Dear Brothers and Sisters:
I am interested in starting some debian projects. As a homosexual, debian-using, black, I am surprised at the low numbers of black and/or LGBT members of the debian community. I believe that starting debian-niggers, and debian-gay or debian-lgbt projects would help to increase participation of the respective parties in the debian community.
On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 06:47:10PM +0000, jmax wrote:
Dear Brothers and Sisters:
I'm not your brother or sister [...]
No, starting any Debian linked group (i.e. using Debian any form) based on personal differentiation is totally unacceptable. To do so is to encourage division between a world wide, extremely diverse group of users of our computer operating system, forracial, ethnic, age, sexual, or or any other attribute. The internet is neutral, although it is used for all sorts of divisive and offensive uses, and we can keep it so in the Debian world of ours if we wish.
In all my years (decades now) use of Debian I have communicated all over the world with Debian users, and have not cared or needed to know anything more than that I was dealing with another Debian enthusiast.would applaud good play, even when it was not to their own teams advantage.
Perhaps it would be interesting to hear the original poster's views on whether proposals to form a "debian-gay-beaters", "debian-hetrosexuals" or a "debian-white-supremacists" group would meet with his/her/it's approval.
I am against all attempts to promote division between people, either collectively or individually, even down to deploring the antagonism (from mild to violent) between supporters of different sports teams. If they were really sports enthusiasts they
To start, or accept, special interests groups attached to the name "Debian" in any form is to be resisted by all means possible.
On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 at 16:12, Zenaan Harkness <[zenaan@gmail.com](mailto:zenaan@gmail.com)> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 6:02 PM Paul M Foster <[paulf@quillandmouse.com](mailto:paulf@quillandmouse.com)> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 06:47:10PM +0000, jmax wrote:
Dear Brothers and Sisters:
I am interested in starting some debian projects. As a homosexual, debian-using, black, I am surprised at the low numbers of black and/or LGBT
members of the debian community. I believe that starting debian-niggers, and
debian-gay or debian-lgbt projects would help to increase participation of
the respective parties in the debian community.
I'm not your brother or sister, and not part of your demographic, and I
really don't care whether you do or don't start a SIG on black or LGBT
Debian interests.
However, the word "nigger" is plainly offensive. It's been offensive for
decades, and most recently, whites have been entirely prohibited from
using the word, upon pain of death, while blacks readily use it with
impunity.
If you're going to start a SIG for black/LGBT Debianistas, I'd politely
request you do so without resorting to inflammatory language. I imagine the
term "debian-blacks" would serve just as well without aggravating an already
strongly divided world.
Yeah I'd probably be ok with debian-blacks, but someone will probably complain. I think it could be good for the community if it did come true.
In fact, I suspect the less we pay attention to skin color, the better off
we all will be.
Sadly we have no choice on this these days. We probably also have to create debian-yellows now, and while we're at it, debian-rainbow or debian-pride might be more politically correct.
It's difficult to come up with names sometimes, but I'm sure we're up to the job.
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