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  • Re: spurious autoremovals due to python3-nose

    From Chris Hofstaedtler@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 27 11:00:01 2024
    * Alexandre Detiste <alexandre.detiste@gmail.com> [240927 10:07]:
    "nose" is RC buggy. It was until a few days ago in the "key packages set".
    [..]
    What was not expected is that nose started the autoremoval counter of seemingly ~700 unrelated packages.

    How this does work :-| ?

    I imagine exactly like you are seeing it play out. Now every
    maintainer has 29 days to do something about the situation - either
    cut nose out of their deps, or fix or delay the rc bug.

    Don't know what the mechanism is for informing to-be-autoremoved
    package maintainers, but it's good that the machinery is working.

    An interesting research topic is probably what is the non-key key
    package depending on nose, and can that be fixed soon. A good
    starting point might be "pkg-perl-tools", which is affected but
    seems unlikely to directly depend on nose...

    Chris

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  • From Andrey Rakhmatullin@21:1/5 to Chris Hofstaedtler on Fri Sep 27 11:20:01 2024
    On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 10:58:02AM +0200, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:
    An interesting research topic is probably what is the non-key key
    package depending on nose, and can that be fixed soon. A good
    starting point might be "pkg-perl-tools", which is affected but
    seems unlikely to directly depend on nose...

    pkg-perl-tools Depends: git-buildpackage
    git-buildpackage Build-Depends: python3-nose (#1018367)

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    WBR, wRAR

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  • From Andrey Rakhmatullin@21:1/5 to Alexandre Detiste on Fri Sep 27 11:20:01 2024
    On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 10:07:07AM +0200, Alexandre Detiste wrote:
    Hi,

    "nose" is RC buggy. It was until a few days ago in the "key packages set".

    After recent upload of piuparts, nose dropped out of the key package set,
    as expected.

    What was not expected is that nose started the autoremoval counter of seemingly ~700 unrelated packages.

    https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/autoremovals.cgi

    How this does work :-| ?

    Why not? Things (build-)depend on other things and that can be a big tree.

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  • From Jonathan Kamens@21:1/5 to Alexandre Detiste on Fri Sep 27 12:50:01 2024
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    Can you clarify why you are describing these autoremoves as "spurious"? Isn't this just the dependency system working the way it is supposed to?

    jik

    On September 27, 2024 4:07:07 AM EDT, Alexandre Detiste <alexandre.detiste@gmail.com> wrote:
    Hi,

    "nose" is RC buggy. It was until a few days ago in the "key packages set".

    After recent upload of piuparts, nose dropped out of the key package set,
    as expected.

    What was not expected is that nose started the autoremoval counter of >seemingly ~700 unrelated packages.

    https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/autoremovals.cgi

    How this does work :-| ?

    Greetings,

    Alexandre

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    <html><head></head><body><div dir="auto">Can you clarify why you are describing these autoremoves as "spurious"? Isn't this just the dependency system working the way it is supposed to?<br><br>jik</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto">On
    September 27, 2024 4:07:07 AM EDT, Alexandre Detiste &lt;alexandre.detiste@gmail.com&gt; wrote:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
    <div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Hi,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">"nose" is RC buggy. It was until a few days ago in the "key packages set".</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">After recent upload of piuparts, nose dropped out
    of the key package set, as expected.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="au