• Re: Debian 11 missing packages I need what configure should I run?

    From Tobias Frost@21:1/5 to Barry Scott on Fri Dec 30 13:40:01 2022
    On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 12:15:48PM +0000, Barry Scott wrote:
    I have installed debian 11 (bullseye) but find that its missing packages
    that I need for my software.

    For example python3-pyqt6 is a must have. debian 11 only has pyqt5.

    What do you recommend I do to be on a debian which has the newer packages?

    What is the stability expectation of your recommendation?

    What is you want to archive?
    If you want to package something for inclusion in Debian (what this mailling list is about),
    you need to know that packages are generally built for unstable. (unstable has pyqt6.)

    If this is not what you want to archive, please expand…

    Barry



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  • From Barry Scott@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 30 13:20:01 2022
    I have installed debian 11 (bullseye) but find that its missing packages
    that I need for my software.

    For example python3-pyqt6 is a must have. debian 11 only has pyqt5.

    What do you recommend I do to be on a debian which has the newer packages?

    What is the stability expectation of your recommendation?

    Barry

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  • From Soren Stoutner@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 30 06:16:41 2022
    Copy: barry@barrys-emacs.org (Barry Scott)

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    Users new to Debian often misunderstand the various Debian repositories. Let me give you
    a brief description.

    Stable: Debian releases a new Stable version about every two years. It is designed for
    servers where administrators require complete *feature* stability, meaning that they don’t
    want anything to change, they don’t want any new features, they don’t want to have to
    modify any config files to make them compatible with any changes in the software. They
    just want it to run and receive security updates. Very few people would be looking to run
    Debian Stable in a desktop environment.

    Testing: Testing is a rolling release. It updates twice a day from packages that have been
    vetted in Unstable long enough to be considered generally usable. It is what most people
    are looking for if they want to use recent versions of software. Periodically, testing freezes
    and becomes the new Stable release. The next freeze of Testing is scheduled to begin on
    January 12.

    https://release.debian.org/bookworm/freeze_policy.html[1]

    Unstable: Unstable is where new packages are uploaded. They sit there for a cooling-off
    period (the default is 5 days in most situations) and move to Testing if no significant bugs
    are found. Sbuild defaults to building packages using an Unstable environment.

    Experimental: Unlike the other three repositories listed above, Experimental does not
    contain a full set of packages (meaning that you cannot install and run a full system solely
    from experimental). Rather, it is a supplement to Unstable. Packages in Experimental do
    not automatically propagate to other repositories. Developers can upload packages to
    Experimental that they want to make available for wider testing but which they know are in
    an unfinished state.

    The above is just a brief summary. There is much more nuance that can be explored,
    including Backports (a supplementary repository of newer software that can be added on
    to a stable release). The first place you would want to look for more information is:

    https://www.debian.org/releases/[2]

    From a personal perspective, I run all my servers and workstations on Debian Testing. I use
    sbuild to test packaging in a Debian Unstable environment. Other developers and users
    have different preferences.

    On Friday, December 30, 2022 5:15:48 AM MST Barry Scott wrote:
    I have installed debian 11 (bullseye) but find that its missing packages
    that I need for my software.

    For example python3-pyqt6 is a must have. debian 11 only has pyqt5.

    What do you recommend I do to be on a debian which has the newer packages?

    What is the stability expectation of your recommendation?

    Barry


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    <body><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Users new to Debian often misunderstand the various Debian repositories.&nbsp; Let me give you a brief description.</p>
    <br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Stable:&nbsp; Debian releases a new Stable version about every two years.&nbsp; It is designed for servers where administrators require complete *feature* stability, meaning that
    they don’t want anything to change, they don’t want any new features, they don’t want to have to modify any config files to make them compatible with any changes in the software.&nbsp; They just wan