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    From Daniel =?utf-8?Q?Gr=C3=B6ber?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 3 11:50:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release

    Hi Jakub,
    Hi d-release,

    On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 01:10:47PM +0100, Jakub Ružička wrote:
    and uploaded bird3_3.0.0-1 to Debian experimental,
    it's now waiting in NEW queue:

    https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/bird3_3.0.0-1.html

    bird3 has passed NEW and is now in experimental.

    The preliminary plan is to test (in experimental) until BIRD 3.1.0
    release sometimes in January 2025 and if things are looking good,
    include that for Debian 13 Trixie (and hopefully Ubuntu 25.04).

    Jan has passed, do you still intend to have bird3 in trixie? I'd like to
    have it :-).

    Keep the freeze policy in mind. My understanding is that starting
    2025-04-15 (Soft freeze) no new source packages will be allowed to migrate
    to testing:

    https://release.debian.org/testing/freeze_policy.html#transition

    No new packages and no re-entry to testing

    Packages that are not in testing will not be allowed to migrate to
    testing. This applies to new packages as well as to packages that were removed from testing (either manually or by auto-removals). Packages that
    are not in trixie at the start of the soft freeze will not be in the
    release.

    d-release: It's not clear to me if we can get an exception for bird3 here?

    I would assume we can't, upload 3.0.2 to unstable *now* and let it migrate
    then we at least have a head start on the longer migration times come Soft Freeze :-)

    --Daniel

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  • From Daniel =?utf-8?Q?Gr=C3=B6ber?=@21:1/5 to Paul Gevers on Thu Apr 3 12:40:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release

    Hi Paul,

    On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 12:16:36PM +0200, Paul Gevers wrote:
    On 03-04-2025 11:41, Daniel Gröber wrote:
    d-release: It's not clear to me if we can get an exception for bird3 here?


    I'm not seeing a reason for an exception here. Maybe I missed it? But as you said, there's still time before you even need one.

    I'm just not very familiar with the nitty-gritty of our release process yet
    and not sure where the boundaries for sensible exceptions are.

    So I guess the question was: say we plan on being done by date X-Y which is after/during soft freeze. Is there any flexibility on the "no new src pkgs"
    or is it a hard rule and we should scramble to get it in even if we're not feeling 100% confident in it's bug-freeness right now.

    Thanks,
    --Daniel

    PW: If the original mail didn't make sense that's because half my brain interpreted Jakub's planned release date to lie within the soft freeze. I
    fixed the misunderstanding but the resulting question lingered. Sorry for
    the haflbrained confusion :-).

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  • From Jakub =?utf-8?B?UnXFvmnEjWth?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 3 23:30:01 2025
    Hello Daniel and BIRD fans o/

    On 25-04-03 11:04, Daniel Gröber wrote:

    Hi Jakub,
    Hi d-release,

    On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 01:10:47PM +0100, Jakub Ružička wrote:
    and uploaded bird3_3.0.0-1 to Debian experimental,
    it's now waiting in NEW queue:

    https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/bird3_3.0.0-1.html

    bird3 has passed NEW and is now in experimental.

    Yay \o/

    The preliminary plan is to test (in experimental) until BIRD 3.1.0
    release sometimes in January 2025 and if things are looking good,
    include that for Debian 13 Trixie (and hopefully Ubuntu 25.04).

    Jan has passed, do you still intend to have bird3 in trixie? I'd like to
    have it :-).

    Yes! In fact, BIRD team was hard at work to release improved 3.1.0 which
    I plan to upload to unstable soon after 2.17 - I hope both make it to
    trixie.

    Keep the freeze policy in mind. My understanding is that starting
    2025-04-15 (Soft freeze) no new source packages will be allowed to migrate
    to testing:

    Yeah, assuming all goes well, I'll upload tomorrow (04-04) and bird3 has autopkgtests so it has decent chance of passing to testing before the
    Soft Freeze.


    https://release.debian.org/testing/freeze_policy.html#transition

    No new packages and no re-entry to testing

    Packages that are not in testing will not be allowed to migrate to
    testing. This applies to new packages as well as to packages that were removed from testing (either manually or by auto-removals). Packages that are not in trixie at the start of the soft freeze will not be in the release.

    d-release: It's not clear to me if we can get an exception for bird3 here?

    Exception shouldn't be needed if there are no unexpected issues. Fingers crossed for bird3_3.1.0-1 :)


    Cheers,
    Jakub

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