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  • Debian/Linux's NPU support?

    From M. Zhou@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 15 04:40:02 2025
    Hi folks,

    It seems that "AI PC" was everywhere in the CES 2025, which basically indicates the presence of the NPU device. Both AMD and Intel have integrated the NPU device
    into their own new CPUs -- in that sense I guess the NPU device will be more popular
    than discrete GPUs in the future, in terms of availability on a random user's computer.

    For instance, Intel's U9 285K has an NPU, based on its official Ark page:
    https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/241060/intel-core-ultra-9-processor-285k-36m-cache-up-to-5-70-ghz/specifications.html
    AMD's AI Max 395 also has an NPU (called AMD Ryzen AI):
    https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/laptop/ryzen/ai-300-series/amd-ryzen-ai-max-plus-395.html

    The NPU devices are still very new to me. I did a little bit of research, and they
    seem to need some new drivers and libraries:
    * Intel: https://github.com/intel/linux-npu-driver
    https://github.com/intel/intel-npu-acceleration-library
    * AMD: https://github.com/amd/xdna-driver
    Since they are still very new hardware, I think we have plenty time to prepare this for
    the trixie+1 release. I just hope they are not as annoying as discrete GPUs from the green
    compoany.

    If anybody is interested in improving Debian's support on such new hardware, I'd suggest
    direct the communications to Debian Deep Learning Team, and work with the team: https://lists.debian.org/debian-ai/
    The team's mailing list is targeted at machine learning and hardware acceleration at the
    very beginning. And NPU was started from AI.

    I'd like to learn if anybody here has experience working with those devices.
    Do they run without non-free blobs? If they work well with just DFSG-compliant packages,
    that would be great.

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