• Bug#1104645: ITN: display-dhammapada

    From Andreas Tille@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 3 19:30:01 2025
    Source: display-dhammapada
    Version: 1.0-0.1
    Severity: important
    X-Debbugs-Cc: Jakub Nadolny <jakub.nadolny@ite.pl>, bodhi zazen <bodhi.zazen@fedoraproject.org>, 806340@bugs.debian.org, Package Salvaging Team <team+salvage@tracker.debian.org>

    Hi,

    This is an attempt to introduce a new procedure, which I propose to call
    Intend To NMU. While we have an established process for making minimal, fine-grained changes to a package, it does not cover broader
    improvements such as migrating to Salsa, updating the Standards-Version,
    or adjusting the debhelper compatibility level. However, some packages
    could benefit from more extensive changes, and this procedure aims to
    provide a structured way to implement them. Unlike the well-established
    Package Salvage procedure[1] which requires an active Uploader, the goal
    here is to allow collaborative work on a package on Salsa, even if no
    active uploader expresses interest in maintaining it.

    If you do not agree to large-scale changes to your package, including maintaining it on Salsa, you are welcome to close this bug or tag it as 'wont-fix' to inform others. There is no obligation to continue reading
    if your stance is clear, and your decision will, of course, be
    respected.

    Otherwise, I will follow the well-established timing of the ITS
    procedure, waiting 21 days before performing a Non-Maintainer Upload
    (NMU) to delayed=10. However, due to the freeze the first upload
    will be delayed until Trixi is released.

    This procedure has not yet reached consensus-I am simply exploring
    whether it could be accepted. It remains open for discussion,
    particularly at DebConf25. Please keep in mind that the goal of this
    process is to assist in keeping your package up to date. If you have suggestions for improving it, your feedback is most welcome.


    I'm interested in NMUing your package display-dhammapada. It meets the following criteria for the ITN procedure

    - NMUs
    - Bug filed against the package do not have answers from the
    maintainer.
    - Upstream has released several versions, but despite there being
    a bug entry asking for it, it has not been packaged.
    - There are QA issues with the package.
    - Not on Salsa but it could profit from team maintenance
    - Not uploaded by you in the last 5 years
    - Standards-Version < 4

    I have set up a repository within Debian/[2]. This team functions
    similarly to the former collab-maint on Alioth, allowing any Debian
    Developer to make team uploads. I understand that some maintainers may
    prefer not to transition to collaborative maintenance, and I want to
    emphasize that this is not intended as a hostile action. My goal is to
    make the transition to using a Git repository on Salsa smoother and more convenient for you.

    Your package was highlighted in the Bug of the Day[3] initiative, which
    aims to introduce newcomers to manageable tasks and guide them through
    the workflow to solve them. The focus of this initiative is on migrating packages to Salsa, as it's a great way to familiarize newcomers with a consistent Git-based workflow.

    Kind regards
    Andreas.

    [1] https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#package-salvaging
    [2] https://salsa.debian.org/debian/display-dhammapada
    [3] https://salsa.debian.org/qa/tiny_qa_tools/-/wikis/Tiny-QA-tasks


    -- System Information:
    Debian Release: trixie/sid
    APT prefers unstable
    APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (50, 'buildd-unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
    Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

    Kernel: Linux 6.3.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
    Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
    Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
    Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
    LSM: AppArmor: enabled

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  • From Andreas Tille@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 5 18:20:01 2025
    Control: retitle -1 Intend to orphan package
    Thanks

    Hi,

    I've learned that the "Intend to NMU" procedure is misleading. That's
    why I'd like to turn this bug into a "Intend to Orphan" bug since it
    seems quite clear that this package is not actively maintained. As
    previously stated I have moved the packaging to Salsa[1]. I'm aware
    that orphaning can be only done by the maintainer - but what if

    1. the maintainer has done the last upload more than 13 years ago
    2. does not respond to some email after 31 (when this bug was opened)

    I'd like to stress that the most prefered action would be that either of
    you (Jakub or Bodhi) insist in keep on maintaining the package and I'd
    happily support you with sponsoring if needed. I also will not upload
    the package before Trixie is released to respect the freeze policy which
    leaves you some more time to respond.

    Kind regards
    Andreas.

    [1] https://salsa.debian.org/debian/display-dhammapada

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