* On 2024 05 Apr 12:37 -0500, William Torrez Corea wrote:

My colleague uses Windows, another uses Mac OS while I use Debian Gnu/Linux 12.

Choice is good.

The majority of users use Windows while developers and designers use mac os but a little of people use Debian Gnu/Linux 12. So, what is the goal of having this distribution?.

https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian

I use in Debian Gnu/Linux the following tools:

1. gdb
2. gcc
3. valgrind
4. git
5. vim
6. postgresql

You're using tools provided by Debian to get your work done or to do
things you want to do that work well for you. Is that the case for your colleagues?

Understand that some people will only use one computing platform no
matter the benefits of another. Others will try everything and still
others will seek the absolute best platform to achieve their goals no
matter what it is. You and your colleagues may well each be in one of
those categories.

Most of the time the platform is dictated by the application(s) a user
wants to run. Sometimes the platform is dictated by ego.

- Nate

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On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 13:38:50 -0700
"James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> wrote:

Which is why I still have DOS boxes (running IBM PC-DOS 2000,
with DOSShell, and no WinDoze whatsoever….

You might look into freedos.

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On 4/5/24 12:12 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
. . .

Most of the time the platform is dictated by the application(s) a
user wants to run. . . .

Indeed. Which is why I still have DOS boxes (running IBM PC-DOS 2000,
with DOSShell, and no WinDoze whatsoever: Xerox Ventura Publisher
(DOS/GEM Edition) is *still* my typesetting software of choice, and I
still use WordPerfect 5.1+ and Quattro Pro SE.

And as to Ventura and WordPerfect, well, Corel can go to . . . (rhymes
with Corel), for turning perfectly good DOS apps into bad, bloated,
WinDoze apps.

--
JHHL

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Desktop Linux is widely used in physics and mathematics. NASA uses
Linux extensively, including on Mars and on the ISS. SpaceX uses Linux
on their rockets and spacecraft. Over 90% of the top 1 million Web
servers run Linux, including Yahoo, X, and Ebay. Almost all
supercomputers use Linux. Linux has a large and growing share of the
automotive market. Your router almost certainly runs Linux.
--
John Hasler
john@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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On 4/5/24 11:35 AM, John Hasler wrote:

Desktop Linux is widely used in physics and mathematics. NASA uses
Linux extensively, including on Mars and on the ISS. SpaceX uses Linux
on their rockets and spacecraft. Over 90% of the top 1 million Web
servers run Linux, including Yahoo, X, and Ebay. Almost all
supercomputers use Linux. Linux has a large and growing share of the automotive market. Your router almost certainly runs Linux.

Not to mention people like me, who refuse to use WinDoze, in order to
avoid paying "The Bill" (hasn't Gates gotten rich enough already,
selling ill-behaved bloatware and deliberately driving competitors out
of business?), and who have become increasingly disgusted with Apple's
"we know what you want better than you do" attitude, and with the fact
that their upgrade treadmill is getting to be almost as bad as
Microsloth's (I'd use a stronger dysphemism, involving a very rude
Yiddish word, but this is presumably a family list-server).

And of course, every Chromebook in the world has a variant of Linux at
its core (just as every Mac that runs a Mac OS later than 9 uses a
variant of BSD), and a *good* Chromebook will run Linux apps.

--
JHHL

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William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> writes:

[...]

The majority of users use Windows while developers and designers use
mac os but a little of people use Debian Gnu/Linux 12. So, what is the
goal of having this distribution?.

Translating from a contemporary italian philosopher, the answer you are
looking for is inside you but it is wrong.

[...]

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Ciao
Leandro

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On 2024-04-05, John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:

Desktop Linux is widely used in physics and mathematics. NASA uses
Linux extensively, including on Mars and on the ISS. SpaceX uses Linux
on their rockets and spacecraft. Over 90% of the top 1 million Web
servers run Linux, including Yahoo, X, and Ebay. Almost all
supercomputers use Linux. Linux has a large and growing share of the automotive market. Your router almost certainly runs Linux.

Yeah, but Grandma's still using Windows XP.

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On 4/6/24 11:07, Curt wrote:

On 2024-04-05, John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:

Desktop Linux is widely used in physics and mathematics. NASA uses
Linux extensively, including on Mars and on the ISS. SpaceX uses Linux
on their rockets and spacecraft. Over 90% of the top 1 million Web
servers run Linux, including Yahoo, X, and Ebay. Almost all
supercomputers use Linux. Linux has a large and growing share of the
automotive market. Your router almost certainly runs Linux.

