Today in my environment I can be faced with a CD only for scaring away
birds or as an intricate amulet on teenagers’ backpacks as a reference to the era of their parents, but not for recording images. Let's say, is this
my particular progressive experience, or do people still find the discs to
be as functional as ever?
Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other
versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary
download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this moment
will happen?
Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other
versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary
download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this moment
will happen?
No! Some of us want to keep using DVD and not be pushed away
Most new computers don't have an optical disc drive, customers don't
request it and if they want one, they can buy one and add it.
More and more I see that people usually use USB flash drives everyday
and some large companies (like Microsoft) today provide an image with
a USB stick.
Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other
versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary
download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this
moment will happen?
Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other
versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary
download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this moment
will happen?
AFAIK, all the so-called CD/DVD images work just fine when "burned" on
a USB flash drive. So I think the question is whether it's time to
change the doc to stop suggesting that those images should be burned
onto optical media.
Again, forgive me if I don’t know some of the important details and difficulties of booting modern PCs via UEFI or some other feature more conveniently solved in the CD/DVD format. Then just tell me about it,
I'll read it.
No, no problems booting UEFI from USB stick. I need to do that to get
back to grub every time I boot Windows on my netbook, which isn't very
often.
On 18/6/24 09:00, Stefan Monnier wrote:
Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or otherAFAIK, all the so-called CD/DVD images work just fine when "burned" on
versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary
download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this moment >>> will happen?
a USB flash drive. So I think the question is whether it's time to
change the doc to stop suggesting that those images should be burned
onto optical media.
Stefan
The ISO images will be around for a long time. They are the primary
mechanism of creating virtual machines by attaching virtual drives to a
.iso file and booting.
Am 18.06.2024 um 10:51:38 Uhr schrieb Joe:
No, no problems booting UEFI from USB stick. I need to do that to
get back to grub every time I boot Windows on my netbook, which
isn't very often.
You should be able to change the boot order in the UEFI setup or
inside of Windows.
And some of the BIOSes of old PCs are not able to boot from USB...
1) I use DVD ISO images to create a bootable USB flash drive. Super easy to do. I do not know how to do this with BD images, so if you do, please let me know.
# ls -hal /dev/sd*
# cp CentOS-7-x86_64-Everything-2009.iso /dev/sdf
Good news everyone,I am
Sorry that the question may have already been clarified earlier, but
not a regular member of the user mailing list, so I ask it again.disorder
Every time I download the Debian image, I am faced with a moral
and philosophically go on a historical journey into the past, sothat I can
remember and dive deeply into memory during the times of using CDs.away
Today in my environment I can be faced with a CD only for scaring
birds or as an intricate amulet on teenagers’ backpacks as areference to
the era of their parents, but not for recording images. Let's say,is this
my particular progressive experience, or do people still find thediscs to
be as functional as ever?
More and more I see that people usually use USB flash driveseveryday and
some large companies (like Microsoft) today provide an image with aUSB
stick.
Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or othermoment
versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary
download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this
will happen?
Again, forgive me if I don’t know some of the important detailsand
difficulties of booting modern PCs via UEFI or some other featuremore
conveniently solved in the CD/DVD format. Then just tell me aboutit, I'll
read it.
Thanks.
Hi,
George at Clug wrote:
1) I use DVD ISO images to create a bootable USB flash drive. Super easy to do. I do not know how to do this with BD images, so if you do, please let me
know.
# ls -hal /dev/sd*
# cp CentOS-7-x86_64-Everything-2009.iso /dev/sdf
As far as Debian amd64 ISOs are concerned, all first volumes of a media
set have the boot equipment for booting via BIOS and EFI from optical
medium and USB stick.
So the usual ways of plainly copying the image to the base device of the
USB stick will work: cp, dd, Rufus, xorriso-dd-target, ...
Some of them impose the risk to shoot the own foot. In contrast, one can hardly overwrite the system disk while burning an optical medium.
The biggest available Debian 12.5 amd64 ISO is "DLBD-1" with about 50 GB:
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dlbd/debian-12.5.0-amd64-DLBD-1.jigdo
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dlbd/debian-12.5.0-amd64-DLBD-1.template
It is possible to merge it with DLBD-2 to get an All-in-one ISO.
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
I have never been able to use .jigdo or understand jigdo, sadly I do not
know how to use them. ISOs I understand.
I found this link, but do not understand what it is saying. It suggests "these images may also be written directly to a USB stick" but does not show how to do this.
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-16G/
# cp https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dlbd/debian-12.5.0-amd64-DLBD-1.jigdo
/dev/sdf (but I guess this does not work?)
No! Some of us want to keep using DVD and not be pushed away
Some of us still prefer physical media
JHHL writes:
Some of us still prefer physical media
Do you mean read-only media? All media are physical.
And some of the BIOSes of old PCs are not able to boot from USB...
Indeed, tho I suspect those machines are 20 years old or more (at least,
all my machines that are <20 years old support booting from a USB key
drive, while of the two older machines I have (both 21 years old), one
of them doesn't support booting from a USB key (tho it supposedly can
boot from USB floppy)).
Stefan
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