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  • Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

    From Michael =?utf-8?B?S2rDtnJsaW5n?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 21 14:10:02 2024
    On 21 Aug 2024 12:52 +0100, from jrjfreer@gmail.com (James Freer):
    For a live DVD install as i want to check the hardware is okay i tried
    using debian-12.5-i386-DVD-1.iso. This i presume would just spin up
    but it has asked for partitioning etc which suggests it is going to do
    a hard disk install.

    That is likely correct. You want one of the images with the "live" tag
    in the name, which are only available for the amd64 architecture.

    Note that i386 (i586, i686) support is being phased out more and more.
    Debian 12 is quite possibly the last version of Debian with good i386 architecture support, and i386 support is not guaranteed throughout
    its long-term support phase because of maintenance and upstream
    issues. See the recent discussions regarding i386 and 32-bit on this
    very list for more details.

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    Michael Kjörling 🔗 https://michael.kjorling.se “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”

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  • From Thomas Schmitt@21:1/5 to James Freer on Wed Aug 21 14:30:02 2024
    Hi,

    James Freer wrote:
    For a live DVD install as i want to check the hardware is okay i tried using debian-12.5-i386-DVD-1.iso. This i presume would just spin up
    but it has asked for partitioning etc

    Seems odd to ask for partitioning on a liveDVD.

    debian-12.5-i386-DVD-1.iso. is an installation ISO, not a Live one.
    (Debian Live can be used for installing, too. But the installation ones
    are better tested for that purpose.)

    Michael Kjörling already stated that i386 has not much of a future in
    Debian.
    Is your machine really so old that it won't run a 64-bit Debian ?
    In your situation i would just try one from:
    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/


    Beginning with 12.0, there are only amd64 (i.e. 64 bit x86) Live ISOs:
    https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/12.0.0-live/

    In case that your hardware really does not work with amd64, the youngest
    i386 Live ISOs are for Debian 11:
    https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/11.10.0-live/i386/iso-hybrid/


    Have a nice day :)

    Thomas

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  • From Thomas Schmitt@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 21 14:40:01 2024
    Hi,

    i wrote:
    Is your machine really so old that it won't run a 64-bit Debian ?
    In your situation i would just try one from:
    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/

    I gave the wrong link. Sorry. (The above is for BitTorrent download).

    Correct for direct download via wget (or web browser) is

    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/


    Have a nice day :)

    Thomas

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  • From Felix Miata@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 21 19:10:01 2024
    James Freer composed on 2024-08-21 15:15 (UTC+0100):

    I realise 32 bit is going but i haven't the cash at
    present to consider a new PC.

    You may not need one. What CPU do you have?

    lscpu

    inxi -S

    Both of these will report CPU model, from which you can tell if indeed it only supports 32bit, or can upgrade to 64bit.

    If you have or can find online the manual for your PC, you may find its RAM capacity. If it supports more than 2GB, it's highly likely to support 64bit. How
    much RAM do you have in it now? You do need more than 2GB to expect decent DE performance. What GPU does it have? If it's not on a separate card on a PC that is
    limited to 2GB or less, you can expect dismal graphics performance.

    Even if you can't, used PCs that can are nearly everywhere available for cheap or
    free.
    --
    Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
    based on faith, not based on science.

    Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

    Felix Miata

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