How long will Debian continue to provide a build of openjdk-8? And how long >will Debian continue to apply security patches to openjdk-8?
On Wed, 8 Feb 2023, James Kennard wrote:
How long will Debian continue to provide a build of openjdk-8? And howlong
will Debian continue to apply security patches to openjdk-8?
The ELTS team is going to support openjdk-8 in jessie and stretch
for as long as they get paid for (see the ELTS project’s pages for
more information).
Currently, they’re coordinating with me, I’m uploading new releases
to unstable to take as base for the backported builds as time permits
and sponsored by my employer (see below); however, openjdk-8 in sid
is not officially supported in Debian and has not since 2019-07-06 if
not earlier. For a given release, only default-jdk is supported; that
is 11 for buster and bullseye, and 17 for bookworm; any other JDK that
mey be available is either legacy compat or technology preview and
completely unsupported (modulo individual volunteer effort as usual).
If you need some level of support for openjdk-8, I suggest to contact Freexian (the ELTS coordinator). For uploads to unstable to continue,
you might want to contract my employer so I can continue to do this,
as it takes a couple of person-hours each quarter plus extra love for
e.g. getting the tests to pass better. I also have an APT repository
in which I publish builds of openjdk-8 for wheezy (EOL though), buster, bullseye and even bookworm (those not covered by ELTS), and a PPA at Launchpad in which I do the same for *buntu LTS releases; if you have interest in these I might also be made available via my employer. (The repositories are currently available to the public but unsupported. I
also can only build for x86 at the moment.)
bye,
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</div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 at 20:29, Thorsten Glaser <<a href="mailto:t.glaser@tarent.de">t.glaser@tarent.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Wed, 8 Feb 2023, James Kennard wrote:<br>
Is there a particular reason why you are continuing to update it as opposed >to recommending people switch to an alternative distribution such as
Temurin?
On Fri, 10 Feb 2023, James Kennard wrote:
Is there a particular reason why you are continuing to update it asopposed
to recommending people switch to an alternative distribution such as >Temurin?
I don’t know what Temurin even is.
While I do recommend that people switch to default-jdk, and in fact
we have been needing to use at least 11 in development for a while
because Maven plugins from Central didn’t work with 8 for some time
even when intended to, some customers still run prod on 8, so we
need it for testing. (Or, at least, used to; I’m currently not in
a Java project at work.) I also have been supplying a customer with
openjdk-8 as jessie backport before it was in backports itself, then
ELTS. (The mentioned customer is also no longer in a situation to receive/need these, but this gives historical context.)
I just did not cease updating this.
bye,
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With the changes to Java licensing
, alternative distributions of Java have
become increasingly popular. They all have their pros and cons,
On Mon, 13 Feb 2023, James Kennard wrote:
With the changes to Java licensing
What changes? It’s been GPLv2 + Classpath exception for *ages* now.
, alternative distributions of Java have
become increasingly popular. They all have their pros and cons,
Perhaps, but we’re still talking about the openjdk-8 package here,
which, you know, ships OpenJDK 8…
bye,
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Yes, it has been a long time now, but it's taken time for the alternatives
to gain traction. I was just trying to understand the current state of play >to help work out how and when to move away from openjdk-8.
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