Greetings,
* Russ Allbery (
rra@debian.org) wrote:
Cord Beermann <cord@debian.org> writes:
As listmaster i can confirm that it is a big problem to deliver Mails to gmail/outlook/yahoo. Yahoo Subscribers are mostly gone by now because
they bounced a lot, for gmail it is so much that we just ignore bounces because of those rules.
Yes, I gave up for the mailing lists I run and just rewrite the From
address to be the address of the list and move the actual sender to
Reply-To, and I see other technical mailing lists like the glibc lists
have started doing this as well (using the built-in Mailman feature, which can optionally do this only if the sender domain has SPF/DMARC records).
The answer that we (PostgreSQL folks, at least) went with was to stop
breaking DKIM because that's just a bad approach to take these days with mailing lists. If you're curious about what PostgreSQL and now SPI are
using for our lists, it's called pgLister and is here:
https://gitlab.com/pglister/pglister
Others have hacked up mailman to make it stop breaking DKIM too (though
it's pretty grotty how they did it, I'll admit).
Yes, yes, I know that means a bunch of mailman features aren't
available. We've managed to survive even without them.
Thanks,
Stephen
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