Yeah, but Grandma's still using Windows XP

.
And she will never experience its only major bug, the timer rollover at 46.something days. She will never leave it running that long. That was
the most stable windows ever published. That was the only reason we
ever rebooted the machine that literally ran the WDTV news dept back in
its day despite the reporters best efforts to crash it. I'd calculate
when it had to be rebooted & stick a postit note on it. And kept a copy
in my office to remind me when it was time to go reboot it.

.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis

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On 2024-04-06, gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:

On 4/6/24 11:07, Curt wrote:

On 2024-04-05, John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:

Desktop Linux is widely used in physics and mathematics. NASA uses
Linux extensively, including on Mars and on the ISS. SpaceX uses Linux
on their rockets and spacecraft. Over 90% of the top 1 million Web
servers run Linux, including Yahoo, X, and Ebay. Almost all
supercomputers use Linux. Linux has a large and growing share of the
automotive market. Your router almost certainly runs Linux.

Yeah, but Grandma's still using Windows XP

.
And she will never experience its only major bug, the timer rollover at 46.something days. She will never leave it running that long. That was
the most stable windows ever published. That was the only reason we
ever rebooted the machine that literally ran the WDTV news dept back in
its day despite the reporters best efforts to crash it. I'd calculate
when it had to be rebooted & stick a postit note on it. And kept a copy
in my office to remind me when it was time to go reboot it.

Well, you'll be reassured to note that she is now defunct. Where the
machine ended up, I am unaware. Her ashes are currently confined in some
buried urn.

Time heals all wounds, n'est-ce pas ?

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.

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On Saturday 06 April 2024 11:05:52 am Curt wrote:

On 2024-04-05, John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:

Desktop Linux is widely used in physics and mathematics. NASA uses
Linux extensively, including on Mars and on the ISS. SpaceX uses Linux
on their rockets and spacecraft. Over 90% of the top 1 million Web
servers run Linux, including Yahoo, X, and Ebay. Almost all
supercomputers use Linux. Linux has a large and growing share of the automotive market. Your router almost certainly runs Linux.

Yeah, but Grandma's still using Windows XP.

Don't believe the stereotypes...

My lady, now 79, was running XP until there was a hard drive crash some few years back. After I dealt with that but before I did the re-install I stuck an Ubuntu CD in the machine and said "Try this" and it was apparently okay enough to go ahead and
install it and run it for several years. The only regret was one game that wouldn't load, but we couldn't get a clean read off of that install medium anyhow. Not all that long ago that machine got replaced by one running linux Mint, which she's still
happily running today. I offered Debian, by putting it on a second drive in that earlier machine and pointing out the boot options, but she never did get that much of a handle on the idea of selecting different desktop environments. Not a big deal,
at least the house is an M$-free zone still, and I know that she's a damn smart lady. :-)

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ablest -- form of life in this section of space,  a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed.  --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
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Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin

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On 4/6/24 16:30, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:

On Saturday 06 April 2024 11:05:52 am Curt wrote:

On 2024-04-05, John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:

Desktop Linux is widely used in physics and mathematics. NASA uses
Linux extensively, including on Mars and on the ISS. SpaceX uses Linux
on their rockets and spacecraft. Over 90% of the top 1 million Web
servers run Linux, including Yahoo, X, and Ebay. Almost all
supercomputers use Linux. Linux has a large and growing share of the
automotive market. Your router almost certainly runs Linux.

Yeah, but Grandma's still using Windows XP.

Don't believe the stereotypes...

My lady, now 79, was running XP until there was a hard drive crash some few years back. After I dealt with that but before I did the re-install I stuck an Ubuntu CD in the machine and said "Try this" and it was apparently okay enough to go ahead and

install it and run it for several years. The only regret was one game that wouldn't load, but we couldn't get a clean read off of that install medium anyhow. Not all that long ago that machine got replaced by one running linux Mint, which she's still
happily running today. I offered Debian, by putting it on a second drive in that earlier machine and pointing out the boot options, but she never did get that much of a handle on the idea of selecting different desktop environments. Not a big deal,
at least the house is an M$-free zone still, and I know that she's a damn smart lady. :-)

We're way off topic Roy, but my now departed music teacher never "got
the fever" was not a bit impressed by the district forcing her to use a
dos box (2.1 I think), two floppy drives to make out grades and report
cards the last 5 years of her 35 year teaching career.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis

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