Hey,
would you consider adding an official Debian account to LiberaPay ? You
just have to enter a banking account on strip to allow direct donation
with basically no need to supervise/give back ; no additional fees and
it gives a simple way to collect money for Debian, and a easy way for
people to give back.

It'd be an easy way for people supporting Debian to do so casually and
gloat about how they are good people giving for their prefered distro.

I know I would.

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On Tue Apr 16, 2024 at 5:26 PM -03, wrote:

Hey,
would you consider adding an official Debian account to LiberaPay ? You
just have to enter a banking account on strip to allow direct donation
with basically no need to supervise/give back ; no additional fees and
it gives a simple way to collect money for Debian, and a easy way for
people to give back.

Debian has no legal entity, instead uses SPI[0] to receive donations.

Since there's no legal entity, Debian can't add a bank account on Stripe
to receive these payments.

[0]: https://www.spi-inc.org/

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On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 at 5:26 PM, otyugh@riseup.net <otyugh@riseup.net> wrote:

Hey,
would you consider adding an official Debian account to LiberaPay ? You
just have to enter a banking account on strip to allow direct donation
with basically no need to supervise/give back ; no additional fees and
it gives a simple way to collect money for Debian, and a easy way for
people to give back.

It'd be an easy way for people supporting Debian to do so casually and
gloat about how they are good people giving for their prefered distro.

I know I would.

Hi otyugh

The Debian Project appreciate very much donations! We are glad you consider to do so. :)

As Rivas said, the legal and fiscal organization which supports the project is the Software in the Public Interest Inc. (SPI), which is a non-profit 501(c)(3) based in the USA.

To know more about how to donate to Debian, please visit https://www.debian.org/donations.

To know more about SPI, please visit https://www.spi-inc.org/.

I would recommend that you forward your inquire regarding LiberaPay to SPI. They might be able to add it as an option for receiving donations.

Once again, thank you for your interest in supporting Debian!

Cheers

Felipe Maia

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On 2024-04-17 03:13:56 +0000 (+0000), Felipe Maia wrote:
[...]

I would recommend that you forward your inquire regarding
LiberaPay to SPI. They might be able to add it as an option for
receiving donations.

[...]

The most expedient route is probably to send the request to treasurer@spi-inc.org with as many details as seem relevant. This
will autocreate an RT ticket in SPI's treasurer queue so we don't
lose track of it.

I brought this topic up in the #spi IRC channel yesterday after I
saw the initial request here on debian-project, and the good news is
this seems like it ought to be reasonably straightforward. Battle
for Wesnoth (another SPI associated project) already has a LiberaPay
account, donations to which are collected by SPI on their behalf, so
something similar could in theory be set up for Debian.

One of the directors who assists with treasurer duties tried to look
into details of their service offerings, but was unable to load the
LiberaPay site at all. It seems they probably block access from
various parts of the World, which is sadly not all that uncommon.
Due to the global nature of the Debian/SPI communities contrasted
with the decidedly non-global behavior of many payment and donation
sites, these sorts of requests are often more challenging to resolve
than they should be, so patience is recommended.
--
Jeremy Stanley, SPI Board of Directors

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On Wednesday, 17 April 2024 at 10:16 AM, Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> wrote:

The most expedient route is probably to send the request to treasurer@spi-inc.org with as many details as seem relevant. This
will autocreate an RT ticket in SPI's treasurer queue so we don't
lose track of it.

I brought this topic up in the #spi IRC channel yesterday after I
saw the initial request here on debian-project, and the good news is
this seems like it ought to be reasonably straightforward. Battle
for Wesnoth (another SPI associated project) already has a LiberaPay
account, donations to which are collected by SPI on their behalf, so something similar could in theory be set up for Debian.

One of the directors who assists with treasurer duties tried to look
into details of their service offerings, but was unable to load the
LiberaPay site at all. It seems they probably block access from
various parts of the World, which is sadly not all that uncommon.
Due to the global nature of the Debian/SPI communities contrasted
with the decidedly non-global behavior of many payment and donation
sites, these sorts of requests are often more challenging to resolve
than they should be, so patience is recommended.
--
Jeremy Stanley, SPI Board of Directors

Hi Jeremy

Thanks for taking this request directly to SPI.

By coincidence, I was listening to a FOSS podcast just yesterday talking exactly about the dificulteis of projects and individual developers to receive donations, since it involves fiscal and legal issues. Indeed, receiving and giving donations across
different countries can be quite a challenge.

At the same time, I listen oftenly that if projects asked more for donations and made the process of donating as simple and straightforward as possible, they would receive more.

Perhaps, that's something we could improve.

Cheers

Felipe

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