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  • Bug#1106631: can we have Homepage: in debian/control as a multivalue

    From Marc Haber@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 27 10:50:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.policy

    Package: debian-policy
    Version: 4.7.2.0
    Severity: wishlist

    Hi,

    I am wondering whether we should either allow multiple Homepage fields
    in debian/control or have this as a multivalue, allowing mor than one
    homepage to be listed.

    I have a package that is on github and has a homepage, with the server
    having the homepage being kind of broken so that it doesn't deliver the
    page for all clients. The github page doesn't refer to the real
    homepage.

    I am therefore tempted to ignore the "real" homepage and set the
    Homepage field to the github page here.

    Are there tools in Debian other than the Tracker that make use of the
    Homepage field? The Tracker could generate one link per value, probably
    a three-line change.

    Am I talking to the right package to suggest this change?

    Greetings
    Marc

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  • From Andrey Rakhmatullin@21:1/5 to Marc Haber on Tue May 27 12:40:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.policy

    On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 10:42:42AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
    I am wondering whether we should either allow multiple Homepage fields
    in debian/control or have this as a multivalue, allowing mor than one >homepage to be listed.

    I have a package that is on github and has a homepage, with the server
    having the homepage being kind of broken so that it doesn't deliver the
    page for all clients. The github page doesn't refer to the real
    homepage.

    I am therefore tempted to ignore the "real" homepage and set the
    Homepage field to the github page here.

    I need to note that this is usually the correct way, because it's often
    hard (sometimes impossible) to get the upstream source from the "real" homepage, especially when one wants a VCS and not tarballs. It's safe to assume, on the other hand, that a VCS has a prominent link to a "real" homepage if that exists and is useful.

    OTOH we have additional metadata, e.g. debian/upstream/metadata, and it's possible that it would be enough for you, but I don't think e.g. tracker
    shows it.

    --
    WBR, wRAR

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  • From Marc Haber@21:1/5 to Andrey Rakhmatullin on Tue May 27 13:30:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.policy

    On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 03:16:57PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote:
    On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 10:42:42AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
    I am wondering whether we should either allow multiple Homepage fields
    in debian/control or have this as a multivalue, allowing mor than one >>homepage to be listed.

    I have a package that is on github and has a homepage, with the server >>having the homepage being kind of broken so that it doesn't deliver the >>page for all clients. The github page doesn't refer to the real
    homepage.

    I am therefore tempted to ignore the "real" homepage and set the
    Homepage field to the github page here.

    I need to note that this is usually the correct way, because it's
    often hard (sometimes impossible) to get the upstream source from the
    "real" homepage, especially when one wants a VCS and not tarballs.
    It's safe to assume, on the other hand, that a VCS has a prominent
    link to a "real" homepage if that exists and is useful.

    We have debian/watch to look for upstream source.

    OTOH we have additional metadata, e.g. debian/upstream/metadata, and
    it's possible that it would be enough for you, but I don't think e.g.
    tracker shows it.

    Do we have that documented beyond DEP-12?

    Greetings
    Marc

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  • From Sean Whitton@21:1/5 to Marc Haber on Tue May 27 14:00:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.policy

    Hello,

    On Tue 27 May 2025 at 10:42am +02, Marc Haber wrote:

    Am I talking to the right package to suggest this change?

    We can certainly discuss it here but generally Policy would change only
    after parsers were updated for something like this.

    --
    Sean Whitton

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  • From Bill Allombert@21:1/5 to Marc Haber on Tue May 27 14:30:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.policy

    On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 10:42:42AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
    Package: debian-policy
    Version: 4.7.2.0
    Severity: wishlist

    Hi,

    I am wondering whether we should either allow multiple Homepage fields
    in debian/control or have this as a multivalue, allowing mor than one homepage to be listed.

    I have a package that is on github and has a homepage, with the server
    having the homepage being kind of broken so that it doesn't deliver the
    page for all clients. The github page doesn't refer to the real
    homepage.

    I am therefore tempted to ignore the "real" homepage and set the
    Homepage field to the github page here.

    This is probably for the best. What is upstream saying about this ?

    I am afraid having two Homepage: without further semantic would be
    confusing for little benefit.

    Homepage[kindabroken]: https://www
    Homepage[github]: https://github

    Cheers,
    --
    Bill. <ballombe@debian.org>

    Imagine a large red swirl here.

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  • From Marc Haber@21:1/5 to Andrey Rakhmatullin on Wed May 28 15:00:02 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.policy

    On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 03:16:57PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote:
    OTOH we have additional metadata, e.g. debian/upstream/metadata, and
    it's possible that it would be enough for you, but I don't think e.g.
    tracker shows it.

    DEP-12 doesn't allow a Homepage field.

    Greetings
    Marc


    -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany | lose things." Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421

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