Hello,

I've asked the question to debian-user@lists.debian.org and got the
suggestion to ask here.


I'm using the kotlin package since I wanted to use the kotlinc compiler,
and noticed that it lists following packages as dependencies

* ant
* libmaven-compiler-plugin-java
* libmaven-plugin-tools-java
* libmaven3-core-java


I'm not using ant or maven, so this install (through transitive
dependencies) over 300 MB of unnecessary data:

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Summary:
Upgrading: 0, Installing: 76, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 959
Download size: 69.8 MB
Space needed: 324 MB
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If I force the installation without those packages, I get following summary:

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Summary:
Upgrading: 0, Installing: 3, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 959
Download size: 0 B / 6,380 B
Space needed: 27.6 kB
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Since the kotlin compiler does not depend on
libmaven-compiler-plugin-java libmaven-plugin-tools-java
libmaven3-core-java ant, would it make sense to move those dependencies
to recommended, or remove them altogether?

The complete list of installed transitive dependencies is

ant libcommons-parent-java libjsoup-java
libmaven3-core-java libplexus-utils2-java
libaopalliance-java libcommons-text-java libjsr305-java
libplexus-ant-factory-java libplexus-velocity-java
libapache-pom-java libdoxia-core-java libjtidy-java
libplexus-archiver-java libplexus-xml-java
libasm-java liberror-prone-java
libjuniversalchardet-java libplexus-bsh-factory-java libqdox2-java
libatinject-jsr330-api-java libgeronimo-annotation-1.3-spec-java libmaven-archiver-java libplexus-build-api-java
libsisu-inject-java
libbsh-java libgeronimo-interceptor-3.0-spec-java libmaven-compiler-plugin-java libplexus-cipher-java libsisu-plexus-java
libcdi-api-java libguava-java
libmaven-file-management-java libplexus-classworlds-java libslf4j-java
libcommons-cli-java libguice-java libmaven-jar-plugin-java
libplexus-compiler-java libsnappy-java
libcommons-codec-java libhttpclient-java libmaven-parent-java
libplexus-component-annotations-java libsnappy-jni
libcommons-collections3-java libhttpcore-java
libmaven-plugin-tools-java libplexus-container-default-java libtrove-intellij-java
libcommons-compress-java libjansi-java
libmaven-reporting-api-java libplexus-container-default1.5-java libvavr0-java
libcommons-io-java libjetbrains-annotations-java libmaven-resolver-java libplexus-interpolation-java libwagon-provider-api-java
libcommons-lang-java libjline3-java libmaven-shared-incremental-java libplexus-io-java libxbean-reflect-java
libcommons-lang3-java libjna-java libmaven-shared-io-java
libplexus-languages-java libxz-java
libcommons-logging-java libjna-jni libmaven-shared-utils-java
libplexus-sec-dispatcher-java velocity

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Hi Federico,

Le 2025-05-18 12:00, Federico Kircheis a écrit :

Since the kotlin compiler does not depend on
libmaven-compiler-plugin-java libmaven-plugin-tools-java
libmaven3-core-java ant, would it make sense to move those dependencies
to recommended, or remove them altogether?

Thank you for reporting this. Could you please file a bugreport against
the kotlin source package? This won't be fixed for trixie release due to
the freeze, but it could deserve a stable update. I will also need to double-check in the source code that the dependencies are not required
for some features or libraries that are shipped together with the
compiler.

Cheers,

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Julien Plissonneau Duquène

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On 18/05/2025 1:57 pm, Julien Plissonneau Duquène wrote:

Thank you for reporting this. Could you please file a bugreport against
the kotlin source package? This won't be fixed for trixie release due to
the freeze, but it could deserve a stable update. I will also need to double-check in the source code that the dependencies are not required
for some features or libraries that are shipped together with the compiler.

Cheers,

Reported with bugreport.

Since it is the first time I've used it, I hope the details are all correct.

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Le 2025-05-18 14:19, Federico Kircheis a écrit :

Since it is the first time I've used it, I hope the details are all
correct.

That looks good. Thank you!

Cheers,

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Julien Plissonneau Duquène

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