On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 at 01:32, Ansgar 🙀 <ansgar@debian.org> wrote:

Hi,

Debian 10 "buster" has moved to archive.debian.org in order to free
space on the main mirror network. We plan to start removing files for non-LTS architectures in about two weeks; the existing Release files
will then refer to no longer existing files on the main mirror network.

An exception is the security archive (which already has no non-LTS architectures): we will only archive it after LTS support ended.

Would it be feasible to mirror the security section to
archive.debian.org as well?

As of today for example if one uses Buster on armhf one needs to have
the repos pointing to archive.debian.org but security still pointing
to deb.debian.org, which is confusing. It would be simpler for systems
that still have Buster could switch to archive.debian.org in one go
and not have to do it twice (once for main, and later for security).



Err:3 http://archive.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates Release
404 Not Found [IP: 151.101.194.132 80]

Err:4 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/main armel Packages
404 Not Found [IP: 151.101.162.132 80]

Err:5 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates/main armel Packages
404 Not Found [IP: 151.101.162.132 80]

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Hi!

So just to clarify, are you saying that a copy of https://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/buster/ will never
be archived at https://archive.debian.org/debian-security/dists/ like
previous releases have been so far?

This is not about getting *new security updates*, but purely a
question of how moving Buster to archival works and how e.g. CI
systems that test upgrades from Buster should work.

I see that e.g.
https://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/buster/main/binary-armel and https://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/buster-updates/main/binary-armel
no longer exists, but have been archived at https://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/buster/main/binary-armel/ and https://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/buster-updates/main/binary-armel/.

The https://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/buster/updates/main/binary-armel
is now gone, is the intent for it to show up on archive.debian.org in
some form?

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Hello Ansgar,

Am Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 09:30:49AM +0100 schrieb Ansgar 🙀:

Debian 10 "buster" has moved to archive.debian.org in order to free
space on the main mirror network. We plan to start removing files for non-LTS architectures in about two weeks; the existing Release files
will then refer to no longer existing files on the main mirror network.

An exception is the security archive (which already has no non-LTS architectures): we will only archive it after LTS support ended.

For LTS users this does not require any changes.

I'd like to understand the process a little better:

1. First *non*-LTS architectures (mips,ppc,s390,…) have been moved 2024-03
2. LTS for Buster ended recently 2024-06-30 ¹
3. Debian 13 Trixie release is expected in 2025
4. ELTS for Buster is probably until 2029-06 ²

When will *LTS* architectures (x86,arm,…) also be removed?

My guess would be between 2. and either when more free space is needed
anytime in the future, or latest 3.

Thank you for your excellent work and hopefully an answer.
Philipp

1: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS
2: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Extended

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