Loren,

Yes, I would say that is generally correct. If you have a package that is team maintained, it is best under the team namespace. If it is not team maintained, it is generally best under the debian namespace (which is the team of all Debian Developers). It makes it easier for others to pick up if something happens to you.

However, there may be specific cases where you do want to keep it in your own namespace. I maintain one package where I am also the upstream developer. I keep the Debian packaging in my own namespace because I want to have a very high threshold for other people making changes to it. At this stage, if something were to happen to me, both the Debian package and the upstream project would need to be adopted by someone else, which would probably necessitate a renaming of the project. Down the road, I would like to get more people involved in both the upstream development and the Debian packaging. When that happens I will probably move the Salsa project to a team namespace.

There is certainly nothing wrong with keeping your project under your own namespace, but if you would like to move it to the debian namespace, grant me full access to it (my Salsa username is soren) and I can then move it to the debian namespace and grant you full access to the project there.

Soren

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 11:34:14 PM MST Loren M. Lang wrote:

On Sat, Mar 02, 2024 at 01:11:46AM +0100, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:

In data venerdì 1 marzo 2024 05:12:51 CET, Soren Stoutner ha scritto:

Generally you should create the repository under the debian namespace

You need to ask a DD to do that. Non DD don't have permissions for this.

So is having all packages (at least those not maintained by a team)
under the debian/ namespace considered a best practice for all but the
most sensitive of packages? Should I actually have my own package
transfered to this namespace?

I just have a small, CLI package that I maintain alone and, since I
don't have DD permissions, just assumed that I should put it under my
own namespace. Is it recommended to just keep it under the neutral
debian namespace just in case I am no longer able to keep it maintained
in the future?

My current package is https://salsa.debian.org/penguin359/tiv

-Loren

--
Soren Stoutner
soren@debian.org
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On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 12:02:36AM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote:

Loren,

Yes, I would say that is generally correct. If you have a package that is team maintained, it is best under the team namespace. If it is not team maintained, it is generally best under the debian namespace (which is the team
of all Debian Developers). It makes it easier for others to pick up if something happens to you.

However, there may be specific cases where you do want to keep it in your own
namespace. I maintain one package where I am also the upstream developer. I
keep the Debian packaging in my own namespace because I want to have a very high threshold for other people making changes to it. At this stage, if something were to happen to me, both the Debian package and the upstream project would need to be adopted by someone else, which would probably necessitate a renaming of the project. Down the road, I would like to get more people involved in both the upstream development and the Debian packaging. When that happens I will probably move the Salsa project to a team
namespace.

There is certainly nothing wrong with keeping your project under your own namespace, but if you would like to move it to the debian namespace, grant me
full access to it (my Salsa username is soren) and I can then move it to the debian namespace and grant you full access to the project there.

Thanks! I've granted you full access to

https://salsa.debian.org/penguin359/tiv

-Loren

Soren

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 11:34:14 PM MST Loren M. Lang wrote:

On Sat, Mar 02, 2024 at 01:11:46AM +0100, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:

In data venerdì 1 marzo 2024 05:12:51 CET, Soren Stoutner ha scritto:

Generally you should create the repository under the debian namespace

You need to ask a DD to do that. Non DD don't have permissions for this.

So is having all packages (at least those not maintained by a team)
under the debian/ namespace considered a best practice for all but the
most sensitive of packages? Should I actually have my own package transfered to this namespace?

I just have a small, CLI package that I maintain alone and, since I
don't have DD permissions, just assumed that I should put it under my
own namespace. Is it recommended to just keep it under the neutral
debian namespace just in case I am no longer able to keep it maintained
in the future?

My current package is https://salsa.debian.org/penguin359/tiv

-Loren

--
Soren Stoutner
soren@debian.org

--
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lorenl@north-winds.org
http://www.north-winds.org/


Public Key: http://www.north-winds.org/lorenl_pubkey.asc
Fingerprint: 7896 E099 9FC7 9F6C E0ED E103 222D F356 A57A 98FA

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Copy: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org

On Sunday, March 3, 2024 12:08:00 PM MST Loren M. Lang wrote:

There is certainly nothing wrong with keeping your project under your own namespace, but if you would like to move it to the debian namespace, grant me
full access to it (my Salsa username is soren) and I can then move it to

the

debian namespace and grant you full access to the project there.

Thanks! I've granted you full access to

https://salsa.debian.org/penguin359/tiv

-Loren

Done.

--
Soren Stoutner
soren@debian.org
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On 01/03/2024 04:12, Soren Stoutner wrote:

I have created a repository named planner under debian and have granted you Developer access. :)

F.Y.I.   'Developer' access on Salsa does not allow to Manage CI/CD
settings.

If required, 'Maintainer' or 'Owner' is needed to do that. https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/permissions.html

BTDTGTTS,
Peter

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Peter,

That’s a good point. When I granted the access I actually selected Maintainer, but for some reason I wrote Developer in the email.

On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 5:44:51 AM MST Peter B wrote:

On 01/03/2024 04:12, Soren Stoutner wrote:

I have created a repository named planner under debian and have granted

you

Developer access. :)

F.Y.I. 'Developer' access on Salsa does not allow to Manage CI/CD
settings.

If required, 'Maintainer' or 'Owner' is needed to do that. https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/permissions.html

BTDTGTTS,
Peter

--
Soren Stoutner
soren@debian.org
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PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM ALL LISTS!

I tried to remove myself. It didn't work.

I tried to contact the list admin. I did not get an answer.

I'M GONNA SPAM YOUR LISTS UNTIL YOU REMOVE ME!



On 05.03.24 21:34, Soren Stoutner wrote:

Peter,

That’s a good point. When I granted the access I actually selected Maintainer, but for some reason I wrote Developer in the email.

On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 5:44:51 AM MST Peter B wrote:

On 01/03/2024 04:12, Soren Stoutner wrote:

I have created a repository named planner under debian and have granted

you

Developer access. :)

F.Y.I. 'Developer' access on Salsa does not allow to Manage CI/CD
settings.

If required, 'Maintainer' or 'Owner' is needed to do that.
https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/permissions.html

BTDTGTTS,
Peter

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