNTRY alpha2=DE
2023-08-21T18:49:32.017119+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <info> [1692636572.0166] policy: auto-activating connection 'Zugschlus_Netgear' (919eeee7-7cfb-4d27-abcb-65ea81d39d8b)
2023-08-21T18:49:32.017435+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <info> [1692636572.0172] device (lanw0): Activation: starting connection 'Zugschlus_Netgear' (919eeee7-7cfb-4d27-abcb-65ea81d39d8b)
2023-08-21T18:49:32.017648+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <info> [1692636572.0174] device (lanw0): state change: disconnected -> prepare (reason 'none', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
2023-08-21T18:49:32.018157+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <info> [1692636572.0180] manager: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTING
2023-08-21T18:49:32.044987+02:00 drop systemd-networkd[932]: lanw0: Link DOWN 2023-08-21T18:49:32.045231+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <info> [1692636572.0447] device (lanw0): set-hw-addr: set-cloned MAC address to BE:A4:6B:EA:FD:DB (stable)
2023-08-21T18:49:32.050770+02:00 drop systemd-networkd[932]: lanw0: Link UP 2023-08-21T18:49:32.051017+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <info> [1692636572.0506] device (lanw0): state change: prepare -> config (reason 'none', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
2023-08-21T18:49:32.051348+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <info> [1692636572.0512] device (lanw0): Activation: (wifi) access point 'Zugschlus_Netgear' has security, but secrets are required.
2023-08-21T18:49:32.051575+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <info> [1692636572.0512] device (lanw0): state change: config -> need-auth (reason 'none', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
2023-08-21T18:49:32.051952+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <info> [1692636572.0518] device (lanw0): supplicant interface state: disconnected -> interface_disabled
2023-08-21T18:49:32.052151+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <info> [1692636572.0518] device (p2p-dev-lanw0): supplicant management interface state: disconnected -> interface_disabled
2023-08-21T18:49:32.052387+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <warn> [1692636572.0520] device (lanw0): no secrets: No agents were available for this request.
2023-08-21T18:49:32.052641+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <info> [1692636572.0520] device (lanw0): state change: need-auth -> failed (reason 'no-secrets', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
2023-08-21T18:49:32.052856+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <info> [1692636572.0523] manager: NetworkManager state is now DISCONNECTED
2023-08-21T18:49:32.053097+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <warn> [1692636572.0525] device (lanw0): Activation: failed for connection 'Zugschlus_Netgear'
2023-08-21T18:49:32.053338+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <info> [1692636572.0528] device (lanw0): state change: failed -> disconnected (reason 'none', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
2023-08-21T18:49:32.096681+02:00 drop systemd-networkd[932]: lanw0: Link DOWN 2023-08-21T18:49:32.096854+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <info> [1692636572.0966] device (lanw0): set-hw-addr: set MAC address to 36:66:CB:C1:B0:3C (scanning)
2023-08-21T18:49:32.102787+02:00 drop systemd-networkd[932]: lanw0: Link UP 2023-08-21T18:49:32.106278+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <info> [1692636572.1061] policy: auto-activating connection 'Zugschlus_Netgear_5G' (b7c947c6-db17-404b-9282-b1aa499084cc)
2023-08-21T18:49:32.106910+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <info> [1692636572.1067] device (lanw0): Activation: starting connection 'Zugschlus_Netgear_5G' (b7c947c6-db17-404b-9282-b1aa499084cc)
2023-08-21T18:49:32.107132+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <info> [1692636572.1069] device (lanw0): state change: disconnected -> prepare (reason 'none', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
2023-08-21T18:49:32.108023+02:00 drop NetworkManager[266999]: <info> [1692636572.1073] manager: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTING

Note the "Activation: (wifi) access point 'Zugschlus_Netgear' has
security, but secrets are required." and "no secrets: No agents were
available for this request." In my understanding, the agent in question
would be a KDE component since the secret was entered in the nm applet.
Now, where does nm applet store the secrets?

