Dear Sébastien,

Are you still interested in maintaining this package? It's been a
couple of years since you've worked on the team repository, so some of
the team are wondering. Please let us know at your earliest
convenience.

Regards,
Nicholas

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On Mon, Mar 25 2024, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:

Are you still interested in maintaining this package? It's been a
couple of years since you've worked on the team repository, so some of
the team are wondering. Please let us know at your earliest
convenience.

Hi Nicholas,

I unfortunately do not have the available spare time required to
properly take care of org-mode and org-mode-doc: my last update was
circa 2020 IIRC, and the team's taken care of all the uploads in the
past 3 years so I wasn't aware my lack of involvement was raising
questions or issues. Is there anything I can do to make things
easier/clearer for you? I just noticed I'm still listed in the Uploaders
field, is that maybe the issue? I'd be happy to remove that.

Cheers,

--
Seb

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Sébastien Delafond <seb@debian.org> writes:

I unfortunately do not have the available spare time required to
properly take care of org-mode and org-mode-doc: my last update was
circa 2020 IIRC, and the team's taken care of all the uploads in the
past 3 years so I wasn't aware my lack of involvement was raising
questions or issues. Is there anything I can do to make things
easier/clearer for you? I just noticed I'm still listed in the Uploaders field, is that maybe the issue? I'd be happy to remove that.

Hello Sébastien,

Thank you for such a quick reply, and I hope that your circumstances are inspiring-busy rather than stressful-busy! Our team had trouble
tracking under-maintained packages the last release cycle, org-mode fell through the cracks, and the recent CVEs reminded me to finally check-in
with you about the package. Sorry if this came across as pushy and all
at once.

Yes, thank you, please update Uploaders for org-mode and org-mode docs
if you're not reviewing the package, and don't worry because at least
two of us are willing to take responsibility for it :)

Debian Emacsen also has a couple of new members, so if you'd like to
divest yourself of any other packages now would be a great time to email
the team with a list of them.

Best,
Nicholas

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On Tue, Mar 26 2024, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:

Sorry if this came across as pushy and all at once.

Not at all.

Yes, thank you, please update Uploaders for org-mode and org-mode docs
if you're not reviewing the package

Done.

Debian Emacsen also has a couple of new members, so if you'd like to
divest yourself of any other packages now would be a great time to
email the team with a list of them.

I believe org-mode and org-mode-doc were the only 2 packages I ever got involved in as far as elisp goes.

Cheers,

--
Seb

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Hello,

On Tue 26 Mar 2024 at 12:11pm -04, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:

Sébastien Delafond <seb@debian.org> writes:

I unfortunately do not have the available spare time required to
properly take care of org-mode and org-mode-doc: my last update was
circa 2020 IIRC, and the team's taken care of all the uploads in the
past 3 years so I wasn't aware my lack of involvement was raising
questions or issues. Is there anything I can do to make things
easier/clearer for you? I just noticed I'm still listed in the Uploaders
field, is that maybe the issue? I'd be happy to remove that.

Hello Sébastien,

Thank you for such a quick reply, and I hope that your circumstances are inspiring-busy rather than stressful-busy! Our team had trouble
tracking under-maintained packages the last release cycle, org-mode fell through the cracks, and the recent CVEs reminded me to finally check-in
with you about the package. Sorry if this came across as pushy and all
at once.

Yes, thank you, please update Uploaders for org-mode and org-mode docs
if you're not reviewing the package, and don't worry because at least
two of us are willing to take responsibility for it :)

Hmm, this situation is not valid -- there must be a human in the
Maintainer field if there is no Uploaders field, as required by the MIA
team. We now can't upload the package without someone adding their name
or us moving it to the QA team.

--
Sean Whitton

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Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> writes:

Hello,

On Tue 26 Mar 2024 at 12:11pm -04, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:

Yes, thank you, please update Uploaders for org-mode and org-mode docs
if you're not reviewing the package, and don't worry because at least
two of us are willing to take responsibility for it :)

Hmm, this situation is not valid -- there must be a human in the
Maintainer field if there is no Uploaders field, as required by the MIA
team. We now can't upload the package without someone adding their name
or us moving it to the QA team.

Yup, and openness to a transfer of responsibility is what this thread is
about. If you're genuinely bothered by the hours-long gap state, please
let me know how much (PM is fine if preferred). Would you please
clarify if your reply was a mere statement of fact, or if you intended
or hoped it would affect someone's behaviour? Ie: Did you mean "in the
future please coordinate the handover of responsibility in a more formal
way, it…"?

-N

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Hi Sébastien,

Sorry for the delay (different time zones, and schedules, life, etc.)

Sébastien Delafond <seb@debian.org> writes:

On Tue, Mar 26 2024, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:

Sorry if this came across as pushy and all at once.

Not at all.

Yes, thank you, please update Uploaders for org-mode and org-mode docs
if you're not reviewing the package

Done.

Thanks! I've added myself as one of the Uploaders because org-mode is essential software to me (maybe obvious from the changelog).

Debian Emacsen also has a couple of new members, so if you'd like to
divest yourself of any other packages now would be a great time to
email the team with a list of them.

I believe org-mode and org-mode-doc were the only 2 packages I ever got involved in as far as elisp goes.

Wonderful, so there's nothing more to worry about. Bookworm's org-mode
is an empty dependency package. We have an upstream org-mode contact
who has been helping out on the BTS, so hopefully the only mail you'll
see is a bit of noise from work on old bugs.

I wish you the best with your other pursuits,
Nicholas

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Hello,

On Wed 27 Mar 2024 at 02:48pm -04, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:

Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> writes:

Hello,

On Tue 26 Mar 2024 at 12:11pm -04, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:

Yes, thank you, please update Uploaders for org-mode and org-mode docs
if you're not reviewing the package, and don't worry because at least
two of us are willing to take responsibility for it :)

Hmm, this situation is not valid -- there must be a human in the
Maintainer field if there is no Uploaders field, as required by the MIA
team. We now can't upload the package without someone adding their name
or us moving it to the QA team.

Yup, and openness to a transfer of responsibility is what this thread is about. If you're genuinely bothered by the hours-long gap state, please
let me know how much (PM is fine if preferred). Would you please
clarify if your reply was a mere statement of fact, or if you intended
or hoped it would affect someone's behaviour? Ie: Did you mean "in the future please coordinate the handover of responsibility in a more formal
way, it…"?

I don't think we should render an package unuploadable by removing
someone's name in this way.

--
Sean Whitton

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Hello,

On Wed 27 Mar 2024 at 05:27pm -04, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:

Thanks! I've added myself as one of the Uploaders because org-mode is essential software to me (maybe obvious from the changelog).

Ah, many thanks for this.

--
Sean Whitton

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