• Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam! (was: mounting external

    From Felix Miata@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 23 23:00:01 2024
    Stefan Monnier composed on 2024-06-23 12:35 (UTC-0400):
    ...
    FWIW, this reply goes to list because I expect high probability Stefan would not
    see it otherwise. Most mailing list posts flow through to me unimpeded. Not so with Stefan's. AFAICT, every one of his is captured by Earthlink.net's "known spam" folder. The only ways I can see them are via the web archive, and by opening
    webmail, so that I can extract them from "known spam".

    Stefan's isn't the only, but few others from any source become repeats, one of which is every notification of new post added to subscribed thread on forums.opensuse.org.

    Trying to get EL to stop putting subscribed email into "known spam" is futile. The
    mechanism EL provides to avoid such diversions doesn't work with debian mailing list posts.

    :~(
    --
    Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
    based on faith, not based on science.

    Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

    Felix Miata

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  • From Stefan Monnier@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 24 01:10:01 2024
    [ Sent directly to debian-user@lists. ]

    FWIW, this reply goes to list because I expect high probability Stefan would not
    see it otherwise. Most mailing list posts flow through to me unimpeded. Not so
    with Stefan's. AFAICT, every one of his is captured by Earthlink.net's "known spam" folder. The only ways I can see them are via the web archive, and by opening
    webmail, so that I can extract them from "known spam".

    My crystal ball suggests it's because I [read and] send them via Gmane,
    and of course Gmane can't DKIM-sign my messages (and neither can my NNTP client).


    Stefan

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  • From John Hasler@21:1/5 to Felix Miata on Mon Jun 24 04:50:01 2024
    Felix Miata wrote:
    Trying to get EL to stop putting subscribed email into "known spam" is futile. The mechanism EL provides to avoid such diversions doesn't work
    with debian mailing list posts.

    Quit using EL email. Use Pobox. Yes, it costs money. It's worth it.
    --
    John Hasler
    john@sugarbit.com
    Elmwood, WI USA

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  • From CHRIS M@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 24 04:40:01 2024
    On Sunday 23 June 2024 03:54:36 pm Felix Miata wrote:

    Stefan's isn't the only, but few others from any source become repeats, one of which is every notification of new post added to subscribed thread on forums.opensuse.org.

    Trying to get EL to stop putting subscribed email into "known spam" is futile. The mechanism EL provides to avoid such diversions doesn't work
    with debian mailing list posts.

    :~(

    Sounds like its time to turn off Earthlink's Spam filtering and teach
    SeaMonkey Mail, what *IS* spam and what is *NOT* and is HAM / good mail.

    I've got the time / and somewhat patience to sit down at each mail check with TDE KMAIL and teach TDE KMAIL what is GOOD / HAM emails, and what is NOT and
    is SPAM. #YMMV.
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    CHRIS

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  • From Felix Miata@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 24 05:00:01 2024
    CHRIS M composed on 2024-06-23 21:36 (UTC-0500):

    Felix Miata wrote:

    Stefan's isn't the only, but few others from any source become repeats, one >> of which is every notification of new post added to subscribed thread on
    forums.opensuse.org.

    Trying to get EL to stop putting subscribed email into "known spam" is
    futile. The mechanism EL provides to avoid such diversions doesn't work
    with debian mailing list posts.

    :~(

    Sounds like its time to turn off Earthlink's Spam filtering

    I would LOVE to, but cannot find a way to do so. The only option offered is to make it more intrusive. It used to not be a problem, before DMARC, before the Earthlink/Yahoo war to see who could blackhole more non-spam from each other.

    John Hasler composed on 2024-06-23 21:41 (UTC-0500):

    Quit using EL email. Use Pobox. Yes, it costs money. It's worth it.

    I've been with EL 18 years, SeaMonkey longer (originally as Mozilla Suite, before
    Firefox existed). EL is not free, but it doesn't shove IMAP at me. I like my email
    addresses. My people have known them long, understand the word, and don't ask how
    to spell it.
    --
    Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
    based on faith, not based on science.

    Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

    Felix Miata

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