When I then use nmtui to connect and select the SSID, it asks me for the
secret (every time again, nmtui doesnt seem to store the secret) and
connects. After this, nm applet still displays the "unconnected" icon
and "no available connections", but the system is conected and
communicates just fine.

What kind of network btw? WLAN? Mobile?

Wifi, an Intel Wireless 8260 using WPA Personal (at home WPA Enterprise,
but all experiments were done on the road, eh, rails).

Greetings
Marc

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On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 04:46:09PM +0200, Raúl Sánchez Siles wrote:

Not really sure if helps, but just in case: Could you check whether kded5 process is alive when you experience the problem?

I recorded kded5's pid before suspending and verified after using nmtui
to get back connectivity that the pid isstill the same. It is.

Do you want me to do more checks with kded5?

Greetings
Marc

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Great Marc! I have had issues after kded5 silently died and what you tested ruled this out. It is enough.

I hope you find the root cause soonish.

Regards!

El 21 de agosto de 2023 19:18:55 CEST, Marc Haber <mh+debian-kde@zugschlus.de> escribió:

On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 04:46:09PM +0200, Raúl Sánchez Siles wrote:

Not really sure if helps, but just in case: Could you check whether kded5 process is alive when you experience the problem?

I recorded kded5's pid before suspending and verified after using nmtui
to get back connectivity that the pid isstill the same. It is.

Do you want me to do more checks with kded5?

Greetings
Marc

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<html><head></head><body><div dir="auto">Great Marc! I have had issues after kded5 silently died and what you tested ruled this out. It is enough.<br><br>I hope you find the root cause soonish.<br><br>Regards!</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div
dir="auto">El 21 de agosto de 2023 19:18:55 CEST, Marc Haber &lt;mh+debian-kde@zugschlus.de&gt; escribió:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail"><div dir="auto">On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 04:46:09PM +0200, Raúl Sánchez Siles wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="auto">Not
really sure if helps, but just in case: Could you check whether kded5 process is alive when you experience the problem?<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br>I recorded kded5's pid before suspending and verified after using nmtui<br>to get back
connectivity that the pid isstill the same. It is.<br><br>Do you want me to do more checks with kded5?<br><br>Greetings<br>Marc<br><br></div></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>
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Am Montag, 21. August 2023, 19:16:36 CEST schrieb Marc Haber:

On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 11:58:48AM +0200, Dietz Proepper wrote:

Am Sonntag, 20. August 2023, 10:44:19 CEST schrieb Marc Haber:

Restarting plasmashell doesn't help here.

Ok, then that smells not like a kde problem to me.

It does to me. At least on a WPA Perosnalnetwork, I can connect using
nmtui alright. This smells to me like the nm applet not talking
properly to NetworkManager (which got updated on 09 Aug 2023, current
version being 1.44.0-1). Will try a downgrade tomorrow.

Ack.

[Logfile]

Note the "Activation: (wifi) access point 'Zugschlus_Netgear' has
security, but secrets are required." and "no secrets: No agents were available for this request." In my understanding, the agent in question
would be a KDE component since the secret was entered in the nm applet.

That makes sense.

Now, where does nm applet store the secrets?

KDEWallet iirc.
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Hi,

On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 01:46:52PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

I am running KDE on an X260. Since the latest updates, after suspending
the machine, network-manager doesn't connect the network again and the taskbar applet says "no connections found". Logging out of the Plasma
session and logging in again fixes the issue until next suspend.

Is anybody else seeing this behavior and has already debugged?

The problem is still present on my system. Downgrading network-manager
to 1.42 makes the tray icon work again. nmtui does always work.

What is the correct name of the tray icon and the network connection
widget, and in which package is it?

What else could I do?

Greetings
Marc

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On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 01:46:52PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

I am running KDE on an X260. Since the latest updates, after suspending
the machine, network-manager doesn't connect the network again and the taskbar applet says "no connections found". Logging out of the Plasma
session and logging in again fixes the issue until next suspend.

Is anybody else seeing this behavior and has already debugged?

I still have the issue. All my notebooks are affected. Downgrading network-manager to 1.42.8-1 fixes the issue.

Greetings
Marc

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