• Large Zone Transfers Failing in Latest Buster Update

    From Brian@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 2 15:20:01 2024
    We just ran the latest updates for Debian Buster on one of our DNS servers running bind9 and one of the slave domains is failing with this message:
    Aug  2 07:05:20 <hostname> named[76759]: transfer of '<domain name>/IN' from <ip address>#53: Transfer status: too many records
    There are about 1,400 records in that domain which has never posed a problem in the past.

    We have tried force transfers, purging journal files and nothing seems to work. We rolled back the update to one performed earlier in the month and now everything is working.
    Anybody have any idea what is going on with this latest update?

    Thanks,
    Brian

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  • From Eduardo M KALINOWSKI@21:1/5 to Brian on Fri Aug 2 15:20:01 2024
    On 02/08/2024 10:10, Brian wrote:
    We just ran the latest updates for Debian Buster on one of our DNS
    servers running bind9 and one of the slave domains is failing with this message:

    Aug  2 07:05:20 <hostname> named[76759]: transfer of '<domain name>/IN'
    from <ip address>#53: Transfer status: too many records

    There are about 1,400 records in that domain which has never posed a
    problem in the past.

    We have tried force transfers, purging journal files and nothing seems
    to work.

    We rolled back the update to one performed earlier in the month and now everything is working.

    Anybody have any idea what is going on with this latest update?

    Maybe related to https://kb.isc.org/docs/rrset-limits-in-zones ?

    See also
    https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2024/msg00145.html
    (even if it does not directly apply to buster).

    --
    O mesmo dever que prende o servo ao soberano prende ao
    marido a mulher.
    -- William Shakespeare

    Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
    eduardo@kalinowski.com.br

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  • From Brian@21:1/5 to Brian on Fri Aug 2 15:30:01 2024


    On Friday, August 2, 2024 at 09:16:10 AM EDT, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> wrote:

    On 02/08/2024 10:10, Brian wrote:
    We just ran the latest updates for Debian Buster on one of our DNS
    servers running bind9 and one of the slave domains is failing with this message:

    Aug  2 07:05:20 <hostname> named[76759]: transfer of '<domain name>/IN' from <ip address>#53: Transfer status: too many records

    There are about 1,400 records in that domain which has never posed a
    problem in the past.

    We have tried force transfers, purging journal files and nothing seems
    to work.

    We rolled back the update to one performed earlier in the month and now everything is working.

    Anybody have any idea what is going on with this latest update?

    Maybe related to https://kb.isc.org/docs/rrset-limits-in-zones ?

    See also
    https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2024/msg00145.html
    (even if it does not directly apply to buster).

    --
        O mesmo dever que prende o servo ao soberano prende ao
        marido a mulher.
            --  William Shakespeare

    Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
    eduardo@kalinowski.com.br


    Thanks, I will check into that over the weekend and report back.


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  • From Roberto =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=2E_S=E1nch@21:1/5 to Eduardo M KALINOWSKI on Fri Aug 2 15:50:01 2024
    On Fri, Aug 02, 2024 at 10:15:38AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
    On 02/08/2024 10:10, Brian wrote:
    We just ran the latest updates for Debian Buster on one of our DNS
    servers running bind9 and one of the slave domains is failing with this message:

    Aug  2 07:05:20 <hostname> named[76759]: transfer of '<domain name>/IN' from <ip address>#53: Transfer status: too many records

    There are about 1,400 records in that domain which has never posed a problem in the past.

    We have tried force transfers, purging journal files and nothing seems
    to work.

    We rolled back the update to one performed earlier in the month and now everything is working.

    Anybody have any idea what is going on with this latest update?

    Maybe related to https://kb.isc.org/docs/rrset-limits-in-zones ?

    See also
    https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2024/msg00145.html (even
    if it does not directly apply to buster).

    That seems unlikely, as the bind9 package in buster have not yet been
    updated to fix the CVEs referenced in that particular DSA.

    Brian, can you provide more details about what specific packages were
    updated and from what version to what version? You can find that
    information in /var/log/dpkg.log*.

    Regards,

    -Roberto

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    Roberto C. Sánchez

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  • From Eduardo M KALINOWSKI@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 2 16:00:01 2024
    On 02/08/2024 10:44, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
    On Fri, Aug 02, 2024 at 10:15:38AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
    Maybe related to https://kb.isc.org/docs/rrset-limits-in-zones ?

    See also
    https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2024/msg00145.html (even >> if it does not directly apply to buster).

    That seems unlikely, as the bind9 package in buster have not yet been
    updated to fix the CVEs referenced in that particular DSA.

    Brian, can you provide more details about what specific packages were
    updated and from what version to what version? You can find that
    information in /var/log/dpkg.log*.

    buster has a new upstream version 9.20.0, which includes the new
    configuration options, and a default limit of 100 for each when they're
    not set (according the the first link).

    --
    All your files have been destroyed (sorry). Paul.

    Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
    eduardo@kalinowski.com.br

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  • From Roberto =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=2E_S=E1nch@21:1/5 to Eduardo M KALINOWSKI on Fri Aug 2 16:40:02 2024
    On Fri, Aug 02, 2024 at 10:55:55AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
    On 02/08/2024 10:44, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
    On Fri, Aug 02, 2024 at 10:15:38AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
    Maybe related to https://kb.isc.org/docs/rrset-limits-in-zones ?

    See also https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2024/msg00145.html (even
    if it does not directly apply to buster).

    That seems unlikely, as the bind9 package in buster have not yet been updated to fix the CVEs referenced in that particular DSA.

    Brian, can you provide more details about what specific packages were updated and from what version to what version? You can find that information in /var/log/dpkg.log*.

    buster has a new upstream version 9.20.0, which includes the new configuration options, and a default limit of 100 for each when they're not set (according the the first link).

    That new upstream version (9.20.0) is in sid/trixie. Buster has this:

    root@build01:/# cat /etc/debian_version
    10.13
    root@build01:/# apt-cache policy bind9
    bind9:
    Installed: (none)
    Candidate: 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u11
    Version table:
    1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u11 500
    500 http://security.debian.org buster/updates/main amd64 Packages
    1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u7 500
    500 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages

    This matches what is listed in the PTS [0].

    [0] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/bind9

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    Roberto C. Sánchez

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  • From Roberto =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=2E_S=E1nch@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Walton on Fri Aug 2 16:40:01 2024
    On Fri, Aug 02, 2024 at 10:16:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
    On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 9:13 AM Brian <kimhick@yahoo.com> wrote:

    We just ran the latest updates for Debian Buster on one of our DNS servers running bind9 and one of the slave domains is failing with this message:

    Aug 2 07:05:20 <hostname> named[76759]: transfer of '<domain name>/IN' from <ip address>#53: Transfer status: too many records

    There are about 1,400 records in that domain which has never posed a problem in the past.

    We have tried force transfers, purging journal files and nothing seems to work.

    We rolled back the update to one performed earlier in the month and now everything is working.

    Anybody have any idea what is going on with this latest update?

    I think this might be "bind9 update 9.16.50 -- too many record" from
    the debian-security mailing list at <https://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2024/07/msg00003.html>.

    Which seems unlikely on a system running buster.

    --
    Roberto C. Sánchez

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  • From Eduardo M KALINOWSKI@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 2 16:50:01 2024
    On 02/08/2024 11:35, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
    That new upstream version (9.20.0) is in sid/trixie. Buster has this:

    You're right, I've been once more confused by the lack of any logical
    sequence between Debian release codenames.

    --
    We are the people our parents warned us about.

    Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
    eduardo@kalinowski.com.br

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  • From Roberto =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=2E_S=E1nch@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Walton on Fri Aug 2 17:00:01 2024
    On Fri, Aug 02, 2024 at 10:45:21AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
    On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 10:37 AM Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> wrote:

    On Fri, Aug 02, 2024 at 10:16:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
    On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 9:13 AM Brian <kimhick@yahoo.com> wrote:

    We just ran the latest updates for Debian Buster on one of our DNS servers running bind9 and one of the slave domains is failing with this message:

    Aug 2 07:05:20 <hostname> named[76759]: transfer of '<domain name>/IN' from <ip address>#53: Transfer status: too many records

    There are about 1,400 records in that domain which has never posed a problem in the past.

    We have tried force transfers, purging journal files and nothing seems to work.

    We rolled back the update to one performed earlier in the month and now everything is working.

    Anybody have any idea what is going on with this latest update?

    I think this might be "bind9 update 9.16.50 -- too many record" from
    the debian-security mailing list at <https://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2024/07/msg00003.html>.

    Which seems unlikely on a system running buster.

    Maybe I am mis-parsing things, but the backporting to older Debian
    versions is discussed, starting with the question, "Would you be
    willing to backport the configuration of 9.20 so that companies using
    larger record number per name can still use bind9 with security
    update?" The first answer appears at <https://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2024/07/msg00004.html>.

    I agree that it is discussed as you say. However, that discussion is
    about backporting the 9.20 configuration changes to bind9 in *bullseye*,
    while the OP in this thread indicated that the problem was is in bind9
    on a system running *buster*. The last bind9 update on buster [0] was
    uploaded on 2024-05-17, and did not involve the 9.20 configuration
    changes. So, the OP should be considering what else has changed that may
    have caused the observed failure.

    Regards,

    -Roberto

    [0] https://tracker.debian.org/news/1530724/accepted-bind9-19115p4dfsg-51deb10u11-source-into-oldoldstable/

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    Roberto C. Sánchez

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