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  • Proposed mass bug filing: packages without support for build-arch and b

    From Lucas Nussbaum@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 5 21:30:01 2021
    Hi,

    I'd like to propose a MBF with severity:serious for the above issue.
    build-arch and build-indep are required targets according to Debian
    Policy section 4.9. This rule was introduced in Policy version 3.9.4,
    released in 2012. https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#main-building-script-debian-rules

    There are 421 affected packages in unstable (389 in testing as of
    2021-10-01).
    The list of affected packages according to lintian is https://lintian.debian.org/tags/debian-rules-missing-recommended-target
    A dd-list is included below.

    Unfortunately this is only a warning in lintian, which might explain
    why so many packages are still affected.

    I have no strong feelings about this requirement, but I see it as a good opportunity to identify packages whose packaging probably need a
    refresh. Therefore it is a good target, especially at the beginning of a release cycle, to either update old cruft or get it removed from the
    next stable release.

    This topic was raised back in April on debian-qa@, and saw no
    objection back then. See https://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2021/04/msg00014.html (the thread
    included other topics).

    The bug template I plan to use is included below.

    I would prefer to file bugs directly with severity:serious, but I'm fine
    with starting with severity:important and bumping severity after a month
    or two if the release team prefers it, of course.

    - Lucas


    ============== bug template ============

    Subject: x: missing required debian/rules targets build-arch and/or build-indep

    Source: x
    Version: x
    Severity: serious
    Justification: Debian Policy section 4.9
    User: debian-qa@lists.debian.org
    Usertags: missing-build-arch-indep

    Dear maintainer,

    Your package does not include build-arch and build-indep targets in debian/rules. This is required by Debian Policy section 4.9, since 2012. https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#main-building-script-debian-rules

    Please note that this is also a sign that the packaging of this software
    could benefit from a refresh. For example, packages using 'dh' cannot be affected by this issue.

    This mass bug filing was discussed on debian-devel@ in [url]

    Best,

    =============== dd-list ===============

    "Steinar H. Gunderson" <sesse@debian.org>
    amoeba-data

    A Mennucc1 <mennucc1@debian.org>
    libppd
    printfilters-ppd

    Adam Majer <adamm@zombino.com>
    lpr
    sc

    Adam Sloboda <ja@disorder.sk>
    gkrellm-thinkbat
    gkrellm-xkb

    Adi Zaimi <adizaimi@users.sourceforge.net>
    gkrelltop

    Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org>
    gkrellmoon

    Alan Baghumian <alan@technotux.org>
    myspell-fa (U)
    myspell-hy

    Alberto Capella Silva <alberkman@gmail.com>
    squidtaild

    Alessandro De Zorzi <lota@nonlontano.it>
    phamm (U)

    Alex Pennace <alex@pennace.org>
    dircproxy
    pentium-builder

    Alexander Gordeev <lasaine@lvk.cs.msu.su>
    madwimax

    Alexander Wirt <formorer@debian.org>
    libmail-verify-perl
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    mp3burn

    Alexandre Ratchov <alex@caoua.org>
    midish

    alice ferrazzi (aliceinwire) <aliceinwire@gnumerica.org>
    abr2gbr

    Amaya Rodrigo Sastre <amaya@debian.org>
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    Andrew McMillan <debian@mcmillan.net.nz>
    whereami

    Angel Ramos <seamus@debian.org>
    hunt

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    Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org>
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    ink-generator

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    libsendmail-pmilter-perl

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    gnuit

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    hugs98

    ISHIKAWA Mutsumi <ishikawa@debian.org>
    konfont

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    Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <jfs@computer.org>
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  • From Emilio Pozuelo Monfort@21:1/5 to Lucas Nussbaum on Sat Nov 6 11:40:01 2021
    Hi Lucas,

    On 05/11/2021 21:22, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
    Hi,

    I'd like to propose a MBF with severity:serious for the above issue. build-arch and build-indep are required targets according to Debian
    Policy section 4.9. This rule was introduced in Policy version 3.9.4, released in 2012. https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#main-building-script-debian-rules

    There are 421 affected packages in unstable (389 in testing as of 2021-10-01).
    The list of affected packages according to lintian is https://lintian.debian.org/tags/debian-rules-missing-recommended-target
    A dd-list is included below.

    Thanks for looking at this.

    Unfortunately this is only a warning in lintian, which might explain
    why so many packages are still affected.

    lintian should move those targets to the debian-rules-missing-required-target tag.

    I have no strong feelings about this requirement, but I see it as a good opportunity to identify packages whose packaging probably need a
    refresh. Therefore it is a good target, especially at the beginning of a release cycle, to either update old cruft or get it removed from the
    next stable release.

    This topic was raised back in April on debian-qa@, and saw no
    objection back then. See https://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2021/04/msg00014.html (the thread
    included other topics).

    The bug template I plan to use is included below.

    I would prefer to file bugs directly with severity:serious, but I'm fine
    with starting with severity:important and bumping severity after a month
    or two if the release team prefers it, of course.

    I think severity serious is fine if you use an appropriate Version so that this won't block testing migration. I would still prefer if this was filed at important severity, and raised to serious after a month or so.

    Cheers,
    Emilio

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  • From Holger Levsen@21:1/5 to Emilio Pozuelo Monfort on Sat Nov 6 12:00:02 2021
    On Sat, Nov 06, 2021 at 11:31:25AM +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
    I think severity serious is fine if you use an appropriate Version so that this won't block testing migration. I would still prefer if this was filed
    at important severity, and raised to serious after a month or so.

    given (too) many maintainers (sometimes) react very emotionally to serious
    bugs filed against "their" packages and given we're early in the release cycle and given this effects some hundred packages I think it would be better to
    file these bugs with severity "important" and then raise the severity a
    month later (and announce this in each filed bug from the start.)

    This will achieve the same effect from an archive perspective and is hardly
    any different (after 8 years in policy) nor any more work.


    --
    cheers,
    Holger

    ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
    ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org
    ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ OpenPGP: B8BF54137B09D35CF026FE9D 091AB856069AAA1C
    ⠈⠳⣄

    The apocalypse is here now, it’s just not equally distributed.

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  • From Lucas Nussbaum@21:1/5 to Lucas Nussbaum on Wed Nov 10 08:10:01 2021
    Hi,

    On 05/11/21 at 21:22 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
    Hi,

    I'd like to propose a MBF with severity:serious for the above issue. build-arch and build-indep are required targets according to Debian
    Policy section 4.9. This rule was introduced in Policy version 3.9.4, released in 2012. https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#main-building-script-debian-rules

    There are 421 affected packages in unstable (389 in testing as of 2021-10-01).
    The list of affected packages according to lintian is https://lintian.debian.org/tags/debian-rules-missing-recommended-target
    A dd-list is included below.

    Unfortunately this is only a warning in lintian, which might explain
    why so many packages are still affected.

    I have no strong feelings about this requirement, but I see it as a good opportunity to identify packages whose packaging probably need a
    refresh. Therefore it is a good target, especially at the beginning of a release cycle, to either update old cruft or get it removed from the
    next stable release.

    This topic was raised back in April on debian-qa@, and saw no
    objection back then. See https://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2021/04/msg00014.html (the thread
    included other topics).

    The bug template I plan to use is included below.

    I would prefer to file bugs directly with severity:serious, but I'm fine
    with starting with severity:important and bumping severity after a month
    or two if the release team prefers it, of course.

    - Lucas

    Bugs have been filed: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=missing-build-arch-indep;users=debian-qa@lists.debian.org

    https://udd.debian.org/bugs/?release=na&merged=ign&fnewerval=7&flastmodval=7&fusertag=only&fusertagtag=missing-build-arch-indep&fusertaguser=debian-qa%40lists.debian.org&allbugs=1&cpopcon=1&cseverity=1&ckeypackage=1&ctags=1&caffected=1&clastupload=1&
    sortby=id&sorto=asc&format=html#results

    - Lucas

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  • From Felix Lechner@21:1/5 to lucas@debian.org on Thu Jan 13 22:40:02 2022
    Hi,

    On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:23 PM Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> wrote:

    Unfortunately this is only a warning in lintian, which might explain
    why so many packages are still affected.

    After a reasonably broad and balanced discussion on
    Libera#debian-devel, those targets are now required. [1]

    The Archive team still runs an older Lintian version (and may for a
    while) so there should be plenty of time for uploads without
    auto-rejection.

    in that case let's wait

    At the time of writing, 264 sources were still affected [2] which was
    down from 421 in November. It worked out more or less to the monthly
    decline of 85 sources originally predicted by N. Thykier in 2013. [3]

    Lintian's tag description was amended with the simplest possible fix,
    which has two-lines. [4] They are reasonable addition to sources that
    do not receive a lot of attention.

    file these bugs with severity "important" and then raise the severity a month later

    The bugs were already serious, and therefore release-critical, when I
    found them.

    Thank you, everyone, for making the best operating system the world
    has ever seen. Let's keep it together!

    Kind regards
    Felix Lechner

    [1] https://salsa.debian.org/lintian/lintian/-/commit/23f836f91c03b78df76743fc002a105403a5bc14
    [2] Scroll down, https://lintian.debian.org/tags/debian-rules-missing-recommended-target
    [3] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=657390#45
    [4] https://lintian.debian.org/tags/debian-rules-missing-required-target

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