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    From Peter Pentchev@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 20 10:10:01 2018
    On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 11:31:18PM +0200, Clément Hermann wrote:
    On 19/04/2018 22:45, Holger Levsen wrote:
    I now wondered if it's not only en_GB.utf8 which is "different", but also the NZ and US variants sort like that (and so differently than C)... not sure if en_FR.utf8 exist, but using it, it sorts differently / like C ;)

    (probably because it doesnt exist, thus the default, C, is used.)

    Indeed, it doesn't exist. At least , for fr_* locale, it seems to be consistent both in the different charsets available (e.g. fr_FR and fr_FR.UTF-8) and country (fr_BE, fr_CA, fr_CH, fr_FR and fr_LU).

    Actually I thought the localization had been made consistently with the apparition of unicode locales...

    Oh, I do so love the (possibly unintended) phrase "the apparition of
    unicode locales"!

    G'luck,
    Peter

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  • From Thomas Harding@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 20 14:00:02 2018
    Le 20 avril 2018 09:58:46 GMT+02:00, Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net> a écrit :
    On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 11:31:18PM +0200, Clément Hermann wrote:
    On 19/04/2018 22:45, Holger Levsen wrote:
    I now wondered if it's not only en_GB.utf8 which is "different",
    but also
    the NZ and US variants sort like that (and so differently than
    C)... not
    sure if en_FR.utf8 exist, but using it, it sorts differently / like
    C ;)

    (probably because it doesnt exist, thus the default, C, is used.)

    Indeed, it doesn't exist. At least , for fr_* locale, it seems to be
    consistent both in the different charsets available (e.g. fr_FR and
    fr_FR.UTF-8) and country (fr_BE, fr_CA, fr_CH, fr_FR and fr_LU).

    Actually I thought the localization had been made consistently with
    the
    apparition of unicode locales...

    Oh, I do so love the (possibly unintended) phrase "the apparition of
    unicode locales"!

    So, after a so long service to the human being crew, that's time to introduce c_C and c_C.utf8 locale which would both compile^Wcomply with C(omputer's languages, habits and traditions).

    Then, maybe, English spokers would understand they all speak a local English, and that their computer has it's own

    (even iso639-2 and later 3 languages letters codification doesen't express any language variant --- or as exceptions. I was surprised as I formatted a csv version of iso639-2 around ?2000,2003? / trying to setup a Koha database for personal use /
    moreover the person at Library of Congress who was in charge never heard anything about computer parsing).